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Audi A3 2008 2.0TDI BMN DSG Not starting no crank

zedko Sep 14, 2018

  1. zedko

    zedko New Member

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    hi guys just wondering if you can help me on this issue, i have a 2008 audi a3 sportback 2.0 TDI DSG. Seller stated non starter ecu/electrical fault (he just wanted to get rid of it) as soon as I got it i fiddled with it kept resetting the fault codes and it magically started and drove absolutely fine. Next morning its doing the same thing, when i turn the key there is no crank.
    So im just wondering whats the next steps, and what to check, i checked the starter motor it seemed ok and tested it and it works, before i send the ECU of for a test. Heres the vagcom scan
    Thanks

    Friday,14,September,2018,12:08:36:48797
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64)
    Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com


    VIN: WAUZZZ8P98A1-0--0 License Plate: A-08 T--
    Mileage: 80160km-49809mi Repair Order:



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    Chassis Type: 8P (1K0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 56 62 72 77

    VIN: WAUZZZ8P98A120580 Mileage: 80160km-49809miles

    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

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    Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-018-BMN.clb
    Part No SW: 03G 906 018 DN HW: 03G 906 018 DN
    Component: R4 2.0l PPD1.2 G 1247
    Revision: --H52--- Serial number: AUX7Z0GDFN409T
    Coding: 0000078
    Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
    VCID: 74E7A3CE1705B2E40C-8020

    1 Fault Found:
    005714 - Please check DTC Memory of Transmission Controller
    P1652 - 008 -
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01011000
    Fault Priority: 0
    Fault Frequency: 6
    Reset counter: 40
    Mileage: 80162 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2018.08.23
    Time: 01:15:34

    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 0 /min
    Torque: 0.0 Nm
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    0.00 %
    Voltage: 10.96 V
    Bin. Bits: 00000001
    Bin. Bits: 00000000

    Readiness: N/A

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    Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
    Part No SW: 02E 300 041 A HW: 02E 927 770 AD
    Component: GSG DSG 041 0821
    Revision: 04004010 Serial number: 00000412080306
    Coding: 0000020
    Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
    VCID: 102FCF5E03DDEEC488-8044

    1 Fault Found:
    01208 - Data Records in Control Unit Altered
    000 - -

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    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
    Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101
    Revision: 00H11001
    Coding: 0023170
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 73E5A0D2120BB5DC15-8026

    1 Fault Found:
    00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
    002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 AH HW: 8P0 820 043 AH
    Component: KlimavollautomatH19 0430
    Revision: 120844 Serial number: 8P0820043AH
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 72EBA5D66D11BCD41E-8026

    4 Faults Found:
    00796 - Fan for Interior Temp Sensor (V42)
    011 - Open Circuit
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01101011
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 61
    Reset counter: 61
    Mileage: 77341 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2018.02.14
    Time: 07:26:50

    Freeze Frame:
    Voltage: 13.10 V
    Temperature: 0.0°C

    00532 - Supply Voltage B+
    002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100010
    Fault Priority: 1
    Fault Frequency: 3
    Reset counter: 101
    Mileage: 80160 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2018.08.23
    Time: 02:52:06

    Freeze Frame:
    Voltage: 9.00 V

    03271 - Installation of Positioning Motor for Back Pressure Flap
    000 - - - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100000
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 101
    Mileage: 80160 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2018.08.23
    Time: 00:41:33

    Freeze Frame:
    ON

    01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
    008 - Implausible Signal
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01101000
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 62
    Mileage: 80162 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2018.08.23
    Time: 01:24:01

    Freeze Frame:


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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 8P0-907-279-30-H.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 K HW: 8P0 907 279 K
    Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2501
    Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000007989369
    Coding: E1881F01B01410004F1600001600000000085E175C010000000000000000
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 08192
    VCID: 45812E0A0C1F7B6C6B-8010

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P2 955 119 E Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
    Component: Wischer AU350 H01 0130
    Coding: 00062736
    Shop #: WSC 06314

    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557 B Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
    Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH13 0100
    Coding: 00150573
    Shop #: WSC 06314

    1 Fault Found:
    02389 - Release Signal Transmission; Position P/N
    008 - Implausible Signal
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01101000
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 62
    Mileage: 80162 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2018.08.23
    Time: 01:19:00

    Freeze Frame:
    ON
    Voltage: 11.80 V
    ON
    ON
    OFF
    OFF
    OFF


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    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8P0-959-655-94.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 L HW: 8P0 959 655 L
    Component: Airbag 9.41 H01 4210
    Revision: 91H01421 Serial number: 003CP0020NU9
    Coding: 0071612
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 4B9518322A7B8D1CBD-801E

    Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332DRB40663072AH

    Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342DRB406624EA7X

    Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 63528RB40337B1027

    Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 63628RB40341C36AK

    Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63747RB4032732189

    Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63847RB4032749BAU

    No fault code found.

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    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8P0-953-549-F.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 F HW: 8P0 953 549 F
    Component: J0527 H36 0070
    Coding: 0014142
    Shop #: WSC 00259 210 87519
    VCID: 41893A1A1837574C57-8014

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
    Component: E0221 H02 0030

    1 Fault Found:
    00883 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal S
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY8.clb
    Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 K HW: 8P0 920 981 K
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H22 0660
    Revision: D0H22003 Serial number: 224DG003104423
    Coding: 0000428
    Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
    VCID: 408F3F1E133D5E4458-8014

    No fault code found.

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    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L HW: 1K0 907 951
    Component: J533__Gateway H15 0180
    Revision: H15 Serial number: 1400K07B290AB7
    Coding: ED807F061006022103
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 306F6FDEA39DCEC4A8-8064

    No fault code found.

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    Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
    Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 K HW: 8P0 920 981 K
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H22 0660
    Revision: D0H22003 Serial number: AUX7Z0GDFN409T
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 408F3F1E133D5E4458-8014

    No fault code found.

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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN3.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 K HW: 8P0 959 801 K
    Component: Tuer-SG H03 0050
    Coding: 0000688
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 43853012022B455C45-8016

    No fault code found.

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    Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
    Part No: 1K2 909 144 M
    Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.079 H08 1901
    Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
    VCID: 366359C641F9E0F4F2-8062

    1 Fault Found:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
    000 - -

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    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 433 J
    Component: KSG H11 0080
    Coding: 1980202002186D0985054C9FC637
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 43853012022B455C45-8016

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
    Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
    Component: Neigungssensor 005 0003

    Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8P0 951 177
    Component: Innenraumueberw.H04 0020

    1 Fault Found:
    00849 - S-contact at Ignition/Starter Switch (D)
    008 - Implausible Signal

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    Address 47: Sound System Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P4 035 382 D HW: 8P4 035 382 D
    Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH06 0180
    Revision: 00005 Serial number: 30674752796675
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 35615ECA5CFFEBECFB-8060

    No fault code found.

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    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
    Part No SW: 8P0 959 802 K HW: 8P0 959 802 K
    Component: Tuer-SG H03 0050
    Coding: 0000688
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 4487330E072542647C-8010

    No fault code found.

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    Address 56: Radio Labels: 8J0-035-1xx-56.clb
    Part No SW: 8P0 035 186 P HW: 8P0 035 186 P
    Component: R Concert2+ H01 0270
    Revision: 00H01000 Serial number: AUZ1Z3G6860102
    Coding: 0730211
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 3F8D3CE26EC321BC21-806A

    No fault code found.

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    Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 8P4-959-801.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P4 959 801 E HW: 8P4 959 801 E
    Component: Tuer-SG H04 0040
    Coding: 0000144
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
    VCID: 41893A1A1837574C57-8014

    No fault code found.

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    Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 8P4-959-802.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P4 959 802 E HW: 8P4 959 802 E
    Component: Tuer-SG H04 0040
    Coding: 0000144
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
    VCID: 428B35161D314C544E-8016

    No fault code found.

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    Address 77: Telephone Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 862 335 Q HW: 8P0 862 335 Q
    Component: FSE_255x BT H26 0350
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000005287703
    Coding: 0001222
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 4487330E072542647C-8010

    No fault code found.

    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:59)--------------------------
     
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  3. deanshaw24

    deanshaw24 Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    It looks like mayby the car thinks it’s not in park or neutral so won’t start?
     
  4. zedko

    zedko New Member

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    I’m not sure I’ve tried rocking the shifter back and forth and tried to crank but I get nothing. Supprising it didn’t start after yesterday, yesterday when it did start it turned on and of normally :/ frustrated
     
  5. RAF_S7

    RAF_S7 Well-Known Member Team V8 Gold Supporter Team Sepang Audi S7 A7 Owner Group Black Edition

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    How’s the battery voltage?

    If it’s been standing for a while, the battery may be shot. And with such a long list of malfunction codes, that’s the first place I would start. :racer:
     
  6. zedko

    zedko New Member

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    Yeah I'll have a go with a new battery see how I get on, but whats confusing me is that even with my A5 connected to jump start it still does the same thing.
     
  7. aqibi2000

    aqibi2000 Active Member

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    Don't waste money on battery if the above is true.

    Investigate starter solenoid etc etc etc (possibly get someone to sit in car crank Key while you use a cable from battery positive to starter positive terminal)
     
  8. zedko

    zedko New Member

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    Hi thanks for the replies, I tested the battery with a multi meter and it’s fine also I’d assume even with jump start it should start but to no avail.
    I did take the starter of and put a battery on it it worked fine. I’m thinking of sending the ECU of for a testing. Will updated on what happens. Is it common for the ECU to go?
     
  9. aqibi2000

    aqibi2000 Active Member

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    Do the basics first don't send ECU anywhere yet

    Ignition Not Working then check Starter Solenoid all can be conducted with multimeter and about 10 min
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2018

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