Recall - issued 02/09/2022

[BrianTheSn@il]

Problem didn't come back after the "adjustments" so far but I doubt that they did anything apart from reflashing the software or something similar...

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Thank you, ill have to ask Audi to make "The Adjustments" and take it from there, not a big fan of Norwich Audi, when it went in the initial check and Oil change they damaged the offside Sill, it was hanging off, i had to take it to a body shop to have a new sill fitted ! It seemed that they lifted the car up on the sill !

 

[Maniek]

I'm not a fan of any dealership... When I left my car for this gearbox issue and speaker rattle investigation, they damaged the gear knob trim, left airbox bolts loose and hoses detached. Then it turned out that the door card trim is damaged but extended warranty does not cover "rattles" and trims... Disgusted with dealership and VAG in general...

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[Alex.S3]

Trying to work this out from the post, if they update the car and it flags it's about to fail do they cover the work under a recall? Asking as my car is well out of warranty.

Assuming the work is significant if the update flags it?

 

[stubbly46]

Yes all costs for repairing or replacing the transmission will be covered.

 

[rgstapley89]

Evening all, new to this forum but hoping I've come to the right place for some advice. Recently suffered the same fate as many others on this thread and my gearbox has packed in. I've been told that I need a replacement gearbox at the cost of around 8k. My VIN is covered by the 34L4 recall and I was not notified by Audi of this recall when it was issued.

From reading this thread, it seems the recall was for a software update so that an alert is issued on the dash if there is a pending gearbox failure? No doubt had I had this update therefore, I may have been able to sort the issue before it was too late..

I went to Audi with my problem and perhaps unsurprisingly, they have said that the the bolt coming loose would not cause a hole in the rear casing. How they have come to that conclusion is beyond me, particularly given that seems to be the exact issue described in this thread.

However, wondering if anyone has any advise how best to proceed? I've tried to find out but can't see that there has been any group action taken. Not sure what my next steps could be. Any help is appreciated

 

[ccs3]

Thank you, ill have to ask Audi to make "The Adjustments" and take it from there, not a big fan of Norwich Audi, when it went in the initial check and Oil change they damaged the offside Sill, it was hanging off, i had to take it to a body shop to have a new sill fitted ! It seemed that they lifted the car up on the sill !

Any update on “the adjustments”?

 

[stubbly46]

Recently came across a post on another site that there was a DQ381 update with the software number 1631. My car was updated in Sept 22 with software number 1630 and it appears that the new software was released around July 23. Does anybody have this latest software installed and if so do you have any issues with this. My thoughts are it was released to rectify issues with the original 1630 update. My original software was 0403.

 

[stubbly46]

Recently came across a post on another site that there was a DQ381 update with the software number 1631. My car was updated in Sept 22 with software number 1630 and it appears that the new software was released around July 23. Does anybody have this latest software installed and if so do you have any issues with this. My thoughts are it was released to rectify issues with the original 1630 update. My original software was 0403.

 

[suboftheday_]

Hi Guys I wonder if someone could help me

I have a 2017 a3 70k miles bought 1.5 months ago, today I got a gear box fault p0c29 “auxiliary transmission fluid pump driver circuit performance”

From my reading I think think this is to do with this recall I have no idea if it’s had this recall I think it has so of this problem happens after this recall will Audi cover the cost ??

Thank you

 

[stubbly46]

Is it an S3 with the DQ381 7-speed box. If so it would probably have been updated if it’s thrown that code. I would approach your local Audi dealer and see what they say. If it is the problem that the recall relates to it should be covered for repairs or replacement. The dealer may ask for an investigation fee of around £140 to determine the fault.
You could always approach Audi UK on Facebook and run it through them and see what they come back with.
Good luck.

 

[suboftheday_]

Is it an S3 with the DQ381 7-speed box. If so it would probably have been updated if it’s thrown that code. I would approach your local Audi dealer and see what they say. If it is the problem that the recall relates to it should be covered for repairs or replacement. The dealer may ask for an investigation fee of around £140 to determine the fault.
You could always approach Audi UK on Facebook and run it through them and see what they come back with.
Good luck.

Its a 2017 A3 2.0 TFSI, how would i find out which code the gear box is ? Its a 7 speed DSG

Thats true i might message them now

 

[Ausaudis3]

Hate to necro an old thread but had the 34L4 update done today, car seems off a little bit.

Previously, between 1-2 and 3, I would always get nice crisp and decently loud dsg burps/farts whatever you want to call them.

Drive home tonight I barely noticed them, pulled over and took off aggressively and still nothing, previously it would have reallllly made a good bit of noise, I’ve got a res delete so louder then stock, but they are basically gone.

Anyone had similar issues post upgrade? It’s like half the life’s been sucked out the car

 

[S3Bang]

Hey all!

New member here and i have the same problem as many of this thread with the gear stuck in 1st after the 34L4 update. Luckily this happens very rare, i say maybe 4 times a year.

My car was at the workshop in September 2022. I got the hole new gearbox and everything else is good with the gearbox.

My car has APR Stage 1 ECU tune.

I was just wondering if anyone has any advice with this issue on how to fix it.

All the other times when the gear was stuck in 1st, the car was in D in gearbox. But the other day i was in Manual mode and the same issue
happened.

 

[WayneB]

Came across this thread by coincidence, but glad I did because now I know why my car hangs occasionally hangs on to 1st and 2nd gear for so long even with only a slight throttle pressure, then it throws the car back and forward aggressively. It's got the TCU update.

 

[Ausaudis3]

Came across this thread by coincidence, but glad I did because now I know why my car hangs occasionally hangs on to 1st and 2nd gear for so long even with only a slight throttle pressure, then it throws the car back and forward aggressively. It's got the TCU update.

Can you check with OBD11 or VCDS and see what the SW version is? Pretty sure it will be 1630.

Dealer can flash back to either stock or the previous firmware, even if they say they can’t they can.

Any decent tuner can flash back to stock, if you have access to VCP you can DIY.

neither will void warranty in the future if the part fails, you just might have to pay for diag and take it up with your relevant consumer protection body.

IMO, it’s better to flash back to previous firmware, and get the pump rebuild kit for $4-500 and pay someone to just replace it, consider doing it during a trans service and your laughing, filters, oil and lots more gets swapped out and replaced and you don’t end up with a dud of a car

 

[S3Bang]

Came across this thread by coincidence, but glad I did because now I know why my car hangs occasionally hangs on to 1st and 2nd gear for so long even with only a slight throttle pressure, then it throws the car back and forward aggressively. It's got the TCU update.

Does your car makes this when the engine is cold or warm?

I'm going to go with the TVS remap for the gearbox in some day in the future, so i dont bother to pay the dealer to reflash the TCU.

 

[WayneB]

It's the 1630 file on mine

Hot or cold it does it, but not often and I can't replicate the fault. Quite dangerous when it hangs on to 5k though unexpectedly.

There's a new version, 2401, maybe that'll solve it.

 

[S3Bang]

Does anyone have S3 with the sw 2401 on the transmission? Is there any difference?

If that fix the issue, i have to update that for the next time when i have oil change on the dealer.

 

[Ausaudis3]

No 2401 for my DSG according to VAG flash info, what’s your DSG part number, Mines 0GC300012A

There’s a 1631 for mine available, wonder if that might fix the issue but unsure why they didn’t upgrade to that version.

Guess next best is either a downgrade, but if that voids any warranty under the recall TSB, Might just look at a tune

 

[S3Bang]

No 2401 for my DSG according to VAG flash info, what’s your DSG part number, Mines 0GC300012A

There’s a 1631 for mine available, wonder if that might fix the issue but unsure why they didn’t upgrade to that version.

Guess next best is either a downgrade, but if that voids any warranty under the recall TSB, Might just look at a tune

Mine is 0GC927711G

 

[pwaf13]

Hi all, found this thread while researching a new to me 66 plate facelift S3 which I noticed had the occasional held 1st or 2nd to redline, and a hard 2-3 shift at about 20% throttle.

Noticed some recall work 17.10.22 and I’ve run a VCDS scan and can see I’m on 1630 too.

Not sure if best placed here or VCDS forum but I was a bit confused over the dates in VCDS.

Advanced Identification/FAZIT
Identification: 5KD-566
Revision: 00H12V32
Date: 24.07.16
Manufacturer number: 8678
Test stand number: 0703

Flash Status
Programming Attempts(application): 2/2/2
Successful Attempts(application): 2/2/2
Programming Status: 00001000
Flash Date: 22.10.17

Easy to see that there have been two flashes and the date 22.10.17 lines up with records from an Erwin printout with a workshop remark, and
Component: GSG DQ381 H12 1630 from auto scan shows SW version.

But the date 24.07.16 is a bit odd as following the same format as the flash that would imply something manufactured last year?

Maybe it’s just the wrong format as production date of the car is 24.09.2016

 

[Ausaudis3]

Mine is 0GC927711G

Can you add a output of OBD11 like below?

02 Transmission
System description: GSG DQ381
Software number: 0GC300012A
Software version: 1630
Hardware number: 0GC927711G
Hardware version: H06

Not sure but think diff software numbers will have different Software versions available, even if they are on the same Hardware number.

 

[S3Bang]

System description: GSG DQ381
Hardware number: 0GC927711G
Hardware version: H06
Software number: 0GC300012A
Software version: 1630

 

[S3Bang]

a hard 2-3 shift at about 20% throttle.

I have also experience the same thing. This was also present before the 34L4 update with the old gearbox. I thought this was just normal behavior but im not sure anymore. This happens more when the car is cold (cold transmission oil).

 

[pwaf13]

I have also experience the same thing. This was also present before the 34L4 update with the old gearbox. I thought this was just normal behavior but im not sure anymore. This happens more when the car is cold (cold transmission oil).

I seem to recall the same on my mk7.5 2017 golf r, but was 5 years ago.

I’m planning on tuning pretty soon, doing a DSG service early at 47k tomorrow, and tuning later. Hoping for no issues with this aux pump!

 

[Ausaudis3]

System description: GSG DQ381
Hardware number: 0GC927711G
Hardware version: H06
Software number: 0GC300012A
Software version: 1630

Looks the same as mine, the newest version will be 1631 according to https://vag-flashinfo.de/site/index?partno=0GC300012A

Stock firmware will be 1402, it’s not recorded on vagflashinfo as it’s a factory only flash and hard to find a copy of.

 

[alps26]

I have also experience the same thing. This was also present before the 34L4 update with the old gearbox. I thought this was just normal behavior but im not sure anymore. This happens more when the car is cold (cold transmission oil).

I think the occasional hard shift into 3rd is normal, mine did it in all the time I had my S3 (nearly 7 years). It did it even after changing the gearbox oil and after the 34L4 recall but the recall introduced the issue of sometimes holding 1st and 2nd gear.

Very, very rarely, it had a hard shift into 5th so I think it's something to do with the clutch pack on the odd gears. I wouldn't worry about it - mine didn't break in 7 years.

 

[S3Bang]

I think the occasional hard shift into 3rd is normal, mine did it in all the time I had my S3 (nearly 7 years). It did it even after changing the gearbox oil and after the 34L4 recall but the recall introduced the issue of sometimes holding 1st and 2nd gear.

Very, very rarely, it had a hard shift into 5th so I think it's something to do with the clutch pack on the odd gears. I wouldn't worry about it - mine didn't break in 7 years.

I also think the hard shift to 3rd is somewhat normal. Good to know that someone else is notice the same thing.

Other day the downshift did the same thing, big delay to 4th to 3rd.

 

[S3Bang]

I asked my Audi dealer about the new software version for the transmission. There is no new updates in my area so no luck there.

The problem seems to be going worse, it also did it again this morning.

Hard acceleration in Manual (Sport mode for the transimission), 1st gear stuck in. It goes all the way to the redline and it holds the gear about 5-10 seconds. Nothing you can do then.

Little bit scare to floor it anymore.

I cant see any other way to fix this annoying issue than buy the TVS dsg remap. I was planning to do that and the ECU tune but not this quick.

 

[iambash]

Came across this thread by coincidence, but glad I did because now I know why my car hangs occasionally hangs on to 1st and 2nd gear for so long even with only a slight throttle pressure, then it throws the car back and forward aggressively. It's got the TCU update.

Hi Wayne, have you found a resolution to this issue? I am having the same issues after the 34L4 update.

 

[iambash]

I asked my Audi dealer about the new software version for the transmission. There is no new updates in my area so no luck there.

The problem seems to be going worse, it also did it again this morning.

Hard acceleration in Manual (Sport mode for the transimission), 1st gear stuck in. It goes all the way to the redline and it holds the gear about 5-10 seconds. Nothing you can do then.

Little bit scare to floor it anymore.

I cant see any other way to fix this annoying issue than buy the TVS dsg remap. I was planning to do that and the ECU tune but not this quick.

I asked my Audi dealer about the new software version for the transmission. There is no new updates in my area so no luck there.

The problem seems to be going worse, it also did it again this morning.

Hard acceleration in Manual (Sport mode for the transimission), 1st gear stuck in. It goes all the way to the redline and it holds the gear about 5-10 seconds. Nothing you can do then.

Little bit scare to floor it anymore.

I cant see any other way to fix this annoying issue than buy the TVS dsg remap. I was planning to do that and the ECU tune but not this quick.

Hi mate, have you found a resolution to the gear being stuck for a few seconds? It’s happening to me after the 34L4 update I had a few weeks ago.

 

[iambash]

I think the occasional hard shift into 3rd is normal, mine did it in all the time I had my S3 (nearly 7 years). It did it even after changing the gearbox oil and after the 34L4 recall but the recall introduced the issue of sometimes holding 1st and 2nd gear.

Very, very rarely, it had a hard shift into 5th so I think it's something to do with the clutch pack on the odd gears. I wouldn't worry about it - mine didn't break in 7 years.

Hi, have you find a fix for the gear holding 1st and 2nd for a few seconds after the 34L4 recall update?

 

[stubbly46]

It is possible to have the update rolled back by a specialist or have the tcu remapped by a mapping company. TVS do an update that makes it very smooth but it’s not cheap.

 

[iambash]

It is possible to have the update rolled back by a specialist or have the tcu remapped by a mapping company. TVS do an update that makes it very smooth but it’s not cheap.

Can you recommend any specialist to have the update rolled back? Would this involve flashing the tcu back to the old software?

 

[stubbly46]

Can you recommend any specialist to have the update rolled back? Would this involve flashing the tcu back to the old software?

It would mean reinstalling the previous software. Check yswretrofits.co.uk

 

[iambash]

It would mean reinstalling the previous software. Check yswretrofits.co.uk

Thank you.

 

[stubbly46]

Thank you.

Or NR Coding who is Manchester based and very good.

 

[WayneB]

Hi Wayne, have you found a resolution to this issue? I am having the same issues after the 34L4 update.

Yeah I got a company local to me called phantom tuning to put their map on it. Works well now and changes gear much faster. £250.

 

[iambash]

Yeah I got a company local to me called phantom tuning to put their map on it. Works well now and changes gear much faster. £250.

Thanks for responding Wayne. Is that a custom remap or a flash to an older oem software?

 

[WayneB]

It's a custom map.

It increases torque limiter
Changes gear at 1800rpm in drive mode
Changes gear at 3200rpm in sport
Faster reactive gear changes when dropping down gear.

It's a little better than stock but it has solved that holding the revs issue.

I was going to go for the stage 2+ from some other company but by the time I have spent a fortune on upgrades etc, I may as well have just got an rs3.