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Paul - I've got a set sitting down in Devon at my folks place...I'm down there this Friday so will bring em back and get a piccie for you...they are in v good nick. I was going to snow shoe them!

cheers Paddy

sorry - bad description....space saver only allows speeds of up to 50mph (and is scary then - braking is frightening!), and the judder only starts to become evident from about 40/50mph upwards until around 80/90mph when it starts to smooth off...so space saver is no good to test the wheel theory....

Ok, - been along to garage today; and after some discussion about my problems and the test drive, they have decided that my rear passenger wheel may be at the heart of the problem... so I'm going to find another 225/45/17 wheel to test out their theory...spare wheel space saver doesnt do it!

Thanks again Sarah...will start ball rolling with cv joints... Cheshire oaks were not rude...simply oblivious to the idea that a customer has a say on what they have done to their own car !!! Audi uk it is :-) Paddy - no such tyres, in afraid. They are some dodgy (but virtually new / full...

Cheers Julian. I wont just be letting it go. On either count! I guess contacting Audi UK is step 1...along with going back to the garage to get the tech guy to take a drive with me... no fun at all...

Paddy - funny thing is that I did exactly that. I went to vw rescue in wombourne, and took out their audi specialist - he noticed the judder, which was far less severe at the time, and put it down to a few things: 1. a very minor imbalance of rear left wheel 2. small movement in front bushes 3...

Sarah had said the same to me...I took it into an Audi garage who said my drive shafts were fine...a little bit of movement in the front bushes, but not major.... really appreciate the input though...maybe they havent spotted it?

Sorry Paddy - in reply to your question...yes there was already judder beforehand...it seems to have got significantly worse in the last couple of days...long drive to Scotland and back...

thats what is frustrating me...I want to discount other items (like the software upgrade), so I am then left with mainly hardware issues re: judder fault... I saw your ecu replacement thread 5th Gear - that sucked...based on my computer printout, I think I am one of the "simple ones", according...

based on Julians details of cars that needed the update, and those that didnt, my software version is currently 5604...the latest version is 8088... my car is a 55 with some of the last troublesome software version on it.... it has got some hesitancy at the sub 2k revs with the famous jumping...

OK - phoned Cheshire Oaks Audi to get the software done, and they called me back to say that they "would not carry out this update, as it is not needed". I asked why. They said that having checked my chassis number, it was unnecessary work, and they would not do it. I explained that another...

Oh ps... You want the 345mm/30 not the 312mm if you are fitting to a 3.2Q... :-)

I can confirm that the pagids are good...I had them fitted as part of warranty works last week, and they have dramatically improved quality of braking...no squeal, or fade,or any other problems...don't think you will go too far wrong...

Now I'm getting nervous!!! Appreciate the advice...didn't think it could be the drive shaft or it would be there under all conditions, but I have no knowledge of Haldex Couplings....only had the Haldex done 2 weeks ago....eek.

it shakes side to side when accelerating between 40-80mph...dont think its wheels, tyres or drive shafts as it goes away if you lift off the accelerator...its also very much less noticeable when in sports mode??? had the car checked out and nothing found.....so hoping its a software glitch

hee hee - guildford and harrogate might be a little too far. Birmingham and Ellesmere are easy distances... Will work out where work is taking me, and book accordingly - fingers crossed that the software solves the juddering....

Thanks Sarah Helpful, as always.

I've tried for weeks to get the software updated on my 3.2Q. I've given up with my local Audi who told me (despite giving them every bit of detail that Sarah, Julian, and Paddy had recommended) that the software is only available in Germany, and they will "update me if it gets released in...

Sarah - many thanks for all your advice, and friendly welcome to a newbie! Enjoy the life, and best wishes :-)