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Audi a4 b8 TDI 136 ps manual I m looking for to get more from the engine something like stage 1. Whoever knows someone good around London please let me know . As always all input will be appreciated.
 
Bobby Singh (in threads above). He's well regarded and I've wanted one of his maps for a while.
 
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Thanks, Bobby was my 1st choice as well only thing is that I have to drop the car in he evening and pick it up next day and at the moment due to the damn virus no one seems to have a half an hour to spare :) Giving me a lift and next day to drop me off.
 
Yeah that's annoying. I am due to collect one of my cars from near Coventry soon but getting there is a problem due to the rules on social distancing.
 
Thanks, Bobby was my 1st choice as well only thing is that I have to drop the car in he evening and pick it up next day and at the moment due to the damn virus no one seems to have a half an hour to spare :) Giving me a lift and next day to drop me off.

PM me the details and I might be able to help you out.


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Thanks a lot but Bobby s busy now till June so the train has left the station. Anyway big Thank You. Adrian
 
Except it won't really be 206 bhp..
Well that s a bit much anyway for my car I m looking to get close to 170 bhp or 180 and torque not more than 370-380. I must say that I ce checked their webpage and this came up stage 1-206 bhp and 400 something newtons
 
I'll never understand this practice of £460 for snake boxes when I can get a remap for under £280 with before and after Dyno Dynamics runs and print outs .
 
Well that s a bit much anyway for my car I m looking to get close to 170 bhp or 180 and torque not more than 370-380. I must say that I ce checked their webpage and this came up stage 1-206 bhp and 400 something newtons

On that articular Bob Hope day the stock reading would of been around 150 !
 
I'll never understand this practice of £460 for snake boxes when I can get a remap for under £280 with before and after Dyno Dynamics runs and print outs .
Where can you get a decent soft for £300-350 Gaz?Rick doesn t answer to email..Darkside asks for £480. Bobby s busy till June( probably wait for Bobby Singh) Revo dealer 399+vat... Apr dealer in Sutton doesn t answer to email. Richter is another one I have to check
 
A mate had his new AMG GLC 63S mapped by Acid at MSL .

£800 !! He doesn't do over 60 and I told him the next service or two might update the software and wipe the remap .

He didn't seem too bothered , more money than..
 
A mate had his new AMG GLC 63S mapped by Acid at MSL .

£800 !! He doesn't do over 60 and I told him the next service or two might update the software and wipe the remap .

He didn't seem too bothered , more money than..
These times we re living now make no sense to spend £500 on a car as I m a simple car bloke only one that works and provides nothing big just the best I can. Have a family and pay for all bills makes me think twice on how to spend some money I don t really have. So I m not in such a stage on my life to put £800 on a tune but if he can good for him everyone do whatever they want but got your point.Adi
 
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I fitted a "plug and play" DTUK box to my 140 B7. It felt better, might have been psychological but it felt better.
When I removed my EGR valve I needed the light coding out so went for a remap.
The first thing the guy said to me when he saw my car "have you got a tuning box fitted?" I asked him how he knew and he said it's your sooty valance and smoke on acceleration. He said all they do is over fuel the engine.
Proper re-map all the way, mine was £150, now doing 170, far more responsive with a fuel saving too.
 
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Dear Adrian,

Thank you for your enquiry with Celtic Tuning, leaders in Electronic Engine Enhancements.

We are a global brand with a dealer network in 29 countries worldwide and full mobile facilities in England & Wales. What sets us apart from the competition is that we are genuine software developers with the technical ability to develop bespoke software in house; whereas most other UK tuning companies are re-sellers of software from third party companies. Not all tuning is equal, a remap is not simply a remap, it is the end product of a lengthy development program.

All of our software is developed in our state-of-the-art facilities using our two 4WD dynamometer test cells. All engine parameters are logged to ensure we provide the safest available software upgrades for your vehicle which are also fully MOT compliant.

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The Audi A4 (B8) 2008-2014 ECU remap takes the power from 134bhp up to 206bhp and the torque from 236lb/ft up to 298lb/ft.

This stage of software is designed as a software upgrade only meaning it is all within safe tolerances of the engine and drivetrain and requires no hardware modifications.

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The cost of the remap is £295.00 all-inclusive for which we travel to your location whether it is home or work place.



Alternatively, our eMotion2+ self-tuning device supports your vehicle. For £395.00 with free UK next day delivery give yourself the freedom to switch between different stages. To buy visit www.emotion-tuning.co.uk.



With all remaps we offer a 14-day satisfaction guarantee which gives you plenty of time to ensure it is exactly what you are after if not we will revert your car to its original software and fully refund you.



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HOW WILL IT AFFECT MY FUEL ECONOMY?
With our diesel upgrades, customers regularly report fuel savings of up to 10% but is very much dependent upon your driving style. This can be achieved on our performance remaps as well as our economy maps.

Our economy maps are designed for efficiency on part throttle and are for those customers focused on improving their fuel economy. Fuel economy savings are achieved by getting through gearings quicker and maintaining higher gears for longer not a set speed for a prolonged period of time returning X amount of fuel savings.


We provide all stages of tune through to full custom setup so if you have specific requirements please just ask. On many applications we also cater for larger turbos and injector upgrades so if you are looking for ultimate performance then we have the knowledge and ability to do just that.

Don't just take our word for it, there are hundreds of testimonials from customers all round the world. To see what they have said please follow the link:View Testimonials.

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HOW DO I BOOK?
If you wish to go ahead with the remap please forward us your contact details (address, Post Code and Phone number) along with your registration and approximate mileage, and we will be in touch to arrange a booking very soon.

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UNPARALLELED
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Unlike most tuning companies we genuinely write and develop all our software in-house, using two state-of-the-art 4WD dyno test cells and professional developers with extensive experience. This gives us unparalleled ability to provide the most accurate tuning and shows our commitment to produce the results possible for your vehicle.

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We tune all kinds of engines with equal care and attention to detail: cars, vans, 4x4s and trucks, of course, but also tractors and agricultural vehicles, marine engines, track and race cars, as well as Direct Shift Gear (DSG) gearbox engines.

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When you take your vehicle to a Celtic Tuning Authorised Dealer, you can be completely confident that like all of our global network in more than 29 countries, this dealer was chosen for its ability to pass on to you our rigorous quality of service. Our name depends on the job it does, so when we choose, we choose carefully.

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Dear Adrian,

Thank you for your enquiry with Celtic Tuning, leaders in Electronic Engine Enhancements.

We are a global brand with a dealer network in 29 countries worldwide and full mobile facilities in England & Wales. What sets us apart from the competition is that we are genuine software developers with the technical ability to develop bespoke software in house; whereas most other UK tuning companies are re-sellers of software from third party companies. Not all tuning is equal, a remap is not simply a remap, it is the end product of a lengthy development program.

All of our software is developed in our state-of-the-art facilities using our two 4WD dynamometer test cells. All engine parameters are logged to ensure we provide the safest available software upgrades for your vehicle which are also fully MOT compliant.

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THE PERFORMANCE
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The Audi A4 (B8) 2008-2014 ECU remap takes the power from 134bhp up to 206bhp and the torque from 236lb/ft up to 298lb/ft.

This stage of software is designed as a software upgrade only meaning it is all within safe tolerances of the engine and drivetrain and requires no hardware modifications.

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THE COST
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The cost of the remap is £295.00 all-inclusive for which we travel to your location whether it is home or work place.



Alternatively, our eMotion2+ self-tuning device supports your vehicle. For £395.00 with free UK next day delivery give yourself the freedom to switch between different stages. To buy visit www.emotion-tuning.co.uk.



With all remaps we offer a 14-day satisfaction guarantee which gives you plenty of time to ensure it is exactly what you are after if not we will revert your car to its original software and fully refund you.



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THE AFTER CARE
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For complete peace of mind, we provide a FREE 12 month's insurance backed supplementary warranty for vehicles still under warranty: Download Warranty Information.

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HOW WILL IT AFFECT MY FUEL ECONOMY?
With our diesel upgrades, customers regularly report fuel savings of up to 10% but is very much dependent upon your driving style. This can be achieved on our performance remaps as well as our economy maps.

Our economy maps are designed for efficiency on part throttle and are for those customers focused on improving their fuel economy. Fuel economy savings are achieved by getting through gearings quicker and maintaining higher gears for longer not a set speed for a prolonged period of time returning X amount of fuel savings.


We provide all stages of tune through to full custom setup so if you have specific requirements please just ask. On many applications we also cater for larger turbos and injector upgrades so if you are looking for ultimate performance then we have the knowledge and ability to do just that.

Don't just take our word for it, there are hundreds of testimonials from customers all round the world. To see what they have said please follow the link:View Testimonials.

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GOT A QUESTION?
If you have any further questions please do not hesitate to ask as our technical team will be able to answer any questions you may have. Just simply reply to this email or call us on 0333 6000 669.

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HOW DO I BOOK?
If you wish to go ahead with the remap please forward us your contact details (address, Post Code and Phone number) along with your registration and approximate mileage, and we will be in touch to arrange a booking very soon.

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THINGS TO KNOW
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UNPARALLELED
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Unlike most tuning companies we genuinely write and develop all our software in-house, using two state-of-the-art 4WD dyno test cells and professional developers with extensive experience. This gives us unparalleled ability to provide the most accurate tuning and shows our commitment to produce the results possible for your vehicle.

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We tune all kinds of engines with equal care and attention to detail: cars, vans, 4x4s and trucks, of course, but also tractors and agricultural vehicles, marine engines, track and race cars, as well as Direct Shift Gear (DSG) gearbox engines.

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When you take your vehicle to a Celtic Tuning Authorised Dealer, you can be completely confident that like all of our global network in more than 29 countries, this dealer was chosen for its ability to pass on to you our rigorous quality of service. Our name depends on the job it does, so when we choose, we choose carefully.

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So anyone some thoughts? Price wise is fair and coming to my place is ok although can t say that I wouldn rather have the car on dyno before and after. Adi
 
I am to looking at Celtic tuning for a remap on my b8 2.7 or to just get a 3.0 turbo?? Just trying to find the parts I would need and if it's cheaper?
 
Adrian - I might be able to do this for you next week if you are really in a hurry, but I've got a few cars to get through who have paid for hardware hence why I said June.

Cheers
Bobby
 
Adrian - I might be able to do this for you next week if you are really in a hurry, but I've got a few cars to get through who have paid for hardware hence why I said June.

Cheers
Bobby
Hi Bobby just sent you an email without knowing about your message here. No rush I just want to know that in the next month or so I have some sort of idea who s going to take the job and where. I m very happy If you can do it in two weeks time if that s ok for you? Or whenever you have time after you finish your other jobs. Adrian
 
I am to looking at Celtic tuning for a remap on my b8 2.7 or to just get a 3.0 turbo?? Just trying to find the parts I would need and if it's cheaper?
Hi I can t make any comments on changing turbo and stuff but for obvious reasons a bigger turbo and an intercooler in some good hands are the way forward but cost wise I m sure a remap is cheaper. Depends what you re ready to put down£££
 
So anyone some thoughts? Price wise is fair and coming to my place is ok although can t say that I wouldn rather have the car on dyno before and after. Adi

That is a hell of a power I crease claim, 72 bhp on the same turbo and injectors. I would have thought o my possible with a mechanical upgrade too.
 
Pure fiction mate , study their website when the dyno chart is available , 9/10 their dyno over reads , so for example a 134 does 150 stock , so the result is over inflated , yet the difference is from 134...criminal...
 
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That s the thing is a mice trap..as sounds like wow amazing what a tune!! A car like mine with oem clutch won t perform well with such an increase but I know it s just a stunt, a marketing stunt
 
They’re all just generic files from the likes of Celtic and all the others that will come to you. You pay nearly as much as a proper job with no way of knowing what’s been done or what power your achieving or if it’s even within safe parameters for your engine.

I’d use bobby if I was down south. My mates just bought a 330d mapped by him. I’m yet to go out in it but by all accounts it’s a clean smooth map that pulls well with next to no smoke. Other than that I’d only really be looking at darkside or unicorn motor developments if your up north. Bobbys rep proceeds him so it’s all about how it drives with him, and I don’t think you’d be disappointed. The other 2 have very good reps and have dynos for before and after figures. Have a watch of some videos on darksides YouTube channel. They don’t hide anything and tell you exactly what goes into modifying and re mapping diesels. It’s a bit of an eye opener at times, educational and also an enjoyable watch.
 
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They’re all just generic files from the likes of Celtic and all the others that will come to you. You pay nearly as much as a proper job with no way of knowing what’s been done or what power your achieving or if it’s even within safe parameters for your engine.

I’d use bobby if I was down south. My mates just bought a 330d mapped by him. I’m yet to go out in it but by all accounts it’s a clean smooth map that pulls well with next to no smoke. Other than that I’d only really be looking at darkside or unicorn motor developments if your up north. Bobbys rep proceeds him so it’s all about how it drives with him, and I don’t think you’d be disappointed. The other 2 have very good reps and have dynos for before and after figures. Have a watch of some videos on darksides YouTube channel. They don’t hide anything and tell you exactly what goes into modifying and re mapping diesels. It’s a bit of an eye opener at times, educational and also an enjoyable watch.
Funny that I m really watching their vlogs/videos on youtube. And yes Bobby was my choice from beginning but I kind off missed an opportunity ( it s hard to find the sweet spot when comes to tune/remap your car isn t it?)
 
They’re all just generic files from the likes of Celtic and all the others that will come to you. You pay nearly as much as a proper job with no way of knowing what’s been done or what power your achieving or if it’s even within safe parameters for your engine.

I’d use bobby if I was down south. My mates just bought a 330d mapped by him. I’m yet to go out in it but by all accounts it’s a clean smooth map that pulls well with next to no smoke. Other than that I’d only really be looking at darkside or unicorn motor developments if your up north. Bobbys rep proceeds him so it’s all about how it drives with him, and I don’t think you’d be disappointed. The other 2 have very good reps and have dynos for before and after figures. Have a watch of some videos on darksides YouTube channel. They don’t hide anything and tell you exactly what goes into modifying and re mapping diesels. It’s a bit of an eye opener at times, educational and also an enjoyable watch.

Thanks for the kind words.
Dyno figures are great for social media and gives a rough idea. However, the truth is that dyno figures are mostly used as marketing tool. Bottom line is you have to respect lambda, boost, EGT's and emp, other than that the car makes whatever it makes on whoever's dyno.
VNT within the turbo has a limit of 900deg continous, now I've seen tunes from some mentioned in this thread whereby all protection maps (oil, coolant, egt, intake temp etc etc) are all turned off. Why are they turned off? because when tuning they rather not spend the time calibrating accurately and secondly they don't want the limiter kicking in during their markets dyno pull's or thirdly they just turn them off because they have little idea why are they in place.

If you really want to know how quick your car is then do a timed run before and after, something like a 100 to 200km/h test.

Cheers
 
Yes about torque I was saying because they offer 206 bhp and almost 300 lb/ft from 236 and that s going to fry the clutch


Except it isn't as it's false .
Anyway more truthful quote around 290 lbft anyway which isn't an issue for a healthy 240mm clutch .

The marketing..

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Has anyone genuinely been mapped by Darkside to be promoting them; took two days to make mine a laggy underpowered mess which was fortunately put right by Unicorn (no doubt others are also good. Darkside are second to none for parts and labour but no idea what they're doing with a computer, meshes with Darkside's foundations really always been a hardware company not software).
 
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They did have the most uneven mountainous torque spikes that would destroy a clutch in a week as they pushed for figures .

I would of thought they can now produce a smooth one .
 
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I would of thought they can now produce a smooth one .

Feel free to be a guinea pig, bit optimistic coming from someone who's been posting and slating their work, guess this is just more online flattery with no experience.
 
Show progression, been their old and new facility theirs a reason they put customer cars behind locked gates.