SQ5 2020 SQ5 TDI - review at 2mths

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At 2 months in at just 900 miles, and as a 1st time Audi owner coming from Lexus and Alfa, I thought I'd post my thoughts on how the Audi and SQ5 experience is going - will be a long post......

A long time ago, when I was much more junior, I was taken out by a supplier in his V6 TDI A6 saloon, I enjoyed the car more than the lunch I think and vowed that a big Audi was something I wanted at some point in the future. Father in law has 3 Audi's and I like the brand, almost bought a A6 Avant in the past but the deal didn't align and I bought another Lexus, then ticked off an Alfa, but now find myself in a SQ5 TDI Vorsprung Edition.

I didn't intend buying one so quickly, but following a trip to Scotland in the Alfa Stelvio and my wife complaining again about the rather busy ride on 20's with non-adaptive dampers, I started trawling through Autotrader and found that there were deals to be done on Q5 stock cars at the local dealers.

Cue a trip to my local Audi dealer in Tyneside and they had a stock new SQ5 Vorprung Ed on the forecourt with a very good initial discount and more importantly, all the toys and features I wanted. It needed to have adaptive, ideally air suspension, pano roof, adaptive cruise, and a 6 cylinder engine, heated electric seats and anything else was a bonus. Buoyed by a favourable price for the Alfa through WBAC, and a good deal from Audi, with additional man maths, a deal was struck. As a Vorsprung Ed, it has virtually every option available, including some that were options even on the Vorsprung spec, but it does have some noticeable omissions, more later.

Good:
Comfort - ride quality after the Alfa is night and day, even with larger 21's, the air suspension is brilliant at reducing the crashes and bangs of our pock-marked roads, it is so much more composed. Tyre roar and general quietness in the cabin is great too. The seats are super comfortable, being electrically adjustable, with heat and massage, the wife was sold as soon as she sat in, given she was very lukewarm leading up to the test drive!

Toys - don't want for anything really ( well a couple of things maybe!) and after I've read the manual and spent a few hours working out the systems, I think I have the hang of it all now. The active cruise with Lane keep assist, sign recognition and traffic jam detection, means the car virtually drives itself on motorways, and it is sensible with it too, without too much sensor drama and odd detections that I had on the Lexus from a few years ago. The Pano roof is great, don't think I'd have a car without now, 360 camera's likewise and the matrix lights seem great too, but haven't had much time night driving to really test them. I am also really liking the virtual cockpit, and I'm glad I have the older model with the pad/wheel/button combinations rather than the touch screen - hate finger prints on the screen!

Performance etc - plenty, more than plenty, almost too quick in some instances. The wall of torque that the V6 produces is awesome - 550lbft/700NM - just glad it has quattro! This car has the quattro sport diff as well. I haven't driven a normal car, but understanding now what it is meant to do and having tried in the dry, some enthusiastic driving on empty Northumberland roads, it does seem to match the marketing material, where it still delivers that rear biased, line tightening feeling. I also quite like the sound it makes (I know it is artificial) and a few people have commented - subtle, understated, but undoubtedly a bigger motor. And MPG even with Covid short journeys is great I think for what it is.

Annoying - but not bad yet:
Gearbox - sometimes its brilliant, other times it is so slow to make up its mind or engage a gear it is infuriating. Arriving at junctions and then not quite stopping is its worst. Its like the clutch is slipping, then woooooff a big thud of power. It is something I will be mentioning to the dealer in a while, hoping there is a SW update for it like some of the A4/5/6/7 models. Also while on the gearbox - the nasty plastic gearshift paddles on the back of the lovely steering wheel. Having come from the Alfa with its wonderfully tactile, large aluminium paddles, fixed to the column, Ferrari style, with such a satisfying mechanism, the Audi is an afterthought, just horrible.

Missing toys, I thought this was the Vorspung spec? - Spent hours looking for the heated steering wheel button, till eventually worked out you couldn't ever have one. Eh?!? Also, one of the few options mine didn't get is the Storage pack. This is still an option on the Vorsprung edition, mine doesn't have it and to say the interior of the Q5 has an abundance of storage is quite the understatement. Should be standard on every model! I won't mention the lack of external exhaust tips either, ho-hum......

CarPlay and Audi infotainment system - the way Audi have added Carplay is like an afterthought, its a bolt on, just not integrated into the car. In the Alfa, which also had Carplay and isn't universally loved, the whole system flowed and worked seamlessly, you could use the inbuilt sat-nav or the carplay one, the inbuilt phone interface or the carplay one, music too, all great. Audi, plug in the phone for carplay, disables the Audi phone display on the dash, WTF! I've got to say its almost too complicated - there are so many options for playing music - Bluetooth, Wifi, SD1 SD2, Phone 1, Phone 2, Audi Connect, Audi Phone - its a bit silly. I'm also not a fan of the B&O stereo so far. 19 speakers, and it is so woolly in the midrange. I keep adjusting settings and very occasionally 1 track will sound amazing, but most are pretty average. I'm hoping it needs more time, but not a fan so far.

So - I am loving the car, last couple have been kept for 18 and 24mths, but think this one will be a long termer. Have already started looking for a set of black badges to complete the black pack look and carbon mirror covers - one of the final missing options. Just waiting to get back to being able to drive it properly and at distance again!
 
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Really found your review of the SQ5 interesting. I have the Q5 Vorsprung but mine is just the regular q5. I agree with you about the B&O system.
 
When I purchased my Q5 as part of the deal got the dealer to thrown in some additional mats
 
No, that’s a long way from Northumberland, and it would be very difficult to post safely, as it’s a semi-rigid liner.
 
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Really found your review of the SQ5 interesting. I have the Q5 Vorsprung but mine is just the regular q5. I agree with you about the B&O system.
How have you found some of the options in the Vorsprung spec Mittersill? Did yours come with extras?
 
Mine is the bog standard Vorsprung model. The extra storage pack would have been nice to have. I had a q5 previously so getting used to it wasn’t too bad. I love the pan roof and the adaptive cruise Control. I managed to get free insurance for the wheels as I am concerned about the pot holes in the roads of Northumberland and the damage they would do to the wheels.
 
Looks like you got yours from Newcastle Audi @Mittersill ? Which engine is it?

Mine came with additions of red calipers and carbon interior trim, on top of all the normal Vorsprung bits.
 
Looks like you got yours from Newcastle Audi @Mittersill ? Which engine is it?

Mine came with additions of red calipers and carbon interior trim, on top of all the normal Vorsprung bits.

I went for the diesel version. If I didn’t run another Audi (TTS) I would have went for the SQ5 Vorsprung. As you know the performance from the SQ5 is amazing and superb in ever way.

Our Q5 came from Wearside Audi. It was a pre registered motor so the price was really good. Our previous Q5 was Navarra blue, in my opinion the best colour for the Q5.

We were going to go for the facelifted model but weren’t keen on most of the mmi functions going down the touch screen route.
 
Interested in the comments on B&O as I have an RS4 with it, which follows an M5 with Harmon Kardon and an SQ5 with B&O and so far I am enjoying the stereo, it definitely sounds a step up from HK...
 
Interested in the comments on B&O as I have an RS4 with it, which follows an M5 with Harmon Kardon and an SQ5 with B&O and so far I am enjoying the stereo, it definitely sounds a step up from HK...

The B&O isn’t a bad system by any stretch of the imagination. My previous Q5 and A6 both had the mid range Audi sound system. The difference/quality to me doesn’t seem enough to justify the price difference. Still glad that I have it as it was part of the standard spec of the Vorsprung.
 
The B&O isn’t a bad system by any stretch of the imagination. My previous Q5 and A6 both had the mid range Audi sound system. The difference/quality to me doesn’t seem enough to justify the price difference. Still glad that I have it as it was part of the standard spec of the Vorsprung.

Are they ever? you can spend £3k on a bowers and wilkins system in some cars.... its a car, not the right place for high end audio anyway! Mine was wrapped in with C&S pack which I wanted for other reasons so I consider it virtually free (A level man maths practiced here)....

Mind I have a lovely engine noise to listen to so I didnt really need a posh stereo, as I also have the performance exhaust!
 
I’ve come from a Lexus IS with the Mark Levinson, to Alfa Stelvio mid range(not HK) to the B&O.
The Lexus ML was fantastic, but took a while to find the correct setup. Alfa was ok, the B&O I just can’t find a setup so far which makes my ears happy. Can’t put a finger on it, it’s not bad, but maybe over hyped? I mean who needs 19 speakers!
 
I went for the diesel version. If I didn’t run another Audi (TTS) I would have went for the SQ5 Vorsprung. As you know the performance from the SQ5 is amazing and superb in ever way.

Our Q5 came from Wearside Audi. It was a pre registered motor so the price was really good. Our previous Q5 was Navarra blue, in my opinion the best colour for the Q5.

We were going to go for the facelifted model but weren’t keen on most of the mmi functions going down the touch screen route.
There does seem to have been a glut of high spec Audi’s at dealers in UK pre-Reg or sat a while. After I got mine i found out it was sent to Audi Stirling for PDI, then brought to Tyneside around May. I bought it in Sept, it had been PDI’d in January. Makes for a decent discount though. The blue is good, one of the better colours from the limited selection, though would have preferred a red car if had a choice. It was virtually identical blue to the Alfa (Montecarlo Blue). Some of the new greens and reds are quite nice on the facelift models.
 
I’ve seen a lot of the bright blue Vorsprung models at dealers, some prices up over £70k. The facelift is upon us so these are model roll outs.

Am really hoping for a petrol SQ5 to come with the FL otherwise it’s off to Porsche and the new Macan S for me.
 
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I’ve seen a lot of the bright blue Vorsprung models at dealers, some prices up over £70k. The facelift is upon us so these are model roll outs.

Am really hoping for a petrol SQ5 to come with the FL otherwise it’s off to Porsche and the new Macan S for me.

I think you got your current car not long after I got my SQ5, so around 3 years ago? Before I got the SQ5 I had a Macan on order, a GTS with a few options that came to about £67k. Not sure how their prices are now, but a Macan is the best driving SUV bar none. However, its small - boot and rear seat. And running costs and finance rates are steep.... I ended up looking at financing through Clydesdale where interest rate was less but the balloon, no guarantee was also lower.

However, for that sort of money, you could get into an RS4, which has the Macan Turbo engine, a lower centre of gravity, better rear seat space and boot....

You can probably guess what I drive now - replacing an M5 which I never gelled with....
 
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There does seem to have been a glut of high spec Audi’s at dealers in UK pre-Reg or sat a while. After I got mine i found out it was sent to Audi Stirling for PDI, then brought to Tyneside around May. I bought it in Sept, it had been PDI’d in January. Makes for a decent discount though. The blue is good, one of the better colours from the limited selection, though would have preferred a red car if had a choice. It was virtually identical blue to the Alfa (Montecarlo Blue). Some of the new greens and reds are quite nice on the facelift models.

My Vorsprung was registered in July and the PDI was carried I think in Essex! Out of interest what month was your Q5 registered? It will interesting to see what prices pre reg versions of the face lifted models will end up being. I suspect they will be a lot higher than what we paid for ours.

If there is no Brexit deal there may even be tariffs on new cars after January.
 
I’ve seen a lot of the bright blue Vorsprung models at dealers, some prices up over £70k. The facelift is upon us so these are model roll outs.

Am really hoping for a petrol SQ5 to come with the FL otherwise it’s off to Porsche and the new Macan S for me.

Personally I don’t think this will happen in the near future. The mild hybrid diesel SQ5 version (pre face lift)was just launched last year replacing the petrol one.
 
I think its fairly certain that the diesel S4, SQ5, S6 etc arent selling well judging by some of the pre reg and new offers I was offered when buying. BMW dont seem to be doing a roaring trade in M340d's etc either - but 340is are doing well.

The question is will Audi swallow their price and put the petrol back or will we have to keep buying RS's instead ;)
 
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I think its fairly certain that the diesel S4, SQ5, S6 etc arent selling well judging by some of the pre reg and new offers I was offered when buying. BMW dont seem to be doing a roaring trade in M340d's etc either - but 340is are doing well.

The question is will Audi swallow their price and put the petrol back or will we have to keep buying RS's instead ;)

I think you are right about some models not selling. If you are prepared to do your home work there are some big savings out there. There is a website called Drive the Deal with big discounts on Audi’s which is worth checking out.
 
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I think you are right about some models not selling. If you are prepared to do your home work there are some big savings out there. There is a website called Drive the Deal with big discounts on Audi’s which is worth checking out.

And even then stock cars at dealers can be even better deals....

I am happy to compromise a bit on spec for the right deal - lets be honest when I factory order I tick way too many options and then realise I didnt need half of them.....

So now the happy owner of an RS4 with a few options bought at a very good price (I think) with a petrol engine!
 
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And even then stock cars at dealers can be even better deals....

I am happy to compromise a bit on spec for the right deal - lets be honest when I factory order I tick way too many options and then realise I didnt need half of them.....

So now the happy owner of an RS4 with a few options bought at a very good price (I think) with a petrol engine!

I have made the same mistake myself with a factory order A6 avant 3.0l which was ordered with more than 12k of extras. When it was p/e I got just £500 more than the basic standard one. Still the best Audi I have every owned - still miss it.

How do you find the suspension on theRS4?
 
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My Vorsprung was registered in July and the PDI was carried I think in Essex! Out of interest what month was your Q5 registered? It will interesting to see what prices pre reg versions of the face lifted models will end up being. I suspect they will be a lot higher than what we paid for ours.

If there is no Brexit deal there may even be tariffs on new cars after January.

mine wasn’t a pre Reg, was pdi’d in January, the sat around outside till I bought it in September as first owner. I agree I think new car buyers maybe in for a shock come January with the brexit tariffs.
 
I’ve seen a lot of the bright blue Vorsprung models at dealers, some prices up over £70k. The facelift is upon us so these are model roll outs.

Am really hoping for a petrol SQ5 to come with the FL otherwise it’s off to Porsche and the new Macan S for me.

if you are paying list for a stock SQ5 Vorsprung, you’ve been had. Should be an easy 15% discount available. You won’t get that from Porsche.
 
My Vorsprung was registered in July and the PDI was carried I think in Essex! Out of interest what month was your Q5 registered? It will interesting to see what prices pre reg versions of the face lifted models will end up being. I suspect they will be a lot higher than what we paid for ours.

If there is no Brexit deal there may even be tariffs on new cars after January.
Lol demand and supply, people just won't buy them if prices rise.

TX.

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I have made the same mistake myself with a factory order A6 avant 3.0l which was ordered with more than 12k of extras. When it was p/e I got just £500 more than the basic standard one. Still the best Audi I have every owned - still miss it.

How do you find the suspension on theRS4?

There is a reason dealers spec showroom cars in the way they do - maximum attraction, minimum cost (mainly, the odd one sneaks through with lots of extras)

Its firm, as you would imagine, but I dont think the ride is any firmer than my SQ5 on 21s, and more compliant than my M5 was. The seats are brilliant so not sure how much they compensate.

So far, 300 miles in and I love it.
 
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if you are paying list for a stock SQ5 Vorsprung, you’ve been had. Should be an easy 15% discount available. You won’t get that from Porsche.

You will get better residuals though - although I found that even though the percentages favoured Porsche, because you have to pay more for an equivalent car and residuals are based on list not actual price for models with discounts, the Audi was cheaper in £ note terms....
 
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There is a lot of 2020 Inventory unsold sat in the dealers and even some 2019 stuff too. The current RS was built 10th February according to the Certificate of Conformancy left in the glove box, I bought the car 23rd of October and know that the deal (nearly £10k off list) was supported by Audi UK.

Autotrader lets dealers list new car inventory so it's worth keeping a close eye on the spec you are seeking, there will be desperation in the next3 or 4 weeks to move stock on.
 
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There is a lot of 2020 Inventory unsold sat in the dealers and even some 2019 stuff too. The current RS was built 10th February according to the Certificate of Conformancy left in the glove box, I bought the car 23rd of October and know that the deal (nearly £10k off list) was supported by Audi UK.

Autotrader lets dealers list new car inventory so it's worth keeping a close eye on the spec you are seeking, there will be desperation in the next3 or 4 weeks to move stock on.

I am not sure they will be desperate, son in law works in the trade and they reported stunning Q3 results. If a no deal Brexit is expected with a tariff on new cars, those sat in stock on 1/1/21 may become a bit more attractive - no tariff needed so add 5% not 10% to sales price....

I was originally waiting for 2021 and probably Q2 but decided that £11.5k off an RS4 was probably as good as it gets, and if there is a 10% tariff, waiting was going to cost me more however good the deal was....
 
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Enjoyed that review OP! I've had my 2018 petrol SQ5 for a year now and I'm not bored of it, in fact I'll probably buy it outright at the end of the finance deal as I don't want a diesel SQ5 as lovely as they are (unless they put the petrol engine back into the new SQ5?).

I'm happy with the B&O setup, I came from a BMW 440i and the sound system in that was pants. Again, I agree with you on the trackpad vs touchscreen comments too. Panroof - mine doesn't have one and I'm glad I don't have it reading the comments on the squeaky panroof's (besides all that heavy glass sat above you adds extra weight).
 
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Enjoyed that review OP! I've had my 2018 petrol SQ5 for a year now and I'm not bored of it, in fact I'll probably buy it outright at the end of the finance deal as I don't want a diesel SQ5 as lovely as they are (unless they put the petrol engine back into the new SQ5?).

I'm happy with the B&O setup, I came from a BMW 440i and the sound system in that was pants. Again, I agree with you on the trackpad vs touchscreen comments too. Panroof - mine doesn't have one and I'm glad I don't have it reading the comments on the squeaky panroof's (besides all that heavy glass sat above you adds extra weight).

I nearly didnt buy another Audi because of the touchscreen but decided to take a punt as frankly I didnt use the controller much on the go even in my BMW and was using the touchscreen for inputs when stationary.... its not too bad and I am finding voice control pretty good so far....

I had a panroof in my SQ5 and barely ever opened it - or the blind. Not had one since and dont miss it. The thing I miss most currently is speed limit display, speed limits are important!

I am surprised we havent had an RSQ5 yet, there is a Q3 and a Q8 version.....
 
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I suspect it would do well but maybe they are waiting to see how new RS Q3 sales go before committing, or maybe concerned about stealing RS4 sales.... interestingly BMW brought out the X3M before the M3T, but maybe them playing in both markets from 2022 will inspire Audi....
 
RSQ5 vs RSQ3 - I found a YouTube review that compared the Q5 with the F3 Q3 for useable size, there is very little in it, boot space was a couple of inches deeper and that was about it. Audi product management are walking the tightrope of selling today's mature IC engine technology because it exists (sell what you've got) knowing full well that the real growth market is for EVs and that's where the big R&D spend is going.

What appeared to be an RSQ5 was seen testing 3 or 4 years ago I recall but never saw the light of day as a production vehicle. It's a sobering thought but our new modern IC powered cars probably won't have the normal 15-20 year life spans previous purchases have and will likely be legislated off the road at some point.
 
RSQ5 vs RSQ3 - I found a YouTube review that compared the Q5 with the F3 Q3 for useable size, there is very little in it, boot space was a couple of inches deeper and that was about it. Audi product management are walking the tightrope of selling today's mature IC engine technology because it exists (sell what you've got) knowing full well that the real growth market is for EVs and that's where the big R&D spend is going.

What appeared to be an RSQ5 was seen testing 3 or 4 years ago I recall but never saw the light of day as a production vehicle. It's a sobering thought but our new modern IC powered cars probably won't have the normal 15-20 year life spans previous purchases have and will likely be legislated off the road at some point.

I agree it isnt looking promising, but lets be honest, cars dont always sell to people on what they do but what they convey, and some people wont trade from an SQ5 to an RSQ3 because of the perception - plus of course some of the trim, materials and options dont filter down the range completely.

And yes big spend will be on EVs, and we might not have good ICE for much longer - all the more reason to take advantage of those prepared to pay for the best ones....

At some stage, I will swap my Mini for an EV or hybrid shopper car, but I'd like to keep my nice ICE for weekend use whatever the legislation for a good few years yet....
 
I suspect it would do well but maybe they are waiting to see how new RS Q3 sales go before committing, or maybe concerned about stealing RS4 sales.... interestingly BMW brought out the X3M before the M3T, but maybe them playing in both markets from 2022 will inspire Audi....

RSQ3 has never sold well in the past, the 8U version was on sale in the UK from 2014 to very early 2017 and less than 900 were registered. The market for a compact SUV that's neither spacious (the F3 is notably more spacious inside) nor cheap to run with a voracious appetite for fuel (a B9 RS4 gulps less) and higher maintenance costs was always going to be small...probably still is.
 
RSQ3 has never sold well in the past, the 8U version was on sale in the UK from 2014 to very early 2017 and less than 900 were registered. The market for a compact SUV that's neither spacious (the F3 is notably more spacious inside) nor cheap to run with a voracious appetite for fuel (a B9 RS4 gulps less) and higher maintenance costs was always going to be small...probably still is.

No, its notable that BMW have never done a small high performance model, and very few others do. I dont think it helped that the old model Q3 wasnt a great car in its class, poor boot, not massive back seat, a bit dumpy looking. The RS version might have been great but it helps to have a halo model on a range that is well thought of and the old Q3 seemingly wasnt.

All in my humble opinion of course, I know some love their pre model Q3s on here, just wasnt for me and even my late wife never wanted one (about the only Audi she didnt ask for at some time!)
 

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