Dilemma 150 cod vs 150 tdi

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I currently have a 1.4 122ps two year old A3 sport back sline.

After a change of address I'm now doing 10k plus miles a year.

I want the same car (love spec and model) but with more power and better fuel consumption. Both the 1.4 cod and the two litre 150 diesel provide this. I've test drove both and prefer the overall feel of the cod but I do like the midrange power of the diesel.

My dilemma is that I can get the 150 diesel in 2-3 weeks in the spec I want but have to wait until September/October for the 1.4 cod. Also the diesel is working out £1! a month cheaper. Yes big deal but it is worth £1500 more and I've heard has better residuals so the monthly fee is good for a
more expensive car on PCP. I plan to keep the car for 2-3 years.

I do prefer the overall feel of the COD but not sure money wise 0.4 of a second to 60 is worth it in the long run. I'll also point out that I've never owned a diesel so it worries me a little.

Thoughts and any advice appreciated.

Cheers :)
 
I have a 2 year old 2L Tdi and I am looking at changing so had a similar issue. I had a test drive of the cod and was really impressed by the quietness of the engine, the power and the speed. I dont live near motorways so most of it is stop start style, shortish journeys and the diesel feels a bit sluggish and slow at times as the power comes a bit later once you get going.
Only disadvantages I can find is in winter it takes a long time to warm up and fuel consumption isn't that great in winter for a diesel on 14 mile trips.
Im thinking of going for the cod as i just loved the engine in it and the fuel consumption isn't much different for my style of journeys. Rather enjoy the car more than worry about a few pennies.
 
In my opinion it's all down to mileage for me. I've just ordered a 2.0 Tdi 150 as I do about 20,000 a year. If I did less would defo have had the petrol. Your choice.
 
I went from a 1.8T A4 to a current A4 2.0 tdi and i have to say I don't like the diesel. It's a great cruiser, has plenty of torque and is quick, BUT around town I don't like the way it drive's, it feels sluggish and heavy. It has such tall gearing that you are constantly changing gear.
We have a diesel and 1.4 petrol A1 in the family and I feel the same with these.
It really is down to you.
I took months before ordering my S3 (which I pick up in 2 days), and I swung from 1.8 petrol, to 2.0tdi 184 quattro to S3.
In the end It had to petrol
 
Hi mate, I bought the 2.0tdi but I came from Ford diesels so new what to expect. Plenty of low down grunt and even though it's only the 150ps it can still stick a grin on my face. How it compares I can't say because I didn't even look at the petrol. Tank range is so good I have to remind myself how to use a pump for the next fill. Add to that I've covered 15k miles in 14months, it's not drunk a drop of oil and the service isn't due for another 3000miles. You gotta love that. The only down side is I'm conscious of the DPF on short journeys. I work only a few miles from home but need the car at the office. Some weeks it may just do the short run. Oddly, and on premium BP fuel, I have little or no DPF overrun. On tesco however it does it almost every trip. I've only had the warning symbol once! It's a real gem of a car. It is said, many short journey's suit the petrol and long runs the oil burner. I thinks that's pretty true and at 10k a year your deffo in petrol territory.
 
I've got the 150 tdi and really like it. I probably don't do diesel miles but I've never had a problem in 10k miles with the dpf. The mid-range power is good and still puts a smile on my face on the twisty bits. I do believe that residuals are better then the petrol variant and mpg is very good.
 
You say you're doing 10,000 miles, but what kind of miles are you doing?

Personally, I was borderline between petrol and diesel at 20,000 miles so I'd more than likely go petrol at 10,000 miles. Particularly if the miles are stop-start and short journeys.
 
Petrol = low mileage, around town, occasional long runs
Diesel = long runs or medium, high mileage
Petrol, more fun to drive, diesel like mpg, quieter
 
The Petrol restart from Auto Stop Start is smoother than the Diesel one
 
cuke2u said:
Petrol = low mileage, around town, occasional long runs
Diesel = long runs or medium, high mileage
Petrol, more fun to drive, diesel like mpg, quieter
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And for just these reasons I've just ordered the cod. Have to be honest I didn't get to test drive the COD in saloon form but from what all the reviews say, I'm sure I will be pretty happy.
 
I done exactly the same change (122 1.4 TFSI to 2.0 TDI) 2 years ago and no regretted it at all.


I would not worry about owning a diesel, Some people worry about DPF regeneration if they do lots of short journeys but this does not seem to be a problem for you.

Your financials point you to the 2.0TDI, and running costs will be slightly lower

Performance wise you will still see an improvement with the diesel in standing start and particularly with in gear acceleration

Finally, if you can get it in 2-3 weeks that's got to be the clincher.

I also assume you are currently in an 8P in which case you will love the 8V even more, as I did.

Alternatively, you could buy my 2.0TDI in a months time when I get my S3 :greyrs4:
 
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I's silly that in the UK we always have this debate about whether to buy a petrol or diesel because of the extra cost of buying diesel at the pumps. When I was in France/Belgium/Holland a couple of weeks ago Diesel was 20-25p/litre CHEAPER that Petrol, so no matter how many miles you drive in a year, Diesel will always works out cheaper because you get more mpg and it's cheaper to buy. Why does it have to be the other way round in the UK.
 
WillC8 said:
And for just these reasons I've just ordered the cod. Have to be honest I didn't get to test drive the COD in saloon form but from what all the reviews say, I'm sure I will be pretty happy.
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You won't go wrong with the saloon with any engine, in sline trim it is a fantastic looking car and will stand out amongst all the hatchbacks as being something rather special. But then I am biased...
 
Daveotto said:
I done exactly the same change (122 1.4 TFSI to 2.0 TDI) 2 years ago and no regretted it at all.


I would not worry about owning a diesel, Some people worry about DPF regeneration if they do lots of short journeys but this does not seem to be a problem for you.

Your financials point you to the 2.0TDI, and running costs will be slightly lower

Performance wise you will still see an improvement with the diesel in standing start and particularly with in gear acceleration

Finally, if you can get it in 2-3 weeks that's got to be the clincher.

I also assume you are currently in an 8P in which case you will love the 8V even more, as I did.

Alternatively, you could buy my 2.0TDI in a months time when I get my S3 :greyrs4:
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I see I'm not the only one wanting to leap from the 2.0tdi into the S3
 
There should be a big smiley face on the end of post #16 but clearly I haven't been very active on here and don't know what I'm doing :)
Good luck to the OP with the change whichever way you chose to go, and good luck to @Daveotto with the upgrade. Hopefully, I won't be too far behind you
 
cuke2u said:
You won't go wrong with the saloon with any engine, in sline trim it is a fantastic looking car and will stand out amongst all the hatchbacks as being something rather special. But then I am biased...
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I'm looking forward to finding out, seems we have similar tastes, i've nearly ordered the exact same spec as you, but skimped on the Advance Key andTech pack and went SD instead with ACC + ***.
 
h5djr said:
I's silly that in the UK we always have this debate about whether to buy a petrol or diesel because of the extra cost of buying diesel at the pumps. When I was in France/Belgium/Holland a couple of weeks ago Diesel was 20-25p/litre CHEAPER that Petrol, so no matter how many miles you drive in a year, Diesel will always works out cheaper because you get more mpg and it's cheaper to buy. Why does it have to be the other way round in the UK.
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It's our crappy government. 20 years ago diesel was hardly used in cars and it was cheap as chips. Look at it now. Everyone went for diesel due to emissions on company cars so all they did was hike up the price of diesel once everyone was driving them
 
lgooch said:
It's our crappy government. 20 years ago diesel was hardly used in cars and it was cheap as chips. Look at it now. Everyone went for diesel due to emissions on company cars so all they did was hike up the price of diesel once everyone was driving them
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And in the future petrol will become much higher in price than diesel as diesel is now responsible for poor air pollution. The Government will make the changes in the next few years.
Trust......
 
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h5djr said:
I's silly that in the UK we always have this debate about whether to buy a petrol or diesel because of the extra cost of buying diesel at the pumps. When I was in France/Belgium/Holland a couple of weeks ago Diesel was 20-25p/litre CHEAPER that Petrol, so no matter how many miles you drive in a year, Diesel will always works out cheaper because you get more mpg and it's cheaper to buy. Why does it have to be the other way round in the UK.
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Just come back from the US and petrol is $2.45 for a US gallon, I was there last July and it was $3.60, so a third cheaper in a year.
Our petrol/diesel has crept up recently but it's not in the US.
Typical Greedy UK businesses.
 
Having come from a diesel (admittedly not an Audi) I went for the 1.4COD and the smoothness and quietness of this engine keeps amazing me. I do well under 8,000 miles a year in the A3 so mileage was not an issue. I have just done Luton to Leicester and the DIS said 51.4mpg which for a petrol car is surely pretty good. And with the future environmental downer on diesel for health reasons plus the potential DPF problems, I'm glad I went petrol. .
 
I've just driven from Essex to Crewe non stop averaging 77 ish MPH and got 58mpg and no ache in the ****. Love this car!!! You can't really go wrong either way
 
I think what's pushing me towards the diesel is the 2 week wait time and the fact I'm getting a car worth £1500 more for a smaller monthly payment which I hope stands me in good stead in 2-3 years time. I'm well aware the 1.4 cod is the better engine.
 
Anyone who's done PCP can you tell me if I'll be better off trading the diesel in 2-3 years?
 
Had mine 5 weeks. I'll let you know in 3 years. :blow:
 
I'd be looking at manual 6 speed two wheel drive which is a fair bit cheaper. I'd love an S3 but don't want the high road tax, fuel and insurance payments
 
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Anyone who's done PCP can you tell me if I'll be better off trading the diesel in 2-3 years?
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Impossible to say right now. Diesels have generally had good residuals but they're in the spotlight lately with many accusations about emissions and that they're nowhere near as good for the environment as has been claimed. Combined with the massive strides petrols have taken in both efficiency and CO2 emissions in recent years, and that the government may start cracking down on diesels more, residuals could drop significantly in the next few years.

Conversely, the Audi diesels are EU6 ones which do have far lower NOx emissions than previous engines so, if levies were introduced for the more polluting models, you could find demand for EU6 engines goes up and that bolsters prices.

As I said, impossible to predict right now. FWIW I've had four diesel A3 and my current one is a petrol. Haven't looked back.
 
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