The price of the APR kit + ancillaries + mapping + labour + internals is close to the kit price of the NRS offering. Perhaps a little less, but still wrung out to the ragged edge of the turbo and the top end is lacking compared to the 30 series even one with a smaller A/R.
It seems you need WMI and 99 RON etc to get the most out of it. The amount of torque it produces on 99 RON with WMI would be borderline on stock rods and my logic is if you have to open it up to put rods/and pistons in you may as well do that and run a slightly bigger turbo which isn't struggling with sustaining boost levels at the top.
Statllers are achieving 550hp without WMI using modified S3/Golf R injectors and admittedly some custom parts APR can't provide - It is pretty impressive really. I draw the line at a custom ecu and 8 injectors. I just feel for the money the APR kit is, it's not as attractive as it was when it was first released. Back then it was pretty much the only off the shelf hardware + software kit.
I haven't spoken to DeckedS3 directly - But I've seen threads and that hes happy with the performance since the DSG swap and custom DSG map, No doubt the APR kit is fast I just want something in between that and yours and the Nortech kit with a 30 series of some description fits the bill nicely.
Agreed.
The APR kit does rely on WMI etc to max it out,but it would be expected running the smaller turbo.
I've seen the modified S3/Golf R inejctors,and some pretty extravagant claims in terms of bhp/flow capacity,but as 550bhp is just about do-able on RS4 injectors,there is no reason why modified S3 injectors couldnt do the same.
It's good that the 8P is snot only still being supported,but more and more kits are coming to the market,not only from Nortech,but from the likes of IE etc as well.
With both of those you know you'll get good quality parts,made to last.
When we first got going on this there was either the now defunct BSH kit(with all the problems modifying it for RHD) or the ATP kit I eventually bought,but even that had fitting issues,and that was the market in total.
I'm sure you'll be very pleased with the Nortech kit,and with the level of support from the guys at Nortech themselves.
Having shifted to the Nortech kit,I wish that such quality was around a few yrs back,and we've pretty much stretched it to the limits that Nortech envisaged by fitting and running a 3582....they'd designed it with a 3576 in mind,so we added a bit,and used a Tial exhaust housing to be sure.
if I put parts on "just in case" I'll be forced to get the maximum by just knowing there is more hiding under the bonnet lol
