8.5Y RS3

I was in by Aberdeen Audi at the weekend. They've got 3 coming in in a few weeks, all Sportbacks. None have the buckets specced, which is disappointing as I really wanted to try them out. No other RS models in the showroom either. Patiently waiting for the call for a test drive.
 
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I was in by Aberdeen Audi at the weekend. They've got 3 coming in in a few weeks, all Sportbacks. None have the buckets specced, which is disappointing as I really wanted to try them out. No other RS models in the showroom either. Patiently waiting for the call for a test drive.
I've called a couple of local dealers around Glasgow area and none have a FL RS3, they claim currently there's none in the UK.

My car has been at port in Germany for over 3 weeks now making me think Audi are possibly holding them there until they ship the "first" UK batch together.
 
Audi UK advised me that mine will leave Germany on the 6th
Good to know, wondering if mine will be the same unless it's left recently.No rush which is why I'm not chasing too often for updates although dealer said they will let me know once the status changes it's on a boat.
 
My car has been at port in Germany for over 3 weeks now making me think Audi are possibly holding them there until they ship the "first" UK batch together.
I've had 2 cars delayed due to bad weather and either boat not been able to sail or the full allocation not getting to the boat on time (due to snow in my case). The Emden boats are for the whole VAG group and sometimes others so cars coming from a few different places.
 
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There have been a couple of these over the last 3-4 years as well, apparantly caused by EV's going rouge, this was the Felicity Ace on it's way to the USA at the time my car was about to be shipped. It was full of every VAG car from Bentley/Porsche/Lamborghini/Audi/VW etc

It sunk after being towed back and I assume in heavy sea's with all the nylon retaining straps burnt there was a massive cargo movement and over she went

I thought at the time there would be no more ships leaving until they put something in place to prevent it happening again, but they just carried on regardless:scared2:

I spoke with my dealer about it when my car arrived (just chit chat) and she said it was a PITA as the same ship brought A5's (i think) back from the USA to Europe




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After over 3 weeks sitting at port in Germany my car finally left for the UK early yesterday, dealer expecting it within the next 3 weeks.

Then it's decision time whether to collect or leave until March as originally planned, approximate £1200 price rise coming in January according to dealer so between that and VED rise in April it's going to add nearly £3k to the future list price for new orders.
 
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After over 3 weeks sitting at port in Germany my car finally left for the UK early yesterday, dealer expecting it within the next 3 weeks.

Then it's decision time whether to collect or leave until March as originally planned, approximate £1200 price rise coming in January according to dealer so between that and VED rise in April it's going to add nearly £3k to the future list price for new orders.
I love these cars, but with the price hike I don't know how they can really justify asking £75k for a hatchback. That's more than a new RS6 cost not that long ago, and more than the original R8. :tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy:
 
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Then it's decision time whether to collect or leave until March as originally planned
If you need the car then grab it, you bought it to use, but if you don't need it I would leave it, miss the worst of the weather for a year and always nice to have the latest reg, even if it is only for 6 months and 25 looks better than 74 anyway :icon thumright:
I don't know how they can really justify asking £75k for a hatchback. That's more than a new RS6 cost not that long ago, and more than the original R8
Those days are long gone! You just need to add up the inflation for the last couple of years. This is what the idiots in government round the world call a 'soft landing' after the marathon run of printing money. There were always going to be consequences this is one of them.:crying:
 
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If you need the car then grab it, you bought it to use, but if you don't need it I would leave it, miss the worst of the weather for a year and always nice to have the latest reg, even if it is only for 6 months and 25 looks better than 74 anyway :icon thumright:

Those days are long gone! You just need to add up the inflation for the last couple of years. This is what the idiots in government round the world call a 'soft landing' after the marathon run of printing money. There were always going to be consequences this is one of them.:crying:
That's true, but I also feel like a lot of things have gone up significantly above inflation, Audi's being one of them. Christ, one of the new A5 Avants are almost £65k spec'd up which is insane. Yet you can pick up a well spec'd Skoda Octavia for almost half the price (I know it's a different brand, but it's the same chassis and many of the same parts...), so it feels like Audi are taking the preverbal. I don't see how it's sustainable for them since wages aren't going up at nearly the same rate.
 
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Yet you can pick up a well spec'd Skoda Octavia for almost half the price (I know it's a different brand, but it's the same chassis and many of the same parts...),
You are not wrong but that has always been the case. If I could have got a bigger engine in our Octy, I wouldn't be driving an RS3 :disappointed:
 
You are not wrong but that has always been the case. If I could have got a bigger engine in our Octy, I wouldn't be driving an RS3 :disappointed:
I know what you mean. That's kinda why I was comparing the A5 to the Octavia since they're both the same engine, but massively more expensive for the Audi.
 
It's all about brand awareness, perception, and loyalty. We know Audis and Skoda have a lot of the same parts, but more people will aspire to own the Audi and be willing to pay a premium for it too, because it's perceived as being more of a luxury brand.

You can take that to all sorts of extremes. A £100 million house is unlikely to be 10x better than a £10 million one, but people will pay for it. The same with cars. A Chiron is a ****** nice car, but does anyone think that at £3.5 million it's realistically more than 23x better than a GT3?

It's all about desirability and people being willing to pay more because of it.

We complain, but then we all took a decision own one after all

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I know what you mean. That's kinda why I was comparing the A5 to the Octavia since they're both the same engine, but massively more expensive for the Audi.
You can't really compare those. The Octy is A3 MQB size Transverse FWD or Haldex. The A4/A5 is MLB longitudinal FWD or Full Quattro. Even the Superb is MQB A3/Golf platform.
I'm a big fan of Skoda and what they do with what they have (what they are allowed to do) but the MLB cars are a step up in capability.
 
You can't really compare those. The Octy is A3 MQB size Transverse FWD or Haldex. The A4/A5 is MLB longitudinal FWD or Full Quattro. Even the Superb is MQB A3/Golf platform.
I'm a big fan of Skoda and what they do with what they have (what they are allowed to do) but the MLB cars are a step up in capability.
True, I don't know the the outright capability is purely down to the platform though. The RS3 is the same platform as the Superb if they're both MQB, but I'd definitely say the RS3 is a bit more capable. :tearsofjoy: Joking aside, I know what you mean. And it really is just down to the badge for the vast majority of the pricing for Audi I think, but that will only get you sales for so long if you're jacking up the prices at an alarming rate like they are. I could afford the 8Y RS3 fine, but looking at the 8.5Y it's just become too much for me over only a few years. I'm sure many more than me will manage, but unless my circumstances change I think I'm unfortunately going to keep away from Audi for the foreseeable.

Not that they'll notice one less customer, but I may well be just the start if others are in the same boat.
 
That's true, but I also feel like a lot of things have gone up significantly above inflation, Audi's being one of them. Christ, one of the new A5 Avants are almost £65k spec'd up which is insane. Yet you can pick up a well spec'd Skoda Octavia for almost half the price (I know it's a different brand, but it's the same chassis and many of the same parts...), so it feels like Audi are taking the preverbal. I don't see how it's sustainable for them since wages aren't going up at nearly the same rate.
Octavia and A3 are the same chassis, A5 is a different story so they don't compare. If you compare A3 to Octavia, the pricing may surprise. When you spec an Octavia to match the driving dynamics of an A3 you end up with almost the same price tag or even more. Also there are some options that cost exactly the same for both, like an auxillary heater. Of course you can get the Octavia also way cheaper than A3 but it's very different experience. While a basic Octavia isn't a bad car at all, there's nothing inspiring in it, none. Audi certainly feels more special.

The A3 now is 15 % more expensive than what it was when I ordered mine three years ago. The RS3 here prices now double the A3, actually almost three times of the entry level 30 TFSI.
 
Octavia and A3 are the same chassis, A5 is a different story so they don't compare. If you compare A3 to Octavia, the pricing may surprise. When you spec an Octavia to match the driving dynamics of an A3 you end up with almost the same price tag or even more. Also there are some options that cost exactly the same for both, like an auxillary heater. Of course you can get the Octavia also way cheaper than A3 but it's very different experience. While a basic Octavia isn't a bad car at all, there's nothing inspiring in it, none. Audi certainly feels more special.

The A3 now is 15 % more expensive than what it was when I ordered mine three years ago. The RS3 here prices now double the A3, actually almost three times of the entry level 30 TFSI.
I get what you mean, and the prices of them are actually pretty close. I don't think this is the best forum to be arguing Audi versus Skoda for value, I don't imagine I'll win that one because folk here have obviously gone with the Audi option. I've done the same in the past too, despite the premium, but just trying to say that the premium is now just starting to be a little too large for me, personally, to justify.

Still love Audi's, and I'd have another in a heartbeat if I could justify the cost to myself. Maybe if they slow down increases I'll be back in one in the future.

Can I just point out that the new S6 is £100k... That's a mental amount of money for an electric estate.
 
Audi versus Skoda for value, I don't imagine I'll win that one because folk here have obviously gone with the Audi option. I've done the same in the past too, despite the premium, but just trying to say that the premium is now just starting to be a little too large for me, personally, to justify.
You will get no argument from me, I am a fan of Skoda but VAG make sure there is not much overlap. Audi don't make a small estate car. Skoda don't make a 5-pot hatch or saloon. When it comes like for like e.g the Enyaq vs the Q4 etron which I was looking at recently, the difference in price is not so great. Much as though I like the Enyaq, I can see where the money is spent on the Q4 Etron.

I priced up an Alpina the other day, one of the few cars I would change to. Spec'd how I wanted it total was 115K, :astonished: and that is for a glorified 3-series estate!

New Octy estate is over double what I paid 6 years ago and for a far lower spec car.

World certainly ain't what it used to be. :disappointed:
 
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True, I don't know the the outright capability is purely down to the platform though. The RS3 is the same platform as the Superb if they're both MQB, but I'd definitely say the RS3 is a bit more capable. :tearsofjoy: Joking aside, I know what you mean. And it really is just down to the badge for the vast majority of the pricing for Audi I think, but that will only get you sales for so long if you're jacking up the prices at an alarming rate like they are. I could afford the 8Y RS3 fine, but looking at the 8.5Y it's just become too much for me over only a few years. I'm sure many more than me will manage, but unless my circumstances change I think I'm unfortunately going to keep away from Audi for the foreseeable.

Not that they'll notice one less customer, but I may well be just the start if others are in the same boat.
It ain’t worth the money and now with another price rise on the horizon and PCP payments of £1k plus……
We’ve ordered a new Model 3 Performance because the Tax incentives really work for us, especially the Corp tax ones.
 
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New Octy estate is over double what I paid 6 years ago and for a far lower spec car.
Wow. Lots have happened during six years but that's just insane.

The recent price increases over the few year old cars really hit me when I got an offer of a new A3 similar to my current one. It was brutal to see the actual numbers what you should pay after depreciation of the old car to get a new one that's not even an improvement, just new. No wonder the new car registrations are extremely low at the moment, I guess there aren't much customers changing newish cars to brand new ones as it's so badly a waste of money for now.

I think my next car will have to be a very different one to justify its price.
 
Wow. Lots have happened during six years but that's just insane.

The recent price increases over the few year old cars really hit me when I got an offer of a new A3 similar to my current one. It was brutal to see the actual numbers what you should pay after depreciation of the old car to get a new one that's not even an improvement, just new. No wonder the new car registrations are extremely low at the moment, I guess there aren't much customers changing newish cars to brand new ones as it's so badly a waste of money for now.

I think my next car will have to be a very different one to justify its price.
This is kind of my point. Surely they'd get a higher turnover of new vehicles if they didn't jack the prices up so much. I assume that a good number of people will be in a similar position where the new prices are just too much and they'll hold onto older cars a little longer than they may have in the past, which will just reduce these manufactures sales and profit. I know there's been inflation but not to the extent we're seeing goods increases by I don't think.

I bought my VS SB RS3 8Y for £58k with the ceramics, and now we're looking at almost £75k for a well spec'd VS SB 8.5Y. That's basically a 30% increase in 4 years. Mad.
 
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I love my car but it's definately not worth what they are asking for now. It's worked for me for a long time now with having twins and dogs but kids are grown up now so that kind of money will have to go somewhere else. I specced up an 8.5Y the same as mine and at over 70K nobody could justify that unless you have unlimited funds.
 
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We’ve ordered a new Model 3 Performance because the Tax incentives really work for us, especially the Corp tax ones.

Is it still worthwhile? I thought the days of 130% write-offs had gone. I know you can still get top rate salary sacrifice but out of a figure that is increasing by the minute because of plummeting residuals. We could make use of one but there is still nothing as capable as a family wagon as what we have now.

No wonder the new car registrations are extremely low at the moment, I guess there aren't much customers changing newish cars to brand new ones as it's so badly a waste of money for now.
I think my next car will have to be a very different one to justify its price.
It is not just the price, there is nothing I actually want. Distinct drop in quality across all brands, Tech I don't want, what I do want is missing, all of it glitchy and unreliable. Lack of buttons and this 'reinventing the wheel' in the interior just to make stuff cheaper. I thought I might get used to it but I don't.

My favourite car turned 40 last year, mine for 36 of that and from April will be tax and MOT free if this lot don't F that up too.

If I am still driving the 8V DAZA in 34 years it won't bother me a bit.
 
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I love my car but it's definately not worth what they are asking for now. It's worked for me for a long time now with having twins and dogs but kids are grown up now so that kind of money will have to go somewhere else. I specced up an 8.5Y the same as mine and at over 70K nobody could justify that unless you have unlimited funds.
I keep doing the Audi configurator on a FL 8Y RS3 and end up with the car I have now in the colour I have now (well similar red) the only difference being red stitching and calipers and some hard to clean wheels,

I know after a couple of days I would be thinking 'It's the same car ***'...............................
 
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I think at this point the only RS3 I would potentially buy is a Performance model for the end of life run out. That being said, that will no doubt command a premium and be even more ridiculously priced than they are, so will likely have to pass on it from a finances point. Maybe manage to pick one up a couple years after release for a less crazy price. :tearsofjoy:
 
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Somehow I think the RS3 price could be more justified to customers - here. It's somewhere around 100 k € depending on the spec, which is so much money that if you want the car you buy it anyway. There's also huge amount of tax in that price, it blurs the real vehicle price a bit. The pre-FL car was something like 75 k € if I got that right but it was available for so short period there's not much point in comparing to it. But I can sense lots of potential A3 customers turning to used car market rather than buying the new one.

I'm fortunate to still like my car and not having major issues with it so it's fine to keep it longer, only things I'd really want from the new one are a comfort access that's now a part of a mid level trim and extended warranty they are now offering. And there isn't much point in the warranty if I pay so much for it that the same money would cover a whole lot of repairs to my current car, which probably (hopefully) won't even be necessary.

Will see if I'll end up buying a new 8Y from the last batch built. It will probably be fully loaded and cost reasonably for that - if anything will at that time. The new Audi interior styling with insane screen mania (also meaning lots of sun reflections!) and capacitive crap in doors and the steering wheel isn't promising anything good about the next A3. If there will be a fully electric alternative available, it could be the anticipated game changer for me.
 
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Is it still worthwhile? I thought the days of 130% write-offs had gone. I know you can still get top rate salary sacrifice but out of a figure that is increasing by the minute because of plummeting residuals. We could make use of one but there is still nothing as capable as a family wagon as what we have now.


It is not just the price, there is nothing I actually want. Distinct drop in quality across all brands, Tech I don't want, what I do want is missing, all of it glitchy and unreliable. Lack of buttons and this 'reinventing the wheel' in the interior just to make stuff cheaper. I thought I might get used to it but I don't.

My favourite car turned 40 last year, mine for 36 of that and from April will be tax and MOT free if this lot don't F that up too.

If I am still driving the 8V DAZA in 34 years it won't bother me a bit.
It is yes.
First car I’ve ever had that’ll be on a PCH but through the company, I can offset the full purchase costs / or payments against profit and reclaim have the vat back.
Gotta be a bit smarter these days as throwing money away on flash cars is a distant memory.
 
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I love my car but it's definately not worth what they are asking for now. It's worked for me for a long time now with having twins and dogs but kids are grown up now so that kind of money will have to go somewhere else. I specced up an 8.5Y the same as mine and at over 70K nobody could justify that unless you have unlimited funds.

If you have unlimited funds, sure as sh*t aint buying an RS3 IMO

For my 8V FL pre OPF, that car was £42k!!! No RS3, despite being how highly specced, is worth much more than £60k in my eyes. Any more, I'd be looking at 2nd hand M3/4s
 
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It is yes.
First car I’ve ever had that’ll be on a PCH but through the company, I can offset the full purchase costs / or payments against profit and reclaim have the vat back.
Gotta be a bit smarter these days as throwing money away on flash cars is a distant memory.

My old man has a new Cayenne GTS, cost him £130k. Had it no more than 6 months and looking to get rid in favour of a Taycan or some sort, purely due to writing off a good chunk of tax and the BIC...no brainer if self employed.
 
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I bought my VS SB RS3 8Y for £58k with the ceramics, and now we're looking at almost £75k for a well spec'd VS SB 8.5Y. That's basically a 30% increase in 4 years. Mad.
That's true, but I also feel like a lot of things have gone up significantly above inflation, Audi's being one of them.
I specced up an 8.5Y the same as mine and at over 70K nobody could justify that unless you have unlimited funds.

Did an interesting exercise my 8V in 2017 was £57k with all options. 8.5Y with all boxes ticked, similar spec, just now 73K

2017 57K in BOE inflation calculator, as of October this year £74,456 !

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/inflation-calculator

Those of us that lived through this before were shouting warnings and expecting this but not many were listening, UK probably one of the worst but nobody escaped scot free. :disappointed:
 
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Did an interesting exercise my 8V in 2017 was £57k with all options. 8.5Y with all boxes ticked, similar spec, just now 73K

2017 57K in BOE inflation calculator, as of October this year £74,456 !

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/inflation-calculator

Those of us that lived through this before were shouting warnings and expecting this but not many were listening, UK probably one of the worst but nobody escaped scot free. :disappointed:

Inflation is actually a fair point when comparing the prices. Just a shame that the wages haven’t increased in line with how much the cost of things has!


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Had an update on my RS3 carbon vorsprung saloon It is now at the port of emden waiting to be shipped

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My RS3 saloon arrived at the dealership yesterday according to Audi UK and 2 physical cars also appeared on Autotrader on Wednesday so I'm assumung these are the first few to arrive in the UK, mine was built week 45 (week early).
 
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Free pot of glue required to pay those prices - insane!

Not sure what I will go for next but got a bit of an urge to go back to a Megane RS Trophy, brilliant car!
 
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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-de...el=RS3&postcode=EH223JE&year-from=new&fromsra

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-de...el=RS3&postcode=EH223JE&year-from=new&fromsra

Nice, but wouldn't say I feel to disheartened to drive about in my pre FL. Given the insane price for the FL, wonder how residuals will fair on earlier models...surely hold up at these prices. Silly money and a price tag that isn't remotely justifiable
The front of the facelift looks like it's melting....lol and the rear sticks right out like a big a**e.....and those terrible wheels :puke2:
 
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-de...el=RS3&postcode=EH223JE&year-from=new&fromsra

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-de...el=RS3&postcode=EH223JE&year-from=new&fromsra

Nice, but wouldn't say I feel to disheartened to drive about in my pre FL. Given the insane price for the FL, wonder how residuals will fair on earlier models...surely hold up at these prices. Silly money and a price tag that isn't remotely justifiable
It's not worth that and those don't even have the optional Buckets, you've probably done right getting the 8Y and avoiding that facelift.......
 
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I like the front but intereseting to see how big difference there's between grey and black body colour especially in what the front looks like. In grey it looks nicely accentuated but black makes everything look quite monotonous and even shrinks the car visually somehow.