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190PS Stage 1 tune Dyno

Rick @ Unicorn Motor Dev. Feb 13, 2018

  1. Rick @ Unicorn Motor Dev.

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    Custom software for the B9 2.0TDI DETA

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    SimonAshley Active Member

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    Any idea on what the 190TFSi is capable of?
     
  3. desertstorm

    desertstorm Moderator Staff Member Moderator VCDS Map User Audi A4 Audi Avant Owner Group quattro TDi

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    A good improvement across the whole rev range, I bet the owner will be pleased with the way that drives now.
     
  4. Rick @ Unicorn Motor Dev.

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    The TFSi will be 250 plus!
     
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    DohNut Active Member Team Daytona TFSI Owners Group Audi A4 Audi Avant Owner Group

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    Food for thought. What’s the cost for something like this?
     
  6. Rick @ Unicorn Motor Dev.

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    £400 including all Dyno time.

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  7. Mike.

    Mike. Member Team Sepang Audi S3 Manual

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    Does the 2.0 tfsi 190 require the stronic map to manage that power? What other mods would help also? Eg, intercooler or an intake? Thanks @Rick @ Unicorn Motor Dev.
     
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  9. Rick @ Unicorn Motor Dev.

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    No, S-Tronic is fine on that.

    Rick
     
  10. Marky007

    Marky007 A4 Sline Team Silver saloon Audi A4 TDi S-line owners group Manual

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    Hi rick you got a bhp figure for my 2.0 tdi 143bhp b8.5 2012 please and cost you were reccommend to me as your in north east thanks

    Mark
     
  11. psychopomp1

    psychopomp1 Active Member

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    Hi Rick
    Would you be able to remap the B9 Avant 2.0 TFSI 190PS where the main purpose is to get better fuel economy rather than power? If so, do you have any idea of what the MPG gains would be? I'm guessing the power would still increase? Otherwise if there's only 1 type of remap you do for this engine, would the fuel economy remain the same or not?
     
  12. Rick @ Unicorn Motor Dev.

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    The 143 is a tuned 120 engine, so the gains aren't as large as on some other engines, but it will do over 170bhp and a good shove of extra torque.

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    In short, no. Economy cannot be improved on a modern Petrol engine in he same way it can a diesel. You may get a very slight gain but it isn't worth it if that is your sole goal. A remap to increase the performance will have no effect on economy in the long term. At first you will be using more fuel as you will be "testing" the new power...

    Rick
     
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    psychopomp1 Active Member

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    Thanks Rick. Sorry just one more question: when the car is brand new, do you recommend the engine is "loosened" up a bit (2000 miles?) before remapping it or does it not make any difference?

    Cheers
     
  15. cuke2u

    cuke2u Well-Known Member TFSI Owners Group saloon Audi A4 S-line owners group

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    Improved mpg can be achieved though, if you're not testing the increase in performance. As the torque is increased then the car can be driven more lazily thus using higher gears at a lower engine rpm.
    I have had a few remaps and one tuning box in the past and it isn't just about a increase in torque and power but the manner in which they are delivered over the rpm range. Turbo engines these days seem to be tuned to produce maximum torque quite low down in the rev range and the engine seemingly running out of 'puff'. Where as a remap can make the delivery more linear...
     
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    What sort of cost is this remap and were are you located THANKS.MARK
     
  17. Rick @ Unicorn Motor Dev.

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    Hi Mark,

    £350 including all Dyno time, we are in Stockport.

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  18. Rick @ Unicorn Motor Dev.

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    I would give it 1000 miles.

    Rick
     
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    syed123 Active Member

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    Anything for the 272 v6 tdi?
     
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    Nothing yet, different ECU. Possibly Autumn Time.

    Rick
     
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    Celtic tuning have a remap on there website for the 3.0tdi 272ps
     
  23. psychopomp1

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    Sorry Rick, yet another question: are you able to make your remaps TD1 code free, so that there is no way the Audi dealership can find out the car's been remapped? I believe the Audi warranty is no longer honoured once they see the TD1 code on their diagnostic equipment.

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    cuke2u Well-Known Member TFSI Owners Group saloon Audi A4 S-line owners group

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    There have been some claims floating around the 'tinternet that they can but in my experience of them I haven't seen any evidence that dealerships have discovered a tuning box has been fitted and marked it as a TB1. I have read no reports that they have in any forums from owners either.
    If a dealership does suspect one has been used I doubt very much if they would have the tools to find out.
    https://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/14365-td1-tg1-te1-and-tb1-flags/
     
  27. Rick @ Unicorn Motor Dev.

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    TD1 is always a possibility on both remaps and tuning boxes. With the MD1 based ECU on the 3.0 it has a lot of diagnostic capability to pick these up. Also, the power and torque gains are vastly inflated in my experience of doing before and after run with tuning boxes.

    Rick
     

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