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So I might have tried to order one today :rock:

Slight issue is they want a £5K holding deposit! Anyone else had anything similar? I have literally never paid more than £500 to hold any car ever.

They are saying it is because I've selected ceramics and buckets.

TX.
 
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Terminator x said:
So I might have tried to order one today :rock:

Slight issue is they want a £5K holding deposit! Anyone else had anything similar? I have literally never paid more than £500 to hold any car ever.

They are saying it is because I've selected ceramics and buckets.

TX.
At the very most I have paid a deposit of £1k but normally £500. Shouldn’t make any difference whether it has ceramics or not, next they will be asking for kidneys.
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Never had this but can understand their position. They wont want to be left with a high spec car if you pull out.

Never been more than £500 for me either.
 
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kayemill said:
Never had this but can understand their position. They wont want to be left with a high spec car if you pull out.
Never been more than £500 for me either.
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I think other makes are doing it too, especially on high spec cars. Seems to be a consequence of the dreamers ticking every box and then going home and changing their mind when reality hits and they realise they can't get stuff for peanuts per month like they used to do. Then they are left with a car no-one will buy.

Terminator x said:
They are saying it is because I've selected ceramics and buckets.
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TBH this is why they would be stuck with it, I have ceramics on another machine and they have been nothing but a PITA. Had one perfect disc knackered by a stone getting wedged. Same with buckets, I have them in other cars and you need to be the right shape. Too much or too little 'padding' (the latter is actually worse as I found out.) it gets uncomfortable really quick. I know a couple of people taken buckets out of R8s for that reason. For what I use the RS3 for, and I suspect many others, it would not be something I would pay extra for.
 
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Terminator x said:
So I might have tried to order one today :rock:

Slight issue is they want a £5K holding deposit! Anyone else had anything similar? I have literally never paid more than £500 to hold any car ever.

They are saying it is because I've selected ceramics and buckets.

TX.
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So what is happening with your "other" car then ? :whistle2:
 
Nice to know the dealer trusts you. I have a good relationship with my dealer and once I am committed to a car we do the deal, deposit and then wait for it to land. Aware that a lot of dealers ask for more but again the most I have deposited is £1k and that’s with the caveat I get what was ordered. I know that sounds a bit duh, but I have had it before that a change in the spec has put me off a car and I feel short changed.
I get there will be experiences of individuals ordering and backing out, but there is always someone somewhere that will buy a stock car.
Just my ten pence worth TX.
 
Terminator x said:
So I might have tried to order one today :rock:

Slight issue is they want a £5K holding deposit! Anyone else had anything similar? I have literally never paid more than £500 to hold any car ever.

They are saying it is because I've selected ceramics and buckets.

TX.
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**** me you took your time
5K……..not a chance.
 
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flybynite said:
I think other makes are doing it too, especially on high spec cars. Seems to be a consequence of the dreamers ticking every box and then going home and changing their mind when reality hits and they realise they can't get stuff for peanuts per month like they used to do. Then they are left with a car no-one will buy.



TBH this is why they would be stuck with it, I have ceramics on another machine and they have been nothing but a PITA. Had one perfect disc knackered by a stone getting wedged. Same with buckets, I have them in other cars and you need to be the right shape. Too much or too little 'padding' (the latter is actually worse as I found out.) it gets uncomfortable really quick. I know a couple of people taken buckets out of R8s for that reason. For what I use the RS3 for, and I suspect many others, it would not be something I would pay extra for.
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I like the bucket seats, but, I have also grown like the std electric memory seats as my wife also uses the car and it saves all that messing about trying to get the seat to my liking, when I ordered the car the thought of 'memory' seats never really appealed, funny how things change, they would now be a 'must have' on a future buy
 
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Mike.46 said:
I like the bucket seats, but, I have also grown like the std electric memory seats as my wife also uses the car and it saves all that messing about trying to get the seat to my liking, when I ordered the car the thought of 'memory' seats never really appealed, funny how things change, they would now be a 'must have' on a future buy
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Even though I'm mostly the only driver of the RS3 and they never came with memory, I like the ability to nudge it to change position slightly on long trips. I never liked the quilting on the 8V supersports and the loss of the movable headrest made the standard seats a no brainer for me. We do have memory on the two cars we swap about, especially as one even does the column too :grinning:

I have varying aggressive buckets in two others and after a few hours I do get pressure points in both of them. Good while on a run or track but drive home can be painful. I like the thought of buckets in the RS but I'd lose too much and practically it is a non starter. I spent a long time sat in a mates R8 buckets before deciding against when he got rid of them.
 
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Even though I'm mostly the only driver of the RS3 and they never came with memory, I like the ability to nudge it to change position slightly on long trips. I never liked the quilting on the 8V supersports and the loss of the movable headrest made the standard seats a no brainer for me. We do have memory on the two cars we swap about, especially as one even does the column too :grinning:

I have varying aggressive buckets in two others and after a few hours I do get pressure points in both of them. Good while on a run or track but drive home can be painful. I like the thought of buckets in the RS but I'd lose too much and practically it is a non starter. I spent a long time sat in a mates R8 buckets before deciding against when he got rid of them.
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I have 2 R8's, a V8 and a V10, both manual transmission, should have probably kept the 13 plate 'facelift' V10 as I think they only sold about 6 manual cars.

Ceramics...............at the time we used to take the ceramics off Porsche GT3's that were used for track days, far too many had ended up in, or going through a gravel trap and picking a stone up which destroyed the disc and at around £8k a corner (IIRC) made it an expensive day out.

I still have my 22 RS3 Vorsprung hatch, ive got itchy feet again now for a change but every time I look around i'm ending up back with another RS3 for varying reasons on other cars :)
 
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Terminator x said:
So I might have tried to order one today :rock:

Slight issue is they want a £5K holding deposit! Anyone else had anything similar? I have literally never paid more than £500 to hold any car ever.

They are saying it is because I've selected ceramics and buckets.

TX.
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I had to leave 1k for my order, same ceramics and bucket seats. Although i ended up canceling and getting a refund and got a similar spec car from Audi Wheatstone in London.
 
Terminator x said:
BW is next week, not heard owt from Audi though.

TX.
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what is that steering wheel like in real life mate ?

Just looks a bit "weird" in the photo !

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what is that steering wheel like in real life mate ?

Just looks a bit "weird" in the photo !

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Had a good look at one in the dealership and TBF it looks and feels good in the flesh. I did pass the “Austin Allegro” comment but quite a few manufacturers have brought the square wheel back.
 
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It's different for tha sake of difference. Doesn't look that bad in person but I don't like a steering wheel you can't use by letting the grip off, letting it spin back and then grabbing it again. But using it that way is also against the idea of the alcantara finish. Wouldn't be a deal breaker for me either, just a minor negative. I did like the old wheel much better.
 
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I wasnt sure of the alcantara 'square' wheel but in practise it feels 'ok' I do however think that the haptic buttons are a step backwards,
One thing to remember with the alcantara steering wheel is you cant just jump in and move the car with dirty hands, it's a) going to show every mark and b) just not going to 'wipe clean' either.
I bought an alcantara wheel for my R8 and was that 'careful' about getting marks on it I reverted back to the std leather wheel and sold it on
 
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Yeah I know photos can sometimes not portray things in the best light.

I like the Allegro comment above ha ha :tearsofjoy:

Alcantara / race tec is something I have ummed and arrrd over.
Had it on the A45 I had and whilst I liked it, you are conscious of marking it and it does need a buff up every so often.
It looks good though.

I decided not to go with it in my current car and went for leather, just to avoid the upkeep, but I do still prefer the 'look' of the alcantara
 
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We had a test drive event today with the RS3 involved so of course I took it out for a drive. It had the basic seats with alcantara finish and the alcantara steering wheel. The seats felt great, liked them more than the full leather ones I had sat on earlier. But I didn't like the alcantara wheel at all - it actually felt oddly slippery without gloves, so I had to put my winter gloves on for the drive. The leather wheel of the car they had a year ago in the same event suited me way better.

Also the car didn't feel quite as quick now that I knew what to expect, but the damn engine sound on high revs, that's just something else. Can't blame you if you find that a reason to buy that car.
 
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JKP said:
Also the car didn't feel quite as quick now that I knew what to expect
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My mate said the same about his, but once he had a couple of thousand miles on the car he said it feels quicker. He also says the throttle is more responsive.
I felt the same with the new S3 as well.
 
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Jcbmally said:
My mate said the same about his, but once he had a couple of thousand miles on the car he said it feels quicker. He also says the throttle is more responsive.
I felt the same with the new S3 as well.
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Throttle 'mapping' is different between pre and post facelift car, jumping straight out of a pre FL into a FL car has the new car accelerating quicker with you using the 'muscle memory' of the earlier car
 
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some may like that, some may not...
I remember with my old Mk5 GTI there was a specific Revo map that would make the throttle control more linear, rather than dumping it all in the first 20% of pedal travel

a manufacturer trick to make it 'feel' faster.. but actually made it less friendly to drive..
i can remember my golf feeling 'slower' but actually made it much smoother to drive and exit corners/roundabouts etc....

after a couple of days, completely forgot about any difference......
 
Both cars I drove were the FL ones. I think for me it was more like I didn't know what to expect at the first time, so hitting the accelerator was like "shiiit, this thing is fast!" The second time was more like "ok, still pretty fast." Could be though that the latter one had less miles on the clock so it might had not been fully broken-in yet.
 
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some may like that, some may not...
I remember with my old Mk5 GTI there was a specific Revo map that would make the throttle control more linear, rather than dumping it all in the first 20% of pedal travel

a manufacturer trick to make it 'feel' faster.. but actually made it less friendly to drive..
i can remember my golf feeling 'slower' but actually made it much smoother to drive and exit corners/roundabouts etc....

after a couple of days, completely forgot about any difference......
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I think Audi went too far into 'Nanny mode' with the 8Y RS3, (the far too quiet exhaust, the 0c cold weather engine behavior, water pump shielding to heat cyl head up preventing demisting etc and a lazy accelerator pedal to promote better emissions)


They have addressed some of this with the 8.5 Y including the throttle mapping, so less pedal travel for more 'performance' (They have also 90% improved that v cold morning first 200 metres where the car hardly responded to the throttle and a sports exhaust that I think stays open in sports modes, but not the on/off heater due to the water pump sheilding stopping water circulation)

As v.danimal says you used to be able to buy a 'pedal box' this altered the throttle mapping to be more aggressive for less movement
 
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As v.danimal says you used to be able to buy a 'pedal box' this altered the throttle mapping to be more aggressive for less movement
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On the MQB stuff you were able to change the setting with VCDS, IIRC it was a choice of 2 or 3 but it did make a difference, not quite as much as an aggressive pedal box but noticeable.

You could also set a Skoda/VW/Seat etc to believe it was an Audi in VCDS. That also made a difference to throttle mapping.
 
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On the MQB stuff you were able to change the setting with VCDS, IIRC it was a choice of 2 or 3 but it did make a difference, not quite as much as an aggressive pedal box but noticeable.

You could also set a Skoda/VW/Seat etc to believe it was an Audi in VCDS. That also made a difference to throttle mapping.
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You cannot change anything now as it's all locked up on SFD2........
 
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Indeed I noticed the RS3 was a bit tricky to drive on city speeds as the throttle felt somewhat on/off. Add the strong engine braking on top of that. Total opposite to the basic A3 with the MHEV system that rather lets the car loose when you lift the accelerator.
 
So no news from Audi, I'm hoping it's being built and they'll just tell when it turns up!

I don't want to ring them as I had to agree to another £3k deposit before it entered build ... They did change from one sales person to another so I'm hoping they just forgot!

TX.
 
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You cannot change anything now as it's all locked up on SFD2........
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About the only thing available now is to scan for faults and clear them (Which was a welcome surprise) I can get to the soundaktor which says it's at 80% and also strangely 'not initialised' but unable to alter it getting a message 'The firewall was 'on' when you entered this ecu, please release the bonnet catch' but that remains whatever I do :(

It makes having the ASR with memory or memory alone a bit of a 'must have' but it's expensive, turning SS/Lane assist/speed bongs off every time you switch the car on is a PITA.

The speed bongs are very badly programmed (IMHO) you can set up to 7 mph above the speed limit before they become active which is ok for de restricted roads, not so much for 20-30mph limits

The camera can and does also read the speed limit on the other side of a cross roads, so you can turn right or left and the system thinks you are in a 20mph when you are actually in a 30/40/50/60 limit, total PITA
 
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Mike.46 said:
About the only thing available now is to scan for faults and clear them (Which was a welcome surprise) I can get to the soundaktor which says it's at 80% and also strangely 'not initialised' but unable to alter it getting a message 'The firewall was 'on' when you entered this ecu, please release the bonnet catch' but that remains whatever I do :(

It makes having the ASR with memory or memory alone a bit of a 'must have' but it's expensive, turning SS/Lane assist/speed bongs off every time you switch the car on is a PITA.

The speed bongs are very badly programmed (IMHO) you can set up to 7 mph above the speed limit before they become active which is ok for de restricted roads, not so much for 20-30mph limits

The camera can and does also read the speed limit on the other side of a cross roads, so you can turn right or left and the system thinks you are in a 20mph when you are actually in a 30/40/50/60 limit, total PITA
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I find the same with the speed bongs on the wife’s Born VZ, they repeat constantly in 20mph areas but less so in regular 30-70mph areas.
It’s a pain remembering to swipe down into the shortcut menu at the start of every journey, OBD11 / VCDS / Odis are useless, SFD2 requires a lot of hoops to jump through.
I know people that have tried to use the ‘one click app’ in OBD11 and come unstuck because once / if it manages a change, they are stuck with it, and it always isn’t the change they were after.

The Tesla has same issue but I can switch all those to remember last state etc with S3XY commander I fitted to it.
 
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Talking of 'Lane Assist' there were 7 killed in a mini bus accident, whether it's correct or not I read the accident was 'caused' by the Lane Assist stopping, or hindering the bus returning to it's correct side of the road

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Football fans Home and Away days

Reports the accident in which the 7 PAOK fans lost their life was down to the mini van’s technology. A van carrying fans of the Greek club PAOK crashed into an oncoming truck. -> The van overtook...
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Mike.46 said:
Talking of 'Lane Assist' there were 7 killed in a mini bus accident, whether it's correct or not I read the accident was 'caused' by the Lane Assist stopping, or hindering the bus returning to it's correct side of the road

www.facebook.com

Football fans Home and Away days

Reports the accident in which the 7 PAOK fans lost their life was down to the mini van’s technology. A van carrying fans of the Greek club PAOK crashed into an oncoming truck. -> The van overtook...
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Can totally believe this. Same thing happened to me in both my cars when I first got them and never knew what Lane Assist was. If you overtook on a single carriageway it put you straight back into oncoming traffic. No idea how it is legal to have this feature in cars. Mental.
 
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whilst I was waiting for my 22 RS3 I test drove another dealers demo car (just to see whether I liked the car or not, there were very few with demo cars at the time), a dual carriageway with roundabouts which I took a little quickly and lane assist that fought me both into and out of the roundabout casing quite a 'WTF was that' moment or two.

The lane assist on my FL is not active until 50mph, which doesn’t really help as it starts 'assisting' after I have forgotten about it being on.

I don’t know why we keep moaning about people texting etc and then give them the tools (Lane assist/adaptive cruise etc) to make it easier for them to pay less attention to actually driving the car
 
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