81k…..someone’s having a laugh.
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Audi themselves are having a laugh, car prices are insane, no wonder byd & Chinese brands will win as you get twice as much of a car for half the price & less & they shift man, some are stupidly quick & the range coming out for some is crazy, subsidised by Chinese government but hey it's not like other countries don't do the same for their brands.
Audi have effectively killed off the RS3 at those prices, there’s no chatter about it anymore, back when it was launched and for many years up until 2020 the RS3 was the car to get in terms of what was under the bonnet, not any more as interest on forums etc has gone.
I know, prices are mad. In Audi today waiting on my service. They had a RS3 8.5y at 65k and finance at 10.4 on a new car. No way I would have paid that money.
New M2 CS will be 100k+ with ceramics and decent paint colour.
Yaris GR Ogier edition being punted at 80k+
New M2 CS will be 100k+ with ceramics and decent paint colour.
Yaris GR Ogier edition being punted at 80k+
The depreciation on the BMW's is scary.
Yaris price is stupid but with only 3 in the UK you're unlikely to spot another one on the road.
This lad I used at Audi Stirling, been there close on 15 years I believe, has handed in his resignation. Heard sales are so far behind, losing out to BMW big time due to better finance rates. Mental but understandable. I mean, who's paying 75k for an SQ5!!!!!
My head ruled over my heart. I lusted over a 8.5Y RS3 for months, but even with the DTD discount, I couldn't make the figures work. As it was going to be PCP, more disposable my/family's way is more important right now. I even looked into 8Y models with limited mileage, but finance is just mental right now. I went back to BMW to try and trade the M for M, but even they couldn't work a deal for a M3 which is all I would move into from the X3M (I just couldn't get my eyes to agree with the new M2).
So, I've gone slightly rogue and ordered a Golf R Black Edition. It's a bit Swiss Army Knife in that it'll carry the family and the dog, has the all wheel drive I need for country living and has a tow bar option for the eMTB. It's rapid enough and is surprisingly more engaging in the twisty roads than I expected. Mind you, despite the M badge and configurable drivetrain, the weight and ride height of the X3M holds it back (slightly) on the B roads. It goes like stink otherwise. VW were a joy to deal with and they matched the DTD deal without a fuss. So I'm happy that I've a do it all, nippy, decent looking small hatch for a deal. Happy enough for now anyway. I'll keep my eyes on prices and look to trade into a 8.5Y at some point as the noise and the bucket seats alone are enough for me to move, but for the right price. That and the restraining order from the local Audi dealership for the time I spent there over the last few months in the showroom sitting in their various RS3s. I did have a 7.5 GTI for 2 years and it was a great car, so I've high hopes for the R. Why shouldn't I, it's a Golf after all!
So, I've gone slightly rogue and ordered a Golf R Black Edition. It's a bit Swiss Army Knife in that it'll carry the family and the dog, has the all wheel drive I need for country living and has a tow bar option for the eMTB. It's rapid enough and is surprisingly more engaging in the twisty roads than I expected. Mind you, despite the M badge and configurable drivetrain, the weight and ride height of the X3M holds it back (slightly) on the B roads. It goes like stink otherwise. VW were a joy to deal with and they matched the DTD deal without a fuss. So I'm happy that I've a do it all, nippy, decent looking small hatch for a deal. Happy enough for now anyway. I'll keep my eyes on prices and look to trade into a 8.5Y at some point as the noise and the bucket seats alone are enough for me to move, but for the right price. That and the restraining order from the local Audi dealership for the time I spent there over the last few months in the showroom sitting in their various RS3s. I did have a 7.5 GTI for 2 years and it was a great car, so I've high hopes for the R. Why shouldn't I, it's a Golf after all!
Congrats Rich, hope you like it. Does the new Golf R 8.5 use the torque splitter or the haldex system?
Spec?
how long you have to wait ?
Spec?
how long you have to wait ?
Rico is on the money. People dont look at the £80k price tag, they look at the monthly cost of PCP. That's what has allowed manufacturers to rocket the prices. Basically its PCP thats killing the industry for new buyers. audi would rather sell 50 S3's at £60k to a PCP outlet than 50 to private buyers at £55k and the PCP companies love it because they corner the markets as no one has the cash now.
where they are coming unstuck is people are defaulting on the contracts early and the PCP are repossessing cars by the thousand and thats why there are dozens of new model low milage RS3's on the market they cant shift and cant afford to drop the price.
I looked at a new S3 and the road tax doesnt help, i looked at a Golf R 8.5.....its a bit cheaper but its still £50k with bells and whistles...and its still just a golf. Bottom line is i will keep the S3, its as quick as a RS3 anyway and in a year or 2 , old age will force me into something a bit further off the ground anyway
Prob a Macan thats just out of the luxury road tax 6 year band
where they are coming unstuck is people are defaulting on the contracts early and the PCP are repossessing cars by the thousand and thats why there are dozens of new model low milage RS3's on the market they cant shift and cant afford to drop the price.
I looked at a new S3 and the road tax doesnt help, i looked at a Golf R 8.5.....its a bit cheaper but its still £50k with bells and whistles...and its still just a golf. Bottom line is i will keep the S3, its as quick as a RS3 anyway and in a year or 2 , old age will force me into something a bit further off the ground anyway
Prob a Macan thats just out of the luxury road tax 6 year band
Cheers Carl. Has the torque splitter.
Basically all options bar leather (seats are more comfortable and heat up quicker with the alcantara style), £3.5k akra exhaust and carbon inlays. With the DTD discount basically got all options thrown in.
Car is built and on way to the port so 3-4 weeks hopefully.
Basically all options bar leather (seats are more comfortable and heat up quicker with the alcantara style), £3.5k akra exhaust and carbon inlays. With the DTD discount basically got all options thrown in.
Car is built and on way to the port so 3-4 weeks hopefully.
What colour bud. Should sound ok. They look good. You gone for the standard or upgraded alloys. Like both. Standards look very similar to ones on my RS.
Lapiz blue obviously. Pano roof and the upgraded lightweights alloys. Back to the blue and black theme as per the old S3.
Colin picked one up earlier in the year after he moved on his 8Y RS3 to fund a house build. Not many 8.5s around town so should be more exclusive than the older ones.
Will def be more engaging on early Sunday drives out Deeside than the X3M. Excited to get it. New car days outstrip new bike days everytime!
I'm a big Golf R fan, had a 7.5 for 4 years and loved it, really wanted a Mk8 but couldnt get on with the early infotainment system, heater controls etc.
However I did test drive a Mk8 twice, once when I couldnt navigate the menu to get the car into a 'sport' mode as the ESC kept flashing at me and holding the car back and the second time once I knew how to get to 'Spot mode'
To compare it to my now RS3
Golf R has much more ESC interference in 'Normal' mode than the RS3
Golf R eggs you on to drive it like a Tw8t where the RS3 really tries to do the opposite
The Golf R (to me) feels like VW have done a better job programming what the rear differential does, gives more confidence than RS3
I think an RS3 would struggle to keep up with a Golf R down some twisty A/B roads, both drivers being equal
Golf R doesnt need wider front tyres to help with understeer
If you can unlock the RS3 exhaust (valve controller or part system) the Golf will never sound as good