Face lift A3 2024
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It's not Audi's own engine and VAG is, to my knowledge, discontinuing it. I see no other reason but efficiency in having fewer different engines to produce, even if the 3-cylinder one would have less components in it. Different engines mean different components which may mean different supply chains and these days it's definitely less risky to have them as focused as possible.
Audi website says the emissions are exactly the same for both engines. That's indeed evolving in the wrong direction.
I don't particularly like the vibrations of the 3-cyl engines and the 1,0 stalls in motorway speeds. For mostly city traffic it's a good engine. Another minor downside is that 30 TFSI is equipped with torsion beam rear axle (also FL still is). The 35 TFSI has a multilink rear axle - which partly explains the price gap difference between the 30 and 35 TFSI. Guess you don't notice the difference that much if you're not driving it "spirited" way or higher speeds but for me it would be a technical downgrade compared to my older cars.
I don't particularly like the vibrations of the 3-cyl engines and the 1,0 stalls in motorway speeds. For mostly city traffic it's a good engine. Another minor downside is that 30 TFSI is equipped with torsion beam rear axle (also FL still is). The 35 TFSI has a multilink rear axle - which partly explains the price gap difference between the 30 and 35 TFSI. Guess you don't notice the difference that much if you're not driving it "spirited" way or higher speeds but for me it would be a technical downgrade compared to my older cars.
One of the reasons I was originally interested in getting the 35 was for that suspension set up. I once asked a sales rep about that and he said they were both the same on the 30 and 35 
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However, most of my driving is city and these days my driving is quite sedate
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. However, most of my driving is city and these days my driving is quite sedate
.The sales guys don't know much about the deeper technical details. You've not been told the truth unfortunately. Take a look underneath the car. This is what you should see there: https://www.netcarshow.com/audi/2021-a3_sportback/1600x1200/wallpaper_96.htmOne of the reasons I was originally interested in getting the 35 was for that suspension set up. I once asked a sales rep about that and he said they were both the same on the 30 and 35
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So my new A3 MMI is playing up big time. It’s with the users and key user options. Sometimes it remembers me as the key user, sometimes it messed up. And the audi connect services don’t work half the time as on occasion it doesn’t log me into my.audi account. Think I’m going to have to take it in to be looked at unless anyone has any ideas on how to fix this.
Done a factory reset yesterday and seems to have got better. One thing I’ve noticed about my car is the front lights do the welcome dance but the rear lights don’t. They just come on in one go. Also, tyres that come with the car are Nexen N’Fera Sport.
Are them any good? Some Nexen tyres have got quite bad results in Finnish tests but not sure which ones. If those are more performance-orientated tyres they may not be the ones they tend to test. Hard to believe Audi fitted absolutely crap tyres under their new cars even if cutting costs.
I changed my Bridgestones to Goodeyar Eagle Asymmetric 6's and got a bit sharper steering feel. Down side of those is that they throw a lot of gravel around if there's some on the road.
I changed my Bridgestones to Goodeyar Eagle Asymmetric 6's and got a bit sharper steering feel. Down side of those is that they throw a lot of gravel around if there's some on the road.
Nexen tyres sit just above budget in range and shouldn't be on any Audi with how much there cars cost these days .
More cost cutting where they can I suppose .
More cost cutting where they can I suppose .
Apparently they are OE tyres for the A3 and other manufacturers cars.
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I have bought many brand new Audi A3/S3 over the years and never had Nexen tyres on the car when its been delivered .Apparently they are OE tyres for the A3 and other manufacturers cars.
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The standards of the Audi have fallen massively imo in the last few years .
Has anyone heard if this 8y FL will be the last Audi A3 powered by an internal combustion engine?
Wondering if there be a 8z?
Mercedes recently extended production of petrol models beyond the 2030 date that they had set to sell only EV’s, interestingly Their share price rose after this announcement,.
Sad to imagine that over the next 15 years or so we will be pushed into EV’s,
Hard to get the head around most of the decisions that Vw/Audi make over the past while so anything is possible.
Wondering if there be a 8z?
Mercedes recently extended production of petrol models beyond the 2030 date that they had set to sell only EV’s, interestingly Their share price rose after this announcement,.
Sad to imagine that over the next 15 years or so we will be pushed into EV’s,
Hard to get the head around most of the decisions that Vw/Audi make over the past while so anything is possible.
I'd happily go with an A3 sized AND priced EV with 500+ km range in winter. Sadly that's not what we have at the moment, instead we're getting enormous butt ugly Q6 with range of 500+ km in summer that costs more than SQ8.
I'm about to swap my S3's Flintstone Potenzas out for GY Eagle Asy6, because they're awful for ride and traction (rock hard compound). I'm presuming the difference will be night and day but hoping for some reassurance. My Flintstones are nowhere near worn, but I don't want to suffer them the whole 3 or 4 years I plan to have the car and get some decent rubber for the very end of my ownership. When I put Michelin PSS on my 2015 Golf R that came with Potenzas, the car was so much better after the swap - hoping for the same again.
I've heard Potenzas are quite hardcore tyres, they should perform well but be very uncomfortable. Eagles should be better for ride quality. My car came with Turanzas and they were ok-ish but had quite prominent howling noise. That seems to be also characteristic to the car because all three tyres I've had with them howl some but the Turanzas were the worst ones to do it. Maybe I wouldn't have changed them if I knew the difference isn't that significant but I'm not unhappy either. And Eagles have good rim protection and they look much better than the chubby Bridgestones.
They're supposed to be fantastic track tyres but the ultra hard compound means they have to be ragged to warm up enough to perform, and lawful driving on the roads just won't get them warm enough. Driven normally, these tyres are hard, noisy, not particularly grippy in the wet or dry. Seeing as performance VAGs are primarily bought for road use rather than ragging around the nurburgring, I'm really not sure why VAG keep fitting them to the cars I buy. I've suffered them a year and its spoiling the way the car drives.
Once had these factory fitted on a new Polo GTI+ in 2019 and the back end went very easily in bone dry and warm conditions, they were swapped out quickly for Michelin PS3s. Still...if anyone wants to buy my Bridgestones, they're coming off on Monday when I get my new GY Asy 6s fitted.
We've got a Cupra Born e-boost, and it's the closest thing to a hot hatch as an EV. There's plenty quicker EVs (in a straight line) that handle like barges, and most are big ugly SUVs, the Cupra is no GTI, but handling is akin to a GTD, not bad. Charging away from home is just an all round ****** experience though - expensive (20p a mile) and inconvenient (will the charger you've stopped for be working or available without a queue? If so you've got at least a 40 minute wait, if in use,you might have an hour's stop).
Ours gets driven within its range and charged from home, and on that basis its pretty convenient, but depreciation has proved to be shocking as there's no appetite for EVs in the UK used market, everyone being bought new is a company car or a salary sacrifice lease. Ours is worth about 55% of its new purchase price after 2 years - better than most EVs but still shocking.
Thanks, that's helpful. I was tempted to have a look at the Born ("Best EV" in recent Autocar awards), having decided that the Ioniq 5N is probably too big. Sounds like the Cupra is not there just yet, but "getting there". I know there is a new Alpine EV (the A290?) that promises to deliver a true hot hatch experience, but its not available in the UK yet.
Until the demand is there in the used market to stabilise residuals, I would hove BEVs a wide berth - what's the point in saving a grand vs the pumps, but suffering an extra £3-4k in depreciation vs the ICE alternative? Instant pick-up when you put your foot down is the best thing about the current crop of BEVs.
Seems like discounts getting bigger (via DTD etc), further discount (on pcp) from today for both it seems A3 & S3s.
Finally saw the FL A3 Sedan today. Specs were Plus model (non S-line but not the most basic trim), basic white, black optics package with black roof. Still mixed feelings but now the reason is different than before: The shape itself was actually quite nice looking, not worse if not better than the original, but good looking, I could live with that. The flat Audi rings didn't bother me either. But the front grille was just plain flat black plastic, looked the same as the most stripped basic rental pre-FL A3's. And this indeed wasn't the basic version. Now that there's no chrome or shiny black frame around the grille either anymore it looked remarkably plain. Also the lower bumper trim parts where normally another half is black and another grey looked very odd when the other half was shiny black (the black optics) and another flat matte. I guess the S-line with more shiny accents in the grille will look better, but S-line in Finland, you wish!
Nope, I just stopped by the dealer quickly right before closing time to take a quick look.
I browsed some sales sites to find some photos of different configurations. Found some but the quality wasn't great. Looked like the Plus trim grille should be a bit more shiny than the basic one. So they either fitted a wrong grille in factory or it goes matte by the black optics pacage to make the blacked out flat rings stand out from their surroundings.
I browsed some sales sites to find some photos of different configurations. Found some but the quality wasn't great. Looked like the Plus trim grille should be a bit more shiny than the basic one. So they either fitted a wrong grille in factory or it goes matte by the black optics pacage to make the blacked out flat rings stand out from their surroundings.
I had some spare time so decided to take a look myself at my local Audi dealer here in Finland.
The Sportback in Progressive Red metallic is €39,852.94 (£33,682) and the Sedan/Saloon in Arrow Grey Pearl is €42,716.95 (£36,100).
The most expensive car there was, not surprisingly, the e-tron GT Quattro at €117,930 (£99,672)
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The Sportback in Progressive Red metallic is €39,852.94 (£33,682) and the Sedan/Saloon in Arrow Grey Pearl is €42,716.95 (£36,100).
The most expensive car there was, not surprisingly, the e-tron GT Quattro at €117,930 (£99,672)
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Thanks for posting the pics! Now those show clearly the Plus trim mask is shiny black and the basic one is plain matte. Weird they seem to use it with black optics package though it looks so significantly cheaper. The car looks a lot better with the grey accents anyway, the black optics as a whole looks like a downgrade on non-S-line car.
Both colors look nice. I actually like that Arrow grey sedan a lot, I'd almost consider getting one.
Both colors look nice. I actually like that Arrow grey sedan a lot, I'd almost consider getting one.