its not 63 as that's a focus ST. This race was my second last and I got 11.7 @122mph
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its not 63 as that's a focus ST. This race was my second last and I got 11.7 @122mph
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Brilliant!I honestly think your car is being strangled by that Eventuri ( the filter housing itself is tiny) Just a sneaky suspicion. If it were me I’d be logging vcds and testing both on the Vbox.
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I haven’t even mentioned the 12 inches of rollout on the start line you can take advantage of yet
Out of interest why do you want to wait for the switchable map option and not use MRC?
All this drag strip talk has got me wanting to map mine...
Looks like the new website is full of glitches. When you click on your 11.7 run, it should come up with who you raced against but it doesn’t, it defaults to a race between a Volvo and a Honda. How frustrating. The old website was so much cleaner and easier to navigate.
@Doc, MRC’s option wouldn’t allow me to run race fuel adapted. I’d need to run 2 MRC ECU’s to run 99 and Race fuel maps. APR will be switchable by the cruise control stalk to flip between 99 and Race.
If you read the APR blurb, the difference between 99 and their E85 file is about half a second difference. There’s that and also the distance to MRC and back, 850 mile round trip whereas the APR dealer is about 150 mile round trip. I’ve always had MRC maps too so time to try something different.
Was keeping a very close eye on Billy’s times yesterday too but he’s went along for the fun of it and is obviously not fussed about the times carrying passenger etc. That’s fair enough but doesn’t prove the car or tune at this stage either. I think if he had posted a stonking quick time yesterday I could have been tempted to head back down to Banbury but will see what happens over the next few months. Really dissapointed in APR, they released that 10.5 time before I even had the car back in October. It’s now near enough April and still no release.
Anyway, as long as you had fun Billy that’s the main thing, first time I went to the dragstrip I wasn’t fussed at all by times either. It does get addictive tho haha.
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Well done for posting the vids up Billy. The car was not too bad compared to the others on the day and given the conditions. It looks like there is opportunity to run with adjusted tyre pressures, lower fuel levels, no passenger and maybe even switch the air con off too next time (I see it was left on in the vid).
I bet the guy in the RS6 was surprised!
Cheers mate. Well he knew what it was capable off as he pulled me up in the que before hand and was speaking away to me and asked if I wanted to race. And while we were side by side in the que for our race a car leaked oil on the strip so qued for about 45 minutes speaking away. Genuine car guy and was really sound. Came and shook my hand after race and told me how nice the car was. Most people after getting beat would be ***** and negative. And we ended up leaving at the same time which was dangerous but great fun for about 20 minutes on the country roads away from crail. Wish my go pro had not died because it would have been some great footage!
Just realised the best time the 631bhp huracan performante got was a 10.8 and even one at 11.3 so something was not the best on that day.
A GTR got a 12.0 and a 12.1 so speed traps must have been off a tad or conditions were too cold.
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Defo something up with the strip when my stock car is running this, albeit with the vbox and not at the drag strip.
Huracan time looks normal there, 10.8 is a good time and 132mph is about right for a 600hp car at Huracan weight.
It’s basically an Audi R8 V10+.
GTR’s often get high 11’s and 12’s at Crail, not unusual.
Stage 2 Audi RS7 was the quickest of the day @ 10.7 which is a normal time for that car. Stage 1 Golf R @ 11.8, again a normal expected time.
You need to know what is normal for different cars and what the exit speeds are telling you.
The time itself tells you how well the cars launched. The exit speeds tell you how much bhp the cars have got. For example, M5’s May get poor times at 13+ but will have fast exit speeds, this tells you that they struggle on launch (to be expected being rwd) but then start hammering it down the strip and gains speed quickly by the time they cross the beams.
It’s not all about the times, exit speeds are very important too. M5’s for example are poor on a 1/4m but would destroy a half mile or a mile track. Golf R’s and RS3’s and the like destroy a 1/4m track but would struggle more on a half mile or mile track when bigger power cars get in their stride.
You can see it in your RS6 video. The RS6 is reeling you back in pretty sharpish. If that track had been longer, it would have pulled off into the distance after that 1/4. BHP essentially wins outright. A dragstrip can give a false sense of a cars performance. A Golf R would be destroyed on the road by an M5 but on a standard 1/4m track, the Golf R would easily beat the M5.
Also, as a newbie you may think that a 10.8 car is close to an 11.8 car and an 11.8 car is close to a 12.8 car and so on. Nope, not even close in the slightest. A 1sec difference is huge in drag racing.
Time is also very hard to improve on. Think about it.
11.8 @ 120mph vs 10.8@132mph. The cars would not even be remotely close. What time is the 10.8 car doing at 120mph for example, 9secs? (so that’s 9secs 0-120 vs 11.8 secs 0-120)
To cut tenths you need to add mph’s so improvements working both ways. Increase speed and decrease tenths.
Understanding drag racing can be pretty complicated.
It’s basically an Audi R8 V10+.
GTR’s often get high 11’s and 12’s at Crail, not unusual.
Stage 2 Audi RS7 was the quickest of the day @ 10.7 which is a normal time for that car. Stage 1 Golf R @ 11.8, again a normal expected time.
You need to know what is normal for different cars and what the exit speeds are telling you.
The time itself tells you how well the cars launched. The exit speeds tell you how much bhp the cars have got. For example, M5’s May get poor times at 13+ but will have fast exit speeds, this tells you that they struggle on launch (to be expected being rwd) but then start hammering it down the strip and gains speed quickly by the time they cross the beams.
It’s not all about the times, exit speeds are very important too. M5’s for example are poor on a 1/4m but would destroy a half mile or a mile track. Golf R’s and RS3’s and the like destroy a 1/4m track but would struggle more on a half mile or mile track when bigger power cars get in their stride.
You can see it in your RS6 video. The RS6 is reeling you back in pretty sharpish. If that track had been longer, it would have pulled off into the distance after that 1/4. BHP essentially wins outright. A dragstrip can give a false sense of a cars performance. A Golf R would be destroyed on the road by an M5 but on a standard 1/4m track, the Golf R would easily beat the M5.
Also, as a newbie you may think that a 10.8 car is close to an 11.8 car and an 11.8 car is close to a 12.8 car and so on. Nope, not even close in the slightest. A 1sec difference is huge in drag racing.
Time is also very hard to improve on. Think about it.
11.8 @ 120mph vs 10.8@132mph. The cars would not even be remotely close. What time is the 10.8 car doing at 120mph for example, 9secs? (so that’s 9secs 0-120 vs 11.8 secs 0-120)
To cut tenths you need to add mph’s so improvements working both ways. Increase speed and decrease tenths.
Understanding drag racing can be pretty complicated.
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U had fun i see its good, my opinion u have only need one clean run for your records
In few weeks getting my stage 1 then we have drag event .
With this new light wheels car is monster i got 0-60mph 3.37 sec corrected
100-200kmh 9.0 sec
1/4 mile 11.65 sec
Cant wait to see numbers on stage 1
But on 500Hp + it should have been under 11 sec
My Golf 7 R with 470Hp/ 595Nm did 10.9 sec 127 Mph
In few weeks getting my stage 1 then we have drag event .
With this new light wheels car is monster i got 0-60mph 3.37 sec corrected
100-200kmh 9.0 sec
1/4 mile 11.65 sec
Cant wait to see numbers on stage 1
But on 500Hp + it should have been under 11 sec
My Golf 7 R with 470Hp/ 595Nm did 10.9 sec 127 Mph
Well my car must be standard, MRC must have bumped me
Loool , 2 perosns and as i see on slips very bad 60 ft thats most important for good time. Clean run with good grip will be interesting. Put some vbox and do some 0-60mph and 62-125mph times so we see real power .
Like u said u had fun thats important , few us here are time freak i will go to colonoscopy before dragevent to be lighter if i need hahahahahhah
I wonder if odd tires would make much of a difference. As I hit a pothole I changed the front passenger side tire.
Front passenger tire brand new Michelin PS4S
Front drivers P zero 3700 miles
Front passenger tire brand new Michelin PS4S
Front drivers P zero 3700 miles
Deff not good, different wear and maybe causing problem in quattro resulting more spin. All 4tyres same profile u need for awd to operate proper .
Change at least passanger tire asap
Well my car must be standard, MRC must have bumped me
Well its either the car or the driver
As this was your first time and you're inexperienced with drag racing and don't really know how it all works (1. You thought reaction time counted in your times, 1sec reaction time off your 11.8 = 10.8. No, just no 
2. You think you beat the RS6 because you crossed over the finish line first but dont understand how he beat you on the clock, 3. You don't understand the relationship between 60ft/ET, Terminal speeds and bhp )That's not a dig at you Billy but just shows that you're a newbie to the game. For example, many that tune their cars go off their exit speeds in a 1/4 mile to determine their bhp over what a dyno will tell them. As you know, results vary from dyno to dyno, those that are into car tuning and drag racing will use the vbox (Performance box) and visit the drag strip and analyse drag strip times to determine what a car is doing power wise.
As I said in a previous post, drag racing is not about racing the guy beside you, it's about racing the clock. As a newbie, of course, the initial novelty is about racing the guy beside you but as you get more experienced you'll then gather its about racing the clock, reaction time then becoming irrelevant.
Crail on Sunday was running okay, believe me, getting a good dry sunny day at Crail is difficult to come by over the year.
Stage 1 375bhp Golf R = 11.8 (Bang on the money)
Standard RS6 = 11.4 (Have seen them do 11.2-11.3 so slightly slower than normal)
Liam Bryce's 550bhp S3 = 10.9 (Have seen him do 10.7 so slightly slower than normal)
Huracan = 10.8 (Expected time thereabouts, possibly 10.6 on a good day)
Stage 2 RS7 = 10.7 (Seen that car do a 10.6 previously)
Your RS3 = 11.6 (Way off expected pace)
As the day was so busy, tyres were getting cold and heatsoak from waiting in the queues probably affected times a little so no doubts on a quieter day, a tenth might come off those times.
No doubts, you're probably not listening to me now as I appear to have burst your bubble a little bit but 11.6 is not a good time Billy, no matter what way you look at it. A 375bhp Golf R recorded an 11.8 (which was around your average for the day) and he's about 135bhp down on you.
I recorded an 11.3 @ 122mph with 425bhp 6yrs ago. If my car had 510bhp, I suspect I would have been very close to the 10's in that car.
MRC haven't bumped you but when you run with passengers and record 1.9 60fts then that's your fault, not theirs. The car and tune are only part of the time, the driver and experience is another part.
I was looking very closely at your times on Sunday thinking low 11's high 10's but was way off the mark with that estimation. To me anyway, your car when you remove the passenger and launch well, may get you down to 11.2-11.3 but can't see it getting anywhere near the 10's. Believe me when I say, tenths of a second are very hard to come off, you need to decrease tenths but increase mph over the same distance.
Just for reference, here is a video of my old car on a Stage 1 tune (400) racing a friends TTS on a Stage 1 tune (320) On this particular run...
TTRS 11.7 @ 120mph
TTS 13.2 @ 110mph
1.5secs might not seem a lot when you view the figures like 13.2 vs 11.7 but look at the difference over the course of just 402 metres, I put about 3 artic lorry lengths on him.
There's plenty you can do with tyre pressures, tyre temps, cooling times, launch control release times, rollout, weight, fuel etc.
Some advice Billy, listen to the constructive criticism, I'm actually trying to help you here, the more you know about how to do it properly, the quicker your car will be and the better the time slips will be
I've already mentioned troubleshooting the Eventuri vs your standard airbox. I think Doug also mentioned this? Try get yourself a vbox (Performance box) and do some of your own testing.
Good luck and I hope to see you crack the times your car should be capable of soon
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Well its either the car or the driver
That's not a dig at you Billy but just shows that you're a newbie to the game. For example, many that tune their cars go off their exit speeds in a 1/4 mile to determine their bhp over what a dyno will tell them. As you know, results vary from dyno to dyno, those that are into car tuning and drag racing will use the vbox (Performance box) and visit the drag strip and analyse drag strip times to determine what a car is doing power wise.
As I said in a previous post, drag racing is not about racing the guy beside you, it's about racing the clock. As a newbie, of course, the initial novelty is about racing the guy beside you but as you get more experienced you'll then gather its about racing the clock, reaction time then becoming irrelevant.
Crail on Sunday was running okay, believe me, getting a good dry sunny day at Crail is difficult to come by over the year.
Stage 1 375bhp Golf R = 11.8 (Bang on the money)
Standard RS6 = 11.4 (Have seen them do 11.2-11.3 so slightly slower than normal)
Liam Bryce's 550bhp S3 = 10.9 (Have seen him do 10.7 so slightly slower than normal)
Huracan = 10.8 (Expected time thereabouts, possibly 10.6 on a good day)
Stage 2 RS7 = 10.7 (Seen that car do a 10.6 previously)
Your RS3 = 11.6 (Way off expected pace)
As the day was so busy, tyres were getting cold and heatsoak from waiting in the queues probably affected times a little so no doubts on a quieter day, a tenth might come off those times.
No doubts, you're probably not listening to me now as I appear to have burst your bubble a little bit but 11.6 is not a good time Billy, no matter what way you look at it. A 375bhp Golf R recorded an 11.8 (which was around your average for the day) and he's about 135bhp down on you.
I recorded an 11.3 @ 122mph with 425bhp 6yrs ago. If my car had 510bhp, I suspect I would have been very close to the 10's in that car.
MRC haven't bumped you but when you run with passengers and record 1.9 60fts then that's your fault, not theirs. The car and tune are only part of the time, the driver and experience is another part.
I was looking very closely at your times on Sunday thinking low 11's high 10's but was way off the mark with that estimation. To me anyway, your car when you remove the passenger and launch well, may get you down to 11.2-11.3 but can't see it getting anywhere near the 10's. Believe me when I say, tenths of a second are very hard to come off, you need to decrease tenths but increase mph over the same distance.
Just for reference, here is a video of my old car on a Stage 1 tune (400) racing a friends TTS on a Stage 1 tune (320) On this particular run...
TTRS 11.7 @ 120mph
TTS 13.2 @ 110mph
1.5secs might not seem a lot when you view the figures like 13.2 vs 11.7 but look at the difference over the course of just 402 metres, I put about 3 artic lorry lengths on him.
There's plenty you can do with tyre pressures, tyre temps, cooling times, launch control release times, rollout, weight, fuel etc.
Some advice Billy, listen to the constructive criticism, I'm actually trying to help you here, the more you know about how to do it properly, the quicker your car will be and the better the time slips will be
I've already mentioned troubleshooting the Eventuri vs your standard airbox. I think Doug also mentioned this? Try get yourself a vbox (Performance box) and do some of your own testing.
Good luck and I hope to see you crack the times your car should be capable of soon
I never once said it was my first time. You just jumped to that conclusion, although I do admit I am a newbie to it. Yes I see what your saying and I know I could have lost the passenger and lowered the tire pressures but i was not bothered about that.
You say it’s the driver. How can anyone make it any different without making changes which I knew I could have but chose not to.
Weather it was me, you or a 90 year old granny. Pushing a pedal flat to the floor and holding the steering wheel straight won’t get you a better time saying how the RT don’t make a difference.
Not as if I’m cornering or changing gears......
How long were you holding launch for Billy? Do you know about the 12 inches of rollout available? Do you know about tyre pressures vs 60ft vs exit speeds? What about cooling times? Weight and octane boosters?
For example, you're eager to race the nice GTR beside you. You line up at the lights and you activate launch control, you're holding 3500rpm, holding, holding, holding, about 15secs pass and then the lights change. Think about the heat you've just built up in your engine bay holding 3500rpm on launch for 15-20secs. The car doesn't like it either, you will often hear the engine note change.
So you forget about reaction time, you activate launch when you see the ambers (hold for 3secs max) and then release. You inevitably get away from the lights late and the other car has probably taken off but you will get a cleaner 60ft launch because of it. Rushing the launch and holding for too long will affect it. Then you play about with the tyre pressures dependent on if you felt slip or not, or if your mate watching telling you that the car snaked or the tyres smoked. You then adjust your fronts to give a bit more grip but if you let out too much air you then drop mph from your exit due to the increased rolling resistance, yes you may improve your 60ft but in turn jeopardise mph.
There's 12 inches of rollout available on the start line. Would you think that if you use this 12 inches you're inevitably 12 inches closer to the finish line and a quicker time? Or would you back up 12 inches and are essentially a further foot away from the finish line?
It really isn't all about turning up, putting your right foot flat to the floor and lift the left one and hold on. Even keeping the steering wheel perfectly straight, no steering wheel inputs if you can help it. You can do a lot more to improve things, even switching the aircon off will help
Honestly mate, I'm not having a go, I just know your car will perform better with some adjustments made .
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How long were you holding launch for Billy? Do you know about the 12 inches of rollout available? Do you know about tyre pressures vs 60ft vs exit speeds? What about cooling times? Weight and octane boosters?
For example, you're eager to race the nice GTR beside you. You line up at the lights and you activate launch control, you're holding 3500rpm, holding, holding, holding, about 15secs pass and then the lights change. Think about the heat you've just built up in your engine bay holding 3500rpm on launch for 15-20secs. The car doesn't like it either, you will often hear the engine note change.
So you forget about reaction time, you activate launch when you see the ambers (hold for 3secs max) and then release. You inevitably get away from the lights late and the other car has probably taken off but you will get a cleaner 60ft launch because of it. Rushing the launch and holding for too long will affect it. Then you play about with the tyre pressures dependent on if you felt slip or not, or if your mate watching telling you that the car snaked or the tyres smoked. You then adjust your fronts to give a bit more grip but if you let out too much air you then drop mph from your exit due to the increased rolling resistance, yes you may improve your 60ft but in turn jeopardise mph.
There's 12 inches of rollout available on the start line. Would you think that if you use this 12 inches you're inevitably 12 inches closer to the finish line and a quicker time? Or would you back up 12 inches and are essentially a further foot away from the finish line?
It really isn't all about turning up, putting your right foot flat to the floor and lift the left one and hold on. Even keeping the steering wheel perfectly straight, no steering wheel inputs if you can help it. You can do a lot more to improve things, even switching the aircon off will help
Honestly mate, I'm not having a go, I just know your car will perform better with some adjustments made .
What seems to be funny how someone can spend so much on a car and then mod it, but hasn’t got a vbox or anything similar to measure the performance gains . And when someone says the truth/or gives helpful advice the OP just ignores the post.
I didn’t ignore it, it was posted just over a hour ago. I don’t sit on this page 24 hours a day waiting on a update. And your right I don’t have a v-box. I would never pay £600+ do use it a couple times to find out my times then not use it again unless I mod my car again. No matter how much money I have. I take it you must have one then Mr Money bags
I wasn’t talking about about an instant reply,
£600+ for a vbox ? Retail on them is about £400 and Ive used one but bought myself a draggy box. Which does the same job and is only £150. No matter how much people spend on an expensive car and tune it and then won’t buy a well known and a accurate device to measure 1/4time, 0-60 etc etc is beyond belief. But they will go on a drag strip and wonder why they didn’t get the time everyone was expecting. I’m guessing Crail dragstrip must be a free to run event ?
Loool , 2 perosns and as i see on slips very bad 60 ft thats most important for good time. Clean run with good grip will be interesting. Put some vbox and do some 0-60mph and 62-125mph times so we see real power .
Like u said u had fun thats important , few us here are time freak i will go to colonoscopy before dragevent to be lighter if i need hahahahahhah
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Jeeez, give the guy a break........ he only posted up his first drag strip times for his tuned car and posted it up for other forum members to see. You can see from his video that he had a passenger filming and didn't go armed with all the usual little tricks to generate the fastest possible time (stripping out seats and adding octane booster etc). It was just a fun day out I guess. Isn't it obvious that he was not looking to wring every last tenth out of the car, and to be fair, it was the other forum posters that suggested expected results ( and including myself on that list - sorry Billy).
Vbox does come in at around £400 and I suppose it is pretty expensive for what it is but you can also get the vbox sport at £300 or a new product has now hit the market in the Draggy GPS race timer at £150.
Over the long term, the outlay pays for itself and they hold the majority of their value to sell on. You could well spend £60 a time on a dyno session chasing horsepower or chasing your tail looking for a problem that doesn't exist (If the readings are low) - No such issues with a vbox, your car either performs or it doesn't, takes the unreliable dyno out of the equation.
We all know dyno results vary wildly, one can tell you you're losing a load of power making you look for problems that don't exist and others are overly enthusiastic giving you inflated figures. Strap a vbox to the car and you will know straight away whether that change has had a positive or negative effect. I've already mentioned Billy's Eventuri, that cost you what Billy? £13,14,1500? You could have bought a vbox, a VCDS cable, a laptop and an uprated intake pipe and filter and probably got to the same result (or better) - If you had a vbox for example, you could switch out the Eventuri intake for the stock and test, you would then know if that expensive intake is working well or not. You have a very good strong Stage 2 setup on paper but the dyno charts and then the dragstrip times never really produced the numbers that some other tuners are achieving.
It's just another way of ensuring you're getting your moneys worth that's all.
Saying all that, all this talk is getting serious in respects to wringing every last bhp and hundredth of a second out of the car and to be honest, that's probably not you at all. You've gone along for the fun with your mates, not really bothered about setting benchmarks or records and I'm harping on about pinching 12 inches at the dragstrip, tyre pressures and launch control timing techniques
Apologies Billy, thread hijack, just go and enjoy your car and forget about the dragstrip talk, the times will come in future if you end up chasing tenths
. I do have to remember that not everyone is as anal as I am when it comes to this kind of thing 
Over the long term, the outlay pays for itself and they hold the majority of their value to sell on. You could well spend £60 a time on a dyno session chasing horsepower or chasing your tail looking for a problem that doesn't exist (If the readings are low) - No such issues with a vbox, your car either performs or it doesn't, takes the unreliable dyno out of the equation.
We all know dyno results vary wildly, one can tell you you're losing a load of power making you look for problems that don't exist and others are overly enthusiastic giving you inflated figures. Strap a vbox to the car and you will know straight away whether that change has had a positive or negative effect. I've already mentioned Billy's Eventuri, that cost you what Billy? £13,14,1500? You could have bought a vbox, a VCDS cable, a laptop and an uprated intake pipe and filter and probably got to the same result (or better) - If you had a vbox for example, you could switch out the Eventuri intake for the stock and test, you would then know if that expensive intake is working well or not. You have a very good strong Stage 2 setup on paper but the dyno charts and then the dragstrip times never really produced the numbers that some other tuners are achieving.
It's just another way of ensuring you're getting your moneys worth that's all.
Saying all that, all this talk is getting serious in respects to wringing every last bhp and hundredth of a second out of the car and to be honest, that's probably not you at all. You've gone along for the fun with your mates, not really bothered about setting benchmarks or records and I'm harping on about pinching 12 inches at the dragstrip, tyre pressures and launch control timing techniques
Apologies Billy, thread hijack, just go and enjoy your car and forget about the dragstrip talk, the times will come in future if you end up chasing tenths
. I do have to remember that not everyone is as anal as I am when it comes to this kind of thing
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Vbox does come in at around £400 and I suppose it is pretty expensive for what it is but you can also get the vbox sport at £300 or a new product has now hit the market in the Draggy GPS race timer at £150.
Over the long term, the outlay pays for itself and they hold the majority of their value to sell on. You could well spend £60 a time on a dyno session chasing horsepower or chasing your tail looking for a problem that doesn't exist (If the readings are low) - No such issues with a vbox, your car either performs or it doesn't, takes the unreliable dyno out of the equation.
We all know dyno results vary wildly, one can tell you you're losing a load of power making you look for problems that don't exist and others are overly enthusiastic giving you inflated figures. Strap a vbox to the car and you will know straight away whether that change has had a positive or negative effect. I've already mentioned Billy's Eventuri, that cost you what Billy? £13,14,1500? You could have bought a vbox, a VCDS cable, a laptop and an uprated intake pipe and filter and probably got to the same result (or better) - If you had a vbox for example, you could switch out the Eventuri intake for the stock and test, you would then know if that expensive intake is working well or not. You have a very good strong Stage 2 setup on paper but the dyno charts and then the dragstrip times never really produced the numbers that some other tuners are achieving.
It's just another way of ensuring you're getting your moneys worth that's all.
Saying all that, all this talk is getting serious in respects to wringing every last bhp and hundredth of a second out of the car and to be honest, that's probably not you at all. You've gone along for the fun with your mates, not really bothered about setting benchmarks or records and I'm harping on about pinching 12 inches at the dragstrip, tyre pressures and launch control timing techniques
Apologies Billy, thread hijack, just go and enjoy your car and forget about the dragstrip talk, the times will come in future if you end up chasing tenths
It looks like the website is back to normal. When I click on my races it tells me who I’m racing. Apart from my race with the stage 1 rs3. Number 603. Very strange. That will be why he is not listed on the top performers on 2.5s
I’ve noticed 2 other RS6s that were there are 600 numbers too so must be a meaning for it. Also what does SK stand for? Is it a class type?
Yep, all new to me Billy, they've changed things around this year. New lights, new website, new class types etc, not sure what the 600+ numbers mean either, never seen that before.
Vbox does come in at around £400 and I suppose it is pretty expensive for what it is but you can also get the vbox sport at £300 or a new product has now hit the market in the Draggy GPS race timer at £150.
Over the long term, the outlay pays for itself and they hold the majority of their value to sell on. You could well spend £60 a time on a dyno session chasing horsepower or chasing your tail looking for a problem that doesn't exist (If the readings are low) - No such issues with a vbox, your car either performs or it doesn't, takes the unreliable dyno out of the equation.
We all know dyno results vary wildly, one can tell you you're losing a load of power making you look for problems that don't exist and others are overly enthusiastic giving you inflated figures. Strap a vbox to the car and you will know straight away whether that change has had a positive or negative effect. I've already mentioned Billy's Eventuri, that cost you what Billy? £13,14,1500? You could have bought a vbox, a VCDS cable, a laptop and an uprated intake pipe and filter and probably got to the same result (or better) - If you had a vbox for example, you could switch out the Eventuri intake for the stock and test, you would then know if that expensive intake is working well or not. You have a very good strong Stage 2 setup on paper but the dyno charts and then the dragstrip times never really produced the numbers that some other tuners are achieving.
It's just another way of ensuring you're getting your moneys worth that's all.
Saying all that, all this talk is getting serious in respects to wringing every last bhp and hundredth of a second out of the car and to be honest, that's probably not you at all. You've gone along for the fun with your mates, not really bothered about setting benchmarks or records and I'm harping on about pinching 12 inches at the dragstrip, tyre pressures and launch control timing techniques
Apologies Billy, thread hijack, just go and enjoy your car and forget about the dragstrip talk, the times will come in future if you end up chasing tenths
Atleast someone else on this forum has the same mindset as me .
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......wouldn't it be a boring forum if we all had the same mindset....thankfully we have all sorts!
......wouldn't it be a boring forum if we all had the same mindset....thankfully we have all sorts!
Imagine what we could achieve if we all did have the same mindset
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......it would most likely be a very 'beige' and boring existence. The type of world control freaks would love.
......it would most likely be a very 'beige' and boring existence. The type of world control freaks would love.
Seems like you just described the state of our current existence.
But let’s not get into world affairs shall we.
@AudiNutta thought id update you as it seems your just as eager as me. Milltek is running behind schedule AGAIN......... Every product they have released for this car has been late!
Now saying they are not looking to dispatch products to dealers until early/mid April. I go back offshore 11th April for 3 weeks so not looking like ill have it fitted till I return Not sure if anyone else has one on order and will have it fitted before me?
Now saying they are not looking to dispatch products to dealers until early/mid April. I go back offshore 11th April for 3 weeks so not looking like ill have it fitted till I return
Not sure if anyone else has one on order and will have it fitted before me?
Hi Shawn!Seems like you just described the state of our current existence.
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