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Just had my a3's first oil change service. Not at Audi but a local vat registered Audi vw specialist. It was half the price Audi wanted to charge.

Two questions:

1. Where is the oil filter located? Went looking to see the new one and couldn't find it ha.

2. Why do Audi not provide a service booklet? They provide a digital one which I asked the guy to stamp and note a blank page but apparently charge £18 for an actual service booklet. This is the first car I will have owned that you have to PAY for a service booklet!

It just seems more crap from Audi to get you to pay their ridiculous service prices. £185 or £95 for the same service I know what I'll choose!
 
You're in the wrong section mate, either want to go to the 8P or 8V depending on the age of the car.
Callum.
 
Why do you think you need a paper service booklet. Audi service charges are also cheaper than Ford, however when you go to a main dealer to have your car serviced you will always pay more because the hourly rate is higher.
 
cuke2u said:
Why do you think you need a paper service booklet. Audi service charges are also cheaper than Ford, however when you go to a main dealer to have your car serviced you will always pay more because the hourly rate is higher.
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Because some of us don't want to line the main dealers pockets for something that takes an hours work.
 
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viperfire said:
Can someone let me know where the oil filter is located? :blow:
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Well done for using the indy dealer network; gets my vote! I won't use Audi anymore either.

Picture shows filter near the top of the engine (black round cylinder) just infront of the left hand edge of engine cover

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CMcKenzie said:
You're in the wrong section mate, either want to go to the 8P or 8V depending on the age of the car.
Callum.
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you never know, it could have been a 12 year old A3 8L with 12 year old oil in it :p
 
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cuke2u said:
Then you do what you've done and vote with your feet, or car...
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??? He did didn't he....

I've done the same and not been penalised at trade in time as I've used a recognised / award winning independent. The dealer I use know I can't abide his service department, but he'd rather have my business than lose me completely.

I don't see a main dealer service history as holding any kudos these days as they can rarely fix a single fault I go to them with.
 
warren_S3 said:
??? He did didn't he....

I've done the same and not been penalised at trade in time as I've used a recognised / award winning independent. The dealer I use know I can't abide his service department, but he'd rather have my business than lose me completely.

I don't see a main dealer service history as holding any kudos these days as they can rarely fix a single fault I go to them with.
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I think he just wants to have a go at me without really reading my posts :unsure::beee:
 
warren_S3 said:
Well done for using the indy dealer network; gets my vote! I won't use Audi anymore either.

Picture shows filter near the top of the engine (black round cylinder) just infront of the left hand edge of engine cover

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Pretty sure that's not the 1.4. At least, my 1.4 CoD doesn't look anything like that.

On mine, the oil filter is really hard to see, but I found it eventually. It's right down at the bottom, on the front of the engine pointing forwards towards the bumper (I think). Look down between the engine and radiator, roughly in the middle, and you'll see a (probably black) cartridge. The actual filter looks pretty much like the one in that picture, but it's mounted horizontally not vertically.

With the undertray etc., you might find that it stays pretty clean anyway, so it might not be easy to tell if it's a new one or not.
 
AJB said:
Pretty sure that's not the 1.4. At least, my 1.4 CoD doesn't look anything like that.

On mine, the oil filter is really hard to see, but I found it eventually. It's right down at the bottom, on the front of the engine pointing forwards towards the bumper (I think). Look down between the engine and radiator, roughly in the middle, and you'll see a (probably black) cartridge. The actual filter looks pretty much like the one in that picture, but it's mounted horizontally not vertically.

With the undertray etc., you might find that it stays pretty clean anyway, so it might not be easy to tell if it's a new one or not.
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Interesting. When I googled it this came back on M25 Audi's website, but then I should know better by now than to trust that!

Does this look more like it?

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AJB said:
Pretty sure that's not the 1.4. At least, my 1.4 CoD doesn't look anything like that.

On mine, the oil filter is really hard to see, but I found it eventually. It's right down at the bottom, on the front of the engine pointing forwards towards the bumper (I think). Look down between the engine and radiator, roughly in the middle, and you'll see a (probably black) cartridge. The actual filter looks pretty much like the one in that picture, but it's mounted horizontally not vertically.

With the undertray etc., you might find that it stays pretty clean anyway, so it might not be easy to tell if it's a new one or not.
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That's a picture of the 1.8 TFSI that's why...
 
warren_S3 said:
Does this look more like it?

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Yes, more like that. That's certainly where the oil filter is on mine. The intake ducting doesn't look familiar, and there's a small cover on mine, but I don't know how much of that is just the angle of the photo - obviously you don't get to see it from that angle in the car!
 
Another thing to note is audi dealers nowadays suck the oil out of the dipstick, how much of the oil and tiny little metal fragments which will inevitably be there actually comes out is anyones guess. When statllers did my 1k mile oil change they had to undo a sensor at the bottom to get the oil out iirc.

Nice to see you back warren, wonder if ITG will need the S3 for development...
 
If you found my posts antagonistic then you have my apologies. I'm perhaps rather taken aback that anyone is surprised that servicing costs at any main dealership is more expensive...
 
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I normally just say "the oil is in the back" when I book service, and then buy 12L castrol longlife oil (the same as they would had used) in bulk at a sweet price of 798DKK = 80£, that is usually half the price.

Anybody that could help me with which oil code is needed for the 2.0 TDi 150ps? I haven't taken delivery yet :)
 
RobH_S3 said:
Another thing to note is audi dealers nowadays suck the oil out of the dipstick, how much of the oil and tiny little metal fragments which will inevitably be there actually comes out is anyones guess. When statllers did my 1k mile oil change they had to undo a sensor at the bottom to get the oil out iirc.
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My S3 has just been into the dealer for a service. I inadvertently left the in-car dash cam running.

I can categorically state that my dealership does the oil change the old school method. Vehicle went up on the lift, oil drained, then filter changed, and new oil went in the top.

No sucking out the dipstick here!
 
veeeight said:
My S3 has just been into the dealer for a service. I inadvertently left the in-car dash cam running.

I can categorically state that my dealership does the oil change the old school method. Vehicle went up on the lift, oil drained, then filter changed, and new oil went in the top.

No sucking out the dipstick here!
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Crewe?

Man you had your 8P then
 
Yes Crewe Audi still do it the old school method.
 
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1st Oil Change is due in 10 days, so back to the question of go indy or local dealer?

Obviously we all know who will charge less but seeing as it only an oil change and the opportunity to save some money an indy specialist
(http://www.euro-performance.co.uk/index.html) will do the job just as good if not better than a local dealer?

My line of thinking thinking oil change with indy then service with dealer?

Whats your thoughts and implications for potential, selling on if any?

Always appreciated.
 
Will your Indy have VAS/ODIS to be able to hook up the car, and update it wil all the latest required updates?
 
I have never heard of oil being changed on any car by sucking it through the dipstick port?? ever :confused:
 
veeeight said:
Will your Indy have VAS/ODIS to be able to hook up the car, and update it wil all the latest required updates?
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Its a brand new model doubt there are any updates required just yet, so iv'e been informed by both the dealer and indy.

Dealer Price = £220.00
Indy Price = £139.00

Think i know where i'll be going for an oil change but take the main service for the dealer is my line of thinking.
 
Louay said:
Its a brand new model doubt there are any updates required just yet, so iv'e been informed by both the dealer and indy.
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Mines around the same age as yours if I remember correctly (Sep 2013) and just got mine back from some minor warranty work and they down a software update at the same time
 
To be honest I think Id take the hit and get it serviced from the people I bought it off, that way they know both you and the car. Plus when you come to trade in you can push them for more as it was bought and serviced by them. On the negative side if anything were to 'break' on your cars engine, they can't point the finger at something the other garage did or didn't do!
 
What was the software update Dave?

how do fellow owners receive updates if they don't require any warranty work? presumably they have to wait for an oil change or service? why wouldn't the DIS advice owners that a software update is available, maybe not required, similar to that of a smart phone?

If the independent specialist are licenced to offer a like for like service and to preserve the integrity of the warranty then surely any updates would be administered by them like a normal dealer would?

bit confused. are you saying that an indy specialist would do a lesser job because they are competitively cheaper?
 
Mine is BW11 2014, been in and out for other things, and always has had various updates applied.

Indy's tend not to have ODIS which is the on-line system required to connect the car to Audi AG.

It is possible to apply updates off-line, but that would require the Indu being able to source those updates in the first place.
 
Updates (apart from safety related ones, which you will be notified by letter) are not mandatory.
 
Personally I would always choose to have any service work done on my car by my local dealer. I purchased the car from them and they know me well and I often get small items done for nothing. It is also good that they know how the car has been looked after when it comes to them giving a good trade-in price.

There is an excellent Indi in my area which is owned and run by an ex Master Tech from my local dealers but even he does not have the ability to connect my car to the Audi system to check for any updates etc.
 
veeeight said:
Mine is BW11 2014, been in and out for other things, and always has had various updates applied.

Indy's tend not to have ODIS which is the on-line system required to connect the car to Audi AG.

It is possible to apply updates off-line, but that would require the Indu being able to source those updates in the first place.
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veeeight said:
Updates (apart from safety related ones, which you will be notified by letter) are not mandatory.
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so I or any other owners wouldn't notice an update if an update were to be installed at point of oil change or warranty work or any other?

should I decide to go with an indy and an available update wasn't installed would I notice this and when I take the car for its next major service all updates will be administered then?

Alternatively could I take the car to a dealer and ask for a software update again if any are available? would that cost me and if so how much would be looking at? If it's the difference of £80 then should I just go down the dealer route to remove any eliminate of doubt?

what would you suggest I do Veeeight? and thanks for the help and advice.

Cc
@warren_S5
 
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