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Apr/revo stage 2 dyno runs

73pop Feb 13, 2016

  1. 73pop

    73pop Well-Known Member Team Riviera Audi S3 quattro S tronic

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    Should have checked that title before I pressed create
    will add my print out here and @james123 will add his at some point
    Both cars have same mods on awesome gti rollers
    Mods are turbo back milltek,vwr intake
    Mine is Apr stage 2. Not quite the 400bhp they said it could make but drives well so am happy!
     

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  3. James 123

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    My dyno today, think figures quoting upto 401bhp from revo seem to be a fair way away from where I'm at. My dyno hasn't even reached the minimum 370 revo claim to expect as a minimum from stage 2 with the relivant mods. As 73pops said its a pleasure to drive my car and I love it, but can't help but feel like I'm 20-25 short of where I was led to believe I'd be. I seriously think I need an rs3!
     
  5. Rob2k68

    Rob2k68 Well-Known Member VCDS Map User MQB Platform

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    Thanks both for posting. Did you have any runs at stage 1 or skip straight to stage 2 ?

    I'm starting to think that apart from the slightly improved pickup from the down pipe that I'm going to stick at stage 1 with an intake (Revo's new release if I can get one).
     
  6. 73pop

    73pop Well-Known Member Team Riviera Audi S3 quattro S tronic

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    Stage 1
     

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  7. aussieR

    aussieR Active Member

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    Thanks for posting guys. Interesting to see both similar HP but APR significantly more torue. It's yet another example of how stage 2 min gains over stage 1.

    I would be very disappointed going stage 2 with IC if chasing the numbers. I'm going stage 2 shortly fully aware of this and already have intake for induction sound and DP will no doubt add nicer exhaust note. To me having nice induction sound and better exhaust note worth cost for the improved enjoyment but numbers wise and cost per hp not worth it.
     
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  8. Dandanfings

    Dandanfings Well-Known Member Bronze Supporter Audi S3

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    Might be a stingy dyno?
    Stage 1 should make 370ish by itself.
     
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  9. 73pop

    73pop Well-Known Member Team Riviera Audi S3 quattro S tronic

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    Who knows me and James said we will try and find another rolling road in the northwest and compare again. Thought awesome gti's rollers would be prity good. Anyone have any suggestions??
     
  10. Dandanfings

    Dandanfings Well-Known Member Bronze Supporter Audi S3

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    oh that was awesomes dyno?
    yeah its pretty much bang on these days and tends to read slightly lower than others.
    That is a insane amount of torque you have there... i am jealous as mine made only 400ftlb on their dyno last time!
     
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  13. 73pop

    73pop Well-Known Member Team Riviera Audi S3 quattro S tronic

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    Yes it was awesomes dyno.

    Will give them a ring @xpoweruk thanks
     
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  14. James 123

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    Blue must just image.jpeg be a quicker colour
     
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  15. DAZMC

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    image.jpeg Apr Ecu stage 1 map
    Apr gearbox map
    Apr intake
    Forge intake hose
    Peron intercooler

    Max bhp 401.5 Max torque 425 was on Ecotunes dyno in Glasgow

    New 90mm (3.5") down pipe coming soon then stage 2 Ecu map
     
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  16. 73pop

    73pop Well-Known Member Team Riviera Audi S3 quattro S tronic

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    Think mine needs doing again. On the way to santapod yours had the edge on mine I thought when we left to m6 toll
     
  17. Ric 2001

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    73pop, Need to see and hear yours.
     
  18. Shorty_rs

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    Rick @ Unicorn Deveopments in Stockport has a good rolling road and knows how to use it too, he's just had a new cooling system fitted and it's kept at a good temp.

    He had a rolling road day yesterday actually, should of came down. He will be happy to run both your cars, will be back to back too.

    Let me know if you go down, id be keen to see how they are compared to mine.
     
  19. 73pop

    73pop Well-Known Member Team Riviera Audi S3 quattro S tronic

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    will give him a call see when he can do it will let you know. dose he have a 4wd roller

    see it at unicorn ric
     
  20. 73pop

    73pop Well-Known Member Team Riviera Audi S3 quattro S tronic

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    i don't think that torque reading is right going to go on awesomes rollers again see what it shows
     
  21. Shorty_rs

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    2wd for now, upgrading to 4wd soon.

    These are happy running in front wheel drive anyway so not an issue.
     
  22. Chris5

    Chris5 Active Member Team Brill Red Audi S3

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    Been told APR remap doesn't flag a TD1 has anyone else heard of this? Was a worker in Audi who is now on APR stage 2
     
  23. Dandanfings

    Dandanfings Well-Known Member Bronze Supporter Audi S3

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    They all run the risk of TD1.
    You tune you take the risks involved...
     
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  24. 73pop

    73pop Well-Known Member Team Riviera Audi S3 quattro S tronic

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    Both cars done today on unicorns rollers
    No where near the claims they make.
    James has a graph with both cars overlapping. They are much a much muchness really James will probably upload it later. But here's mine
     

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  25. Rob2k68

    Rob2k68 Well-Known Member VCDS Map User MQB Platform

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    Thanks for sharing - very interesting !!!

    What fuel are you running and is the map specific to that RON ?
     
  26. 73pop

    73pop Well-Known Member Team Riviera Audi S3 quattro S tronic

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    I put Tesco 99 yesterday. Last time was on shell
    Vpower and made more bhp
     
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  27. Rob2k68

    Rob2k68 Well-Known Member VCDS Map User MQB Platform

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    I'm always running Tesco Momentum mainly as it's also most convenient for me.

    When I had my map put on they asked what fuel I was using so it has the map profile for high octane fuel and DSG which I understand to be slightly higher torque output too.
     
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    Had mine rolled again to see if there was any difference to last weeks on awesome's rollers and results came out pretty much the same so that's definitely where my cars at, so is good to have confirmed it. Met Rick from unicorn tuning and if I hadn't already had my mapping done by revo I'd definitely of let Rick custom a map for my car, guy seems extremely knowledgeable.
     
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  31. 73pop

    73pop Well-Known Member Team Riviera Audi S3 quattro S tronic

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    Ric 2001 Member

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    Was good to get a ride along in 2 identical modded cars but with different maps on each car. Good to meet you guys. Think I might try unicorns map.
     
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  34. DAZMC

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    have you got the low out put file or high out put file ?
     
  35. 73pop

    73pop Well-Known Member Team Riviera Audi S3 quattro S tronic

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    i asked when it was being done they said it was high output
     
  36. Dandanfings

    Dandanfings Well-Known Member Bronze Supporter Audi S3

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    wow i would of sworn that was the same car on a different run!
    So APR and REVO make just under 360bhp stage 2?
     
  37. 73pop

    73pop Well-Known Member Team Riviera Audi S3 quattro S tronic

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    Prity much same same revo being a little higher
     
  38. xpoweruk

    xpoweruk TTTS 8J Smile Machine Team Meteor quattro Audi TTS

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    So both are as touch under the quoted figures by APR/Revo
     
  39. 73pop

    73pop Well-Known Member Team Riviera Audi S3 quattro S tronic

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    13bhp under on that dyno
     
  40. xpoweruk

    xpoweruk TTTS 8J Smile Machine Team Meteor quattro Audi TTS

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    Do you have DSG tune too ?
     
  41. 73pop

    73pop Well-Known Member Team Riviera Audi S3 quattro S tronic

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    No just the stage 2 on the fence on the dsg tune.
     
  42. xpoweruk

    xpoweruk TTTS 8J Smile Machine Team Meteor quattro Audi TTS

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    I take it that you'll rev higher with the Stronic TCU mapped,should get more power too as the revs are higher
     
  43. 73pop

    73pop Well-Known Member Team Riviera Audi S3 quattro S tronic

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    Ye I suppose but it dose not say you need that on Apr website to make the figures
     
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