A3/S3 delivery lead time?

[tomascott]

What dealership did you use I thought decent discounts from dealerships were a thing of the past ?

So there is a £3K finance contribution available to anyone at the moment and this adds £1750: https://www.jardinemotors.co.uk/aud...=2&incentive[]=473&per_page=all&pageId=272756 if you had a finance agreement that was open within the last 12 months.

So currently looking like 20 weeks - but that may move in by a couple of weeks once they update and confirm the order in the system. I think the chip shortage situation has improved and maybe there has been less demand generally more recently. This was all caveated though that because its a Vorsprung order, it needs more chips so may take longer.

 

[Mr Freeze]

So there is a £3K finance contribution available to anyone at the moment and this adds £1750: https://www.jardinemotors.co.uk/audi/new-car-offers/search/?pageId=272756&make[]=164&model[164][]=121&type[]=2&incentive[]=473&per_page=all&pageId=272756 if you had a finance agreement that was open within the last 12 months.

So currently looking like 20 weeks - but that may move in by a couple of weeks once they update and confirm the order in the system. I think the chip shortage situation has improved and maybe there has been less demand generally more recently. This was all caveated though that because its a Vorsprung order, it needs more chips so may take longer.

That is pretty decent did you try drive the deal they do good deals

 

[tomascott]

That is pretty decent did you try drive the deal they do good deals

Yeah I did have a look and it was very similar actually - not enough to make me switch though. I'm looking forward to pickup day already, I know it will be a way off yet though!

 

[Moots]

What dealership did you use I thought decent discounts from dealerships were a thing of the past ?

I was speaking to my dealership recently, what they've done is increase the APR but added an Audi contribution to offset it. They've also increased the guaranteed future value of the vehicle, I didn't take them up on the offer of restructuring my deal as I think my APR is 6.8%, they're now at 10.8% if I remember rightly, it would also have meant the GFV on the car would go from £22k to about £25k.

 

[Mr Freeze]

I was speaking to my dealership recently, what they've done is increase the APR but added an Audi contribution to offset it. They've also increased the guaranteed future value of the vehicle, I didn't take them up on the offer of restructuring my deal as I think my APR is 6.8%, they're now at 10.8% if I remember rightly, it would also have meant the GFV on the car would go from £22k to about £25k.

The APR's are crazy now I bought my current S3 new in march 2019 and the APR was 4.8% its a massive jump in the space of 4 years .

 

[Moots]

Collected mine today, Love it! Will post some pics later

Having the same issue I had with the initial login on the MMI though enter details "You cannot be logged in at this time" bit annoying but I'll give it a day or so as I think last time it took a few days to get logged in as well.

 

[bobcat12]

Collected mine today, Love it! Will post some pics later

Having the same issue I had with the initial login on the MMI though enter details "You cannot be logged in at this time" bit annoying but I'll give it a day or so as I think last time it took a few days to get logged in as well.

Mine did this for around 3 days, then all of a sudden the app picked up my car as updated (with an error). Soon as I seen this went into the car and logged in no problem, been fine ever since.

 

[monkeyhanger]

The APR's are crazy now I bought my current S3 new in march 2019 and the APR was 4.8% its a massive jump in the space of 4 years .

Not as bad as the RRP increase in a tin of Heinz Tomato soup.

 

[Jason1987]

Not as bad as the RRP increase in a tin of Heinz Tomato soup.

Why has pcp apr shot up so much but nornal Loans are still low at about 5%?

 

[monkeyhanger]

Why has pcp apr shot up so much but nornal Loans are still low at about 5%?

A bit of money manipulation with the PCPs -"lets give you £3k deposit contribution and hope you don't notice the now huge APR%".
With the higher GFV you're also paying less capital off and more interest. Haven't done the sums but I bet overall cost to consumers taking out a PCP is hasn't really changed much either way. Also, bank loans have jumped from 3% to 5 or 6% (doubled), Audi finance has gone from about 5% to 10% (doubled).

 

[Jason1987]

A bit of money manipulation with the PCPs -"lets give you £3k deposit contribution and hope you don't notice the now huge APR%".
With the higher GFV you're also paying less capital off and more interest. Haven't done the sums but I bet overall cost to consumers taking out a PCP is hasn't really changed much either way. Also, bank loans have jumped from 3% to 5 or 6% (doubled), Audi finance has gone from about 5% to 10% (doubled).

Yeah I’d use my banks pcp at 7.4 %. Annoying as I can get loan for the whole car for 5.0%, i thought pcp rates used to be lower than loans.

 

[Moots]

Mine did this for around 3 days, then all of a sudden the app picked up my car as updated (with an error). Soon as I seen this went into the car and logged in no problem, been fine ever since.

The guy at the dealership said for some reason it takes a while for A3/A1's to register, and seemed to think it would be sorted in a couple of days. Odd, but not the end of the world!

 

[discosteve]

Collected mine today, Love it! Will post some pics later

Having the same issue I had with the initial login on the MMI though enter details "You cannot be logged in at this time" bit annoying but I'll give it a day or so as I think last time it took a few days to get logged in as well.

Same here, kept saying it had a technical error? Tried 4 or 5 more times and just left it, checked the audi app later and it had sorted itself out

 

[Moots]

Same here, kept saying it had a technical error? Tried 4 or 5 more times and just left it, checked the audi app later and it had sorted itself out

It doesn't look like any of the licenses are activated, it just says demo license until 08 2024. If it's not sorted by Monday i'll get on to them. Made sure i had full LTE signal too/changed password etc.

 

[dty]

What dealership did you use I thought decent discounts from dealerships were a thing of the past ?

Depends on your luck, I guess. I got almost 10% off an S3 Vorsprung with metallic paint and red brakes when I ordered in January 22.

 

[Moots]

Called Audi, revoked license in the app and reset everything then reactivated it all.

Now working fine

 

[monkeyhanger]

That is pretty decent did you try drive the deal they do good deals

I had my eye on an "in stock" Turbo Blue S3 early this week at Jardine Tamworth. They were not budging on the list price. I'm not a previous customer, but these "exclusive offers" are rarely that exclusive when there are targets to meet. I asked them to get close to the DTD price and they wouldn't give me a straight answer over 2 days and sold it in the meantime. Managed to get £1400 over and above the £3k deposit contribution (£1000 of which comes from the dealership), so £2400 from the dealership and £2000 from VWFS.

10.3% effective discount on an "in stock" (waiting at Emden for a ship) S3 Sportback, Mythos Black, Red Calipers, 19" Trapezoid wheels, Comfort and Sound pack and HBA. Expecting to pick it up in 2-3 weeks.

 

[vatdim]

Exactly the same as my experience 14 months ago. Multiple dealers just didn't seem to give a damn. No calls back no interest. I think with the PCP and HP models around there's not the same pressure to sell cars as there used to be because there's always an easy sell coming up.

Weird that even in the pandemic they were reluctant to contact you. With no call back for more than a week, I put in a second request. Have decided to contact another dealer a hundred miles away, if there is still no interest. Rather lame start of the Audi experience for me and I sincerely hope it's just a single stroke of bad luck rather than the standard modus operandi.

 

[monkeyhanger]

Weird that even in the pandemic they were reluctant to contact you. With no call back for more than a week, I put in a second request. Have decided to contact another dealer a hundred miles away, if there is still no interest. Rather lame start of the Audi experience for me and I sincerely hope it's just a single stroke of bad luck rather than the standard modus operandi.

How soon do you want to change? If you're ready to go. It's always worth checking out the "in stock" listing per model on the Audi.co.uk website. There's an incoming price rise early next month, so get sorted before that kicks in. Seems £1000-1500 above the £3k deposit contribution is doable. Had a few dealers willing to offer £1000 over, and the one I'm using is £1400 over deposit contribution. Seemed a quick and easy acceptance too, I should have tried harder!

Thee are 6 "in stock" S3 Sportbacks on the Audi site right now. One in York, one in Wakefield, one in Grimsby (that one is mine, they haven't removed it yet) and 3 in Belfast. The Belfast trio are built and in Emden. They offered £1k over deposit, but buying from NI to GB is a nightmare.

 

[Jason1987]

How soon do you want to change? If you're ready to go. It's always worth checking out the "in stock" listing per model on the Audi.co.uk website. There's an incoming price rise early next month, so get sorted before that kicks in. Seems £1000-1500 above the £3k deposit contribution is doable. Had a few dealers willing to offer £1000 over, and the one I'm using is £1400 over deposit contribution. Seemed a quick and easy acceptance too, I should have tried harder!

Thee are 6 "in stock" S3 Sportbacks on the Audi site right now. One in York, one in Wakefield, one in Grimsby (that one is mine, they haven't removed it yet) and 3 in Belfast. The Belfast trio are built and in Emden. They offered £1k over deposit, but buying from NI to GB is a nightmare.

Not another price rise? How much this time?

 

[monkeyhanger]

Not another price rise? How much this time?

Not sure about the exact amount, there's a sales and Lease guy on the Golf GTI forum that advises of rises, and he's said all VAG models are going up on 4th April.. he didn't specify for Audis. but Golfs going up by just under a grand. Would expect similar for A3/S3 variants. He's never been wrong yet and I even think the Drivethedeal website says about the rises too.

 

[Zoomer]

Weird that even in the pandemic they were reluctant to contact you. With no call back for more than a week, I put in a second request. Have decided to contact another dealer a hundred miles away, if there is still no interest. Rather lame start of the Audi experience for me and I sincerely hope it's just a single stroke of bad luck rather than the standard modus operandi.

have you tried Crewe audi , always called me back when I contacted them

 

[Jason1987]

They should save the price rise for the facelift surely?

 

[monkeyhanger]

They should save the price rise for the facelift surely?

I have known VAG do 2 rises a year in plenty of years. If they think the market will bear it. they put their prices up. In the last 7 years, the Golf R has risen in price 33%, VAG aren't shy in putting up prices.

 

[Mr Freeze]

The price hikes are getting out of hand

 

[Jason1987]

I have known VAG do 2 rises a year in plenty of years. If they think the market will bear it. they put their prices up. In the last 7 years, the Golf R has risen in price 33%, VAG aren't shy in putting up prices.

slightly off topic but does the rotr price include the luxury tax or just the standard £165? I get an s3 at £42900 rotr but not sure if their website knows to include the extra tax on?

 

[vatdim]

How soon do you want to change? If you're ready to go. It's always worth checking out the "in stock" listing per model on the Audi.co.uk website. There's an incoming price rise early next month, so get sorted before that kicks in. Seems £1000-1500 above the £3k deposit contribution is doable. Had a few dealers willing to offer £1000 over, and the one I'm using is £1400 over deposit contribution. Seemed a quick and easy acceptance too, I should have tried harder!

Thee are 6 "in stock" S3 Sportbacks on the Audi site right now. One in York, one in Wakefield, one in Grimsby (that one is mine, they haven't removed it yet) and 3 in Belfast. The Belfast trio are built and in Emden. They offered £1k over deposit, but buying from NI to GB is a nightmare.

I'm looking for a sedan and would really like to spec it myself. Thanks for the heads-up on the pricing. Even if production might take longer than usual, there are no delays with the price hikes, it seems.

 

[monkeyhanger]

slightly off topic but does the rotr price include the luxury tax or just the standard £165? I get an s3 at £42900 rotr but not sure if their website knows to include the extra tax on?

ROTR price includes the first year's tax (which is about £945 +£55 first registration fee). For the next 5 years thereafter (Years 2 - 6), you will pay standard VED and the "Luxury" add on. Currently, the only S3 that ducks under the Luxury VED threshold is the absolutely bog standard in Ibis White and no extras (maybe one very cheap extra like HBA or red calipers). Whenthe price rise comes in, even bog standard will be over the threshold. Also, DVLA calculate RRP for tax purposes at point of delivery, not point of ordering- so if you order a £39k RRP car and before delivery the RRP goes up to £40.5k, even though you're paying based on the £39k prevailing when you placed the order, you will pay the Luxury VED.

 

[monkeyhanger]

I'm looking for a sedan and would really like to spec it myself. Thanks for the heads-up on the pricing. Even if production might take longer than usual, there are no delays with the price hikes, it seems.

If you get your order in before the price rise, you will lock in the current prices, just don't leave it to the day before the price rise as the price lock in is set the day the factory accepts your order, not the date the dealership accepts your order, and factory acceptance can be a few days later.

Also, if there's a good finance deal (as there is currently, £3k deposit contribution), get the finance accepted, you can always reapply later if a better deal comes along. I got stung this way once. Ordered a Golf R, dealer too lazy to do the finance at the time and a month later the GFV dropped £3k, effectively adding £92 to my monthlies. Nothing VWFS could or would do about it.

 

[Jason1987]

My bank pcp rate has suddenly now gone to 8.9% from 7.4% I give up lol! I’m just going to wait it out

 

[Jason1987]

The price hikes are getting out of hand

So Audi are increasing the price again and the way things are going their pcp rate will go up even more to about 15% lol, crazy surely it can’t go on like this and they’ll lose sales,”?

 

[Mr Freeze]

So Audi are increasing the price again and the way things are going their pcp rate will go up even more to about 15% lol, crazy surely it can’t go on like this and they’ll lose sales,”?

I wouldn't pay the current 10.8% .
I wouldn't be surprised if they are losing sales already .

 

[Jason1987]

I wouldn't pay the current 10.8% .
I wouldn't be surprised if they are losing sales already .

Does anyone know why the Audi pcp final payment is so high? My bank say the car would be £18.5k to pay at end at 8.9% but Audi say £22.5k at 10.6% apr, is that purely due to the higher interest? Or are they just being sneaky somewhere?

 

[monkeyhanger]

Does anyone know why the Audi pcp final payment is so high? My bank say the car would be £18.5k to pay at end at 8.9% but Audi say £22.5k at 10.6% apr, is that purely due to the higher interest? Or are they just being sneaky somewhere?

I bet your overall monthly payments between the old and new terms is broadly the same.

The final payment is the absolute minimum that Audi think it'll be worth at the end of your term. From a capital repayment point of view, in your monthlies, you are only paying the difference between the purchase price and the GFV - this is the depreciation of the car over your term. From an interest repayment point of view, you are paying a higher %APR and paying interest in more of the car because you need to pay more of it off. So you will be paying more interest, but less capital, overall, you'll be paying broadly the same on a monthly basis. The £3k deposit contribution helps offset that extra interest too.

 

[Mr Freeze]

Does anyone know why the Audi pcp final payment is so high? My bank say the car would be £18.5k to pay at end at 8.9% but Audi say £22.5k at 10.6% apr, is that purely due to the higher interest? Or are they just being sneaky somewhere?

@monkeyhanger as explained it

 

[Jason1987]

I bet your overall monthly payments between the old and new terms is broadly the same.

The final payment is the absolute minimum that Audi think it'll be worth at the end of your term. From a capital repayment point of view, in your monthlies, you are only paying the difference between the purchase price and the GFV - this is the depreciation of the car over your term. From an interest repayment point of view, you are paying a higher %APR and paying interest in more of the car because you need to pay more of it off. So you will be paying more interest, but less capital, overall, you'll be paying broadly the same on a monthly basis. The £3k deposit contribution helps offset that extra interest too.

So if the Audi pcp is slightly less per month than with with my bank, isn’t it still better to use my bank if the gfv is 18k instead of 21k?

 

[monkeyhanger]

So if the Audi pcp is slightly less per month than with with my bank, isn’t it still better to use my bank if the gfv is 18k instead of 21k?

That depends.
1. If you're planning on buying the car by paying off the balloon payment at the end of your PCP term or are financing the cost of the whole car to total ownership, then use the bank's loan.
2. If you're planning on giving the car back at the end of term and not buying another Audi, go with the Audi finance, or do as per 1, but sell the Audi - at 3 or 4 years old it'll be worth more than what you owe on it.
3. If you're going to get another Audi at the end of your PCP, you could do either, but you'll probably have more equity in it with the bank loan.

Car finance is easier to get approval for than an unsecured personal loan, so keep that in mind if your credit rating is less than ideal.

Even if you don't go with the PCP to term, you still want to take it out and settle within 14 days to keep the deposit contribution (which will mean already having that bank loan set up to pay it off).

 

[Jason1987]

That depends.
1. If you're planning on buying the car by paying off the balloon payment at the end of your PCP term or are financing the cost of the whole car to total ownership, then use the bank's loan.
2. If you're planning on giving the car back at the end of term and not buying another Audi, go with the Audi finance, or do as per 1, but sell the Audi - at 3 or 4 years old it'll be worth more than what you owe on it.
3. If you're going to get another Audi at the end of your PCP, you could do either, but you'll probably have more equity in it with the bank loan.

Car finance is easier to get approval for than an unsecured personal loan, so keep that in mind if your credit rating is less than ideal.

Even if you don't go with the PCP to term, you still want to take it out and settle within 14 days to keep the deposit contribution (which will mean already having that bank loan set up to pay it off).

Thanks. I guess as the bank pcp has a gfv of only £18k instead of £21k with Audi I’d use the bank loan as I may want to refinance after 4 years. It can’t keep going up and up as no one will but their cars.

 

[Sparks43]

Thanks. I guess as the bank pcp has a gfv of only £18k instead of £21k with Audi I’d use the bank loan as I may want to refinance after 4 years. It can’t keep going up and up as no one will but their cars.

Also the GFV only kicks in at the end of the term remember - If you go early you get some interest rebated and at present used cars are really holding their price, but I've been in a situation in the past that the car's value was below what I owed (To be fair it was the dealer who messed it up by giving me my £1,000 deposit back when I collected the car but it was to complicated to try and explain it to them), but just worth noting re the GFV

 

[JJINANAUDI]

I've just placed an order for a hybrid a3 through a lease company through my work. Anyone had an experience of what the wait time was like for the hybrids? I've been told estimated delivery of November