Anyone ordered a new S3 yet?

T-1000

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Yawn.........please put me on your ignore list.
I can’t take any more.


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NevMan

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I think this started because you posted. '8V FL interior is by far the best in an A3.'
I think most agree that moving a bit of alcantara on the steering wheel, slight tweak to air vents and optional VC hardly makes it 'better' than the PFL and debatable whether such are 'improvements' worthy of note.

Whatever the mechanical changes/improvements are noted and the revised exterior styling and dynamic lights are a matter of taste. Given the choice I would have one of each. The PFL for it's more discrete exterior styling and the FL for it's lighter engine and better handling. As for the interiors they are essentially identical (apart from VC) and way nicer than the 8Y.

Think EVERYONE agrees the 8Y is not as nice as 8V, FL or PFL. Not just Audi, many curing corners with cheaper plastics, omitting things previously standard. A thoroughly boring time ahead, so used sales likely to increase even more and some holding on to their cars longer...maybe
 

RGBARGEE

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Think EVERYONE agrees the 8Y is not as nice as 8V, FL or PFL. Not just Audi, many curing corners with cheaper plastics, omitting things previously standard. A thoroughly boring time ahead, so used sales likely to increase even more and some holding on to their cars longer...maybe
Used prices of fairly new premium cars seems to be holding up well. In part this is due to shortage of supplies of new models and higher prices due to the devaluation of the U.K. pound.
 

jassyo06

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So the only notable difference inside a FL and PFL is the optional VC.. still don’t buy it!!
My 2015 S3 Sportback was the worst handling car l have owned to date especially at speed....it bounced about badly at high speed which made it very unsettling to drive a car with 300 bhp shouldnt feel like that,the face lift car sounds far better than the PFL car,FL S3 had more options available to choose from over the FL....in fact the 8y has not improved on the FL option list....it's remain as it is...used car prices remain high due to supply and demand and used cars are not the only used product to keep their value....all of my high end components in my home cinema system their values have also remained very high as you just cant get them at the moment....because they are from Japanese/British companies but assembled in good old Covid Ground Zero..................Korean electronics companies have had a great year Samsung/LG................because most of their products are made and assembled in house
 

Jcbmally

Started with nothing & still have most of it left.
Used prices of fairly new premium cars seems to be holding up well. In part this is due to shortage of supplies of new models and higher prices due to the devaluation of the U.K. pound.
I was also told it was due to limited stock as auctions are closed.
 

NevMan

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Used prices of fairly new premium cars seems to be holding up well. In part this is due to shortage of supplies of new models and higher prices due to the devaluation of the U.K. pound.

Yes, agree they do. In fairness Audi’s generally one of the top as far as retaining value, especially S and RS as we all know
 

jassyo06

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All in all the the farcical situation thats put the world in the place it faces right now has not slowed down the overall sales of cars,targets have been hit and then some ....my sons group of companies are proof of this.....my sons quarterly bonus has never been as good ....you could jump to a few conclusions why this has happened....lockdown,no expensive foreign hols low apr.... etc etc...
 

jassyo06

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Yes, agree they do. In fairness Audi’s generally one of the top as far as retaining value, especially S and RS as we all know
I think the 8Y S3/RS3 will put a stop to that ...the sportback is dreadful looking,thing is the cost cutting in build materials cant be hidden not even with fancy stitching or adding microfibre here and there ....you get the same cheap **** no matter if its a Tecknik model or RS3 Virsprung
 

NevMan

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All in all the the farcical situation thats put the world in the place it faces right now has not slowed down the overall sales of cars,targets have been hit and then some ....my sons group of companies are proof of this.....my sons quarterly bonus has never been as good ....you could jump to a few conclusions why this has happened....lockdown,no expensive foreign hols low apr.... etc etc...

Yes, “some” businesses are certainly booming. Chatting to a local fencing business who I have used a lot over the last few years what with sheds, gates etc, they are booked up past January.

Think you are right, no expensive hols, savings earning sod all in bank so people are getting stuff done to houses, buying “new” cars etc. My BMW/Mini dealership are also selling plenty

Any news on the TTRS?
 

jassyo06

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Yes, “some” businesses are certainly booming. Chatting to a local fencing business who I have used a lot over the last few years what with sheds, gates etc, they are booked up past January.

Think you are right, no expensive hols, savings earning sod all in bank so people are getting stuff done to houses, buying “new” cars etc. My BMW/Mini dealership are also selling plenty

Any news on the TTRS?

TTS ....lol yeah l was given a finance quote it was diable indeed but Audis 6-4% Apr is sticking in my throat at the moment so i'll hold off till the turn of the year mate
 

NevMan

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TTS ....lol yeah l was given a finance quote it was diable indeed but Audis 6-4% Apr is sticking in my throat at the moment so i'll hold off till the turn of the year mate

Wow, that is high!!
 

RGBARGEE

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All in all the the farcical situation thats put the world in the place it faces right now has not slowed down the overall sales of cars,targets have been hit and then some ....my sons group of companies are proof of this.....my sons quarterly bonus has never been as good ....you could jump to a few conclusions why this has happened....lockdown,no expensive foreign hols low apr.... etc etc...
I agree it’s farcical we have a duplicitous Government so removed from reality on Brexit and protecting employment and citizens from COVID-19. But yes those with money, probably like most on here are it seems doing ok. However we need to think of the many who aren’t so fortunate.
 

jassyo06

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Wow, that is high!!

Just to add he woul'dnt give me a copy of the quote he got from A dealer....just the the figures so no room for debate...£8k deposit £529 a month over 48 months....lot for a S model if he said £489 l would have gone for it...........lol
 

jassyo06

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Wow, that is high!!

Just to add he woul'dnt give me a copy of the quote he got from A dealer....just the the figures so no room for debate...£8k deposit £529 a month over 48 months....lot for a TTS ...........lol
 

K4RL

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Just to add he woul'dnt give me a copy of the quote he got from A dealer....just the the figures so no room for debate...£8k deposit £529 a month over 48 months....lot for a TTS ...........lol
Wow that’s a lot at £33k, I bought mine at 11 months old for that & recent p/x given at £21k so lost under £12k in 4 years. :racer:
 

NevMan

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Just to add he woul'dnt give me a copy of the quote he got from A dealer....just the the figures so no room for debate...£8k deposit £529 a month over 48 months....lot for a S model if he said £489 l would have gone for it...........lol

So I assume going direct to dealer isn’t yielding a beetle result...mad!
 

jassyo06

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So I assume going direct to dealer isn’t yielding a beetle result...mad!

Scottish Dealers are a joke mate money grabbing barstewards
 

RGBARGEE

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Just to add he woul'dnt give me a copy of the quote he got from A dealer....just the the figures so no room for debate...£8k deposit £529 a month over 48 months....lot for a TTS ...........lol
What? I ran a B9 RS4 FROM Mar 2018 to September 19 for about £300 a month!!!
 

jassyo06

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Wow that’s a lot at £33k, I bought mine at 11 months old for that & recent p/x given at £21k so lost under £12k in 4 years. :racer:

@K4RL outstanding balance after discount plus deposit is £38,500 .....GFV is £21k after 4 years which is dreadful for a £57k car
 

RGBARGEE

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@K4RL outstanding balance after discount plus deposit is £38,500 .....GFV is £21k after 4 years which is dreadful for a £57k car
Dealers are being very pessimistic with the economic situation currently. Brexiteer Bolloxcks, COVID-19 poor Government management and US election. Politics and economics are inextricably linked.
 

K4RL

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@K4RL outstanding balance after discount plus deposit is £38,500 .....GFV is £21k after 4 years which is dreadful for a £57k car

My TTS was £47k new so first owner lost more than £13k in 11 months so me losing a similar amount in the next 4 years seems good to me. I’m old school so haven’t caught up with leasing or pcp yet :wink:
Still undecided on the S3, dealers seems keen though 2 calls already this week.
 

RGBARGEE

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My TTS was £47k new so first owner lost more than £13k in 11 months so me losing a similar amount in the next 4 years seems good to me. I’m old school so haven’t caught up with leasing or ppc yet :wink:
Still undecided on the S3, dealers seems keen though 2 calls already this week.
I’m with you! Like Insurance, loans etc I think loads of people are out to make a profit at our expense. I appreciate that I’m fortunate to be able to finance myself but with low interest rates PCP seems bonkers. If I didn’t have £50k I would buy a £5k 7 year old Audi with a warranty and run that.
 

NevMan

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Interest rates are low at present so the PCP deals are high and a joke really, however you have to bear in mind that if you are renewing a pcp due in the next 6 months the dealer and Audi UK contributions can be quite good and before the end of september you also got the first 3 months payments made, so if you are looking at a personal loan the rate may be cheaper but you could be looking at borrowing £3,000+ more to cover these differences

Need to do some homework - I know you can sign up for PCP and then pay it off within 14 days but you'd lose the 3 months payments and that's a lot of credit you are applying for in a very short time which can have an impact on the rates.
 

RGBARGEE

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Interest rates are low at present so the PCP deals are high and a joke really, however you have to bear in mind that if you are renewing a pcp due in the next 6 months the dealer and Audi UK contributions can be quite good and before the end of september you also got the first 3 months payments made, so if you are looking at a personal loan the rate may be cheaper but you could be looking at borrowing £3,000+ more to cover these differences

Need to do some homework - I know you can sign up for PCP and then pay it off within 14 days but you'd lose the 3 months payments and that's a lot of credit you are applying for in a very short time which can have an impact on the rates.
Absolutely right! The 3 month payment could be worth a lot of money but may still be worth doing the sums and paying off at the end with cheaper financing. It’s stopped now I think. Definitely a calculation for a knowledgeable accountant or enthusiast!
 
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Isn't the 1st 3 months a delayed payment only, you still pay the money and 3 extra months interest at the end?
 
Isn't the 1st 3 months a delayed payment only, you still pay the money and 3 extra months interest at the end?

It is now but if you'd ordered before the end of September for delivery before the end of the year then they paid the first 3 months - The best thing to do was put that amount in as an additional deposit (assuming you have that money) and pay yourself back over 3 months which means you are obviously borrowing less and reducing your monthly payment

Now it is a delay and added onto the end if you want to (payment holiday) but you get charged interest from day 1 with that option I do believe
 

NevMan

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Only PCP deals I have ever gone with have been upfront discount and/or contribution. That then gives option to clear within the 14 days still benefitting.

The Audi 3 months payments and then high APR never did sound attractive at least to me
 

jassyo06

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Audi Finance left a voicemail on my mobile today..... why l have not a clue??? When l inquired about the TTS in June the dealer said he would give me the Audi finance loyalty bonus....lol even with this included l was £3500 better selling the car myself
 

jassyo06

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Only PCP deals I have ever gone with have been upfront discount and/or contribution. That then gives option to clear within the 14 days still benefitting.

The Audi 3 months payments and then high APR never did sound attractive at least to me

The APR on my car is 4~5% plus l still got £5700 discount that was a great deal 3 years ago....one year after the facelift was introduced My previous 2015 S3 i got £4k discount but the APR was 6~5% lesson learnt
 

RGBARGEE

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The APR on my car is 4~5% plus l still got £5700 discount that was a great deal 3 years ago....one year after the facelift was introduced My previous 2015 S3 i got £4k discount but the APR was 6~5% lesson learnt
In April 2018 I got circa 12% on a 43k spec S3 and £2500 from Audi for a PCP ( I cancelled) Think I paid £35k and sold for £32k 2 years on. There are deals to be done but it takes effort!
 

jassyo06

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My TTS was £47k new so first owner lost more than £13k in 11 months so me losing a similar amount in the next 4 years seems good to me. I’m old school so haven’t caught up with leasing or pcp yet :wink:
Still undecided on the S3, dealers seems keen though 2 calls already this week.


Going by the £21k settlement figure after 47 months the TTS Vorsprung does'nt hold it's value well at all, car has devalued £36k/£9k per year 32K miles unless the GFV is £21k no matter what TTS model you choose
 

RGBARGEE

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Going by the £21k settlement figure after 47 months the TTS Vorsprung does'nt hold it's value well at all, car has devalued £36k/£9k per year 32K miles unless the GFV is £21k no matter what TTS model you choose

Pessimistic Finance companies are covering themselves fearing a U.K. depression due to the Pandemic, Brexit and lack of confidence. What we need is a Government that inspires confidence and the situation will change.


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NevMan

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Pessimistic Finance companies are covering themselves fearing a U.K. depression due to the Pandemic, Brexit and lack of confidence. What we need is a Government that inspires confidence and the situation will change.


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Mate, are you ever going to stop with your brexit and general politely moans, boring?! Maybe move to France, if you aren’t there already
 

T-1000

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Mate, are you ever going to stop with your brexit and general politely moans, boring?! Maybe move to France, if you aren’t there already

It’s boring and has no place on a car forum.
Every time increased car costs are mentioned it’s the same old guff.

The same thing when anyone mentions the FL A3, same old guff is spouted.
The same thing when anyone mentions Supersport seats or sports exhaust, or someone (namely Snake Plisskin) says how much he likes his new A45s MB, he gets basically told all Mercs are rubbish!


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NevMan

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It’s boring and has no place on a car forum.
Every time increased car costs are mentioned it’s the same old guff.

The same thing when anyone mentions the FL A3, same old guff is spouted.
The same thing when anyone mentions Supersport seats or sports exhaust, or someone (namely Snake Plisskin) says how much he likes his new A45s MB, he gets basically told all Mercs are rubbish!


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Spot on @T-1000. I obv. Meant “political” and not politely!
 

RGBARGEE

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Pessimistic Finance companies are covering themselves fearing a U.K. depression due to the Pandemic, Brexit and lack of confidence. What we need is a Government that inspires confidence and the situation will change.


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if anyone is any doubt about my earlier post check it out with an expert. I tend to reply on experts yet ha
Another A3 review which I thought was entertaining...:icon thumright:
That’s looks ok, darker colour suits and those EU number plates really look fantastic.
 

RGBARGEE

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Mate, are you ever going to stop with your brexit and general politely moans, boring?! Maybe move to France, if you aren’t there already
I have property in France and the U.K. already thanks.
 
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