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Anyone know the changes to the pistons, cams and compression ratio on the DNWA engine? Would like to get this info before I start tuning the car
 
I am also interested in this info. I can check part numbers in ETKA, if someone is willing to share their DAZA VIN number on private.. :)
 
I am also interested in this info. I can check part numbers in ETKA, if someone is willing to share their DAZA VIN number on private.. :)

I don’t think anyone on here will share their VIN number, but you never know


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Now there they say the pistons are the same, but mention the turbo.. Come on..
 
There a chap on here called evo855. He works for Audi and as explained the new compression ratios I’m sure in a thread on here about the new engine, might be worth sending him a PM on this
 
Someone was kind enough to share their VIN with me, so here's what I found out during a quick look into both engines. So mainly the part numbers are the same, aside from the last revision numbers, which I honestly have no idea what they mean. So for example:
DAZA/DNWA:
- Engine Block: 07K 100 032 J / 07K 100 032 K
- Cylinder Head: 07K 103 064 C / 07K 103 064 D
- Pistons: 07K 107 065 AB / 07K 107 065 AC
- Outlet camshaft: 07K 109 022 E / 07K 109 022 F

There are several more differences (waaay too much to list, but mainly the same). Even intercooler has a different revision number. But inlet camshaft is the same and turbo is the same.

The bigger differences seem to be with fuel pump and intake manifold, which are even separated in the catalog. The part numbers for main part:
- Fuel pump: 07K 127 025 D / 07K 127 025 E
- Intake manifold: 07K 133 201 AT / 07K 133 201 BC

Some other interesting facts:
- Backboxes seem to be largely the same (again only revision is different, but can't compare directly, as the DAZA VIN I had has standard, not sport exhaust).
- DNWA has no midpipes like DAZA, but rather downpipe and midpipes seem to be one part.
- Exhaust manifold is the same.
- ECU is the same, except for revision again.
- Transmission has completely different code.

Again, note that I am no expert, just wrote what I noticed. If you're looking for one specific difference, please let me know and I will look it up. I have no idea how to check compression ratio, or what those revision changes mean. I know in some cases it can mean completely different internals, when on others it's just newer production date, so if anyone else can shed some light, that would be awesome!
 
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Someone was kind enough to share their VIN with me, so here's what I found out during a quick look into both engines. So mainly the part numbers are the same, aside from the last revision numbers, which I honestly have no idea what they mean. So for example:
DAZA/DNWA:
- Engine Block: 07K 100 032 J / 07K 100 032 K
- Cylinder Head: 07K 103 064 C / 07K 103 064 D
- Pistons: 07K 107 065 AB / 07K 107 065 AC
- Outlet camshaft: 07K 109 022 E / 07K 109 022 F

There are several more differences (waaay too much to list, but mainly the same). Even intercooler has a different revision number. But inlet camshaft is the same and turbo is the same.

The bigger differences seem to be with fuel pump and intake manifold, which are even separated in the catalog. The part numbers for main part:
- Fuel pump: 07K 127 025 D / 07K 127 025 E
- Intake manifold: 07K 133 201 AT / 07K 133 201 BC

Some other interesting facts:
- Backboxes seem to be largely the same (again only revision is different, but can't compare directly, as the DAZA VIN I had has standard, not sport exhaust).
- DNWA has no midpipes like DAZA, but rather downpipe and midpipes seem to be one part.
- Exhaust manifold is the same.
- ECU is the same, except for revision again.
- Transmission has completely different code.

Again, note that I am no expert, just wrote what I noticed. If you're looking for one specific difference, please let me know and I will look it up. I have no idea how to check compression ratio, or what those revision changes mean. I know in some cases it can mean completely different internals, when on others it's just newer production date, so if anyone else can shed some light, that would be awesome!

Revision letters can mean a variety of different things my friend at audi tells me.
From a new parts supplier to a design change / part revision
Sometimes parts for a say 2017 model are interchangeable on a later model part, but there are times where a later model revised part will NOT fit an earlier car, this is often because there is a fundamental design / software change and the car wouldn’t run with it fitted.
 
Revision letters can mean a variety of different things my friend at audi tells me.
From a new parts supplier to a design change / part revision
Sometimes parts for a say 2017 model are interchangeable on a later model part, but there are times where a later model revised part will NOT fit an earlier car, this is often because there is a fundamental design / software change and the car wouldn’t run with it fitted.

Yeah, you're absolutely correct! The example of this is ECU, which is the same part generally, but vastly different firmware. It cannot be interchanged with 2018's one at all. But who knows if it would work, if you flashed it with 2018's firmware and then used it in 2018. For example in one case, the driving aid camera, I could flash a 2016 one with 2018's firmware, because hardware was the same and then it could be used with other 2018 components. But I have no idea what does it mean in relation to engine block, pistons, cylinder heads, etc. Would love if someone else would shed some light on that..
 
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Bbbbbut, but, but, Carwow's comedic YouTubers test says they are slow, and TX says Audi ruined the RS3 forever and ever. You mean they can still go fast? I don't believe it!

That’s a bit strong........

No need for bad language.
 
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Bbbbbut, but, but, Carwow's comedic YouTubers test says they are slow, and TwatinatorX says Audi ruined the RS3 forever and ever. You mean they can still go fast? I don't believe it!
Lol calm down :tearsofjoy:

As you well know my comments are about the standard car but don't let facts stop you ranting.

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Lol calm down :tearsofjoy:

As you well know my comments are about the standard car but don't let facts stop you ranting.

TX.

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I think you touched a raw nerve!
 
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You’re still confusing your invalid and baseless opinion and inflated ego with actual facts ;)

Sorry to have offended anyone’s delicate sensibilities. But this guys incessant non-factual posts on OPF cars just make him a complete ****** and I felt something needed to be said. Just look at his post history.
his 4000+ post history :whistle2:
 
Nowt wrong with TX he’s owned a lot of nice cars......:friends:
 
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I watched two more video's yesterday that demonstrated a DWNA TTRS limp launching. That new carwow video where it was notably soft, then the 5th Gear episode (where it won their £50k sport car challenge) - Jason Plato driving, said it launched softer than the other cars but then came in hard.

All the vids and the few 0-60 dragy posts show it a lot more drivetrain sympathetic and thus slower to launch. I wonder if that has allowed them to lift the 200 LC limit? It's probably a sensible approach and obviously intentional. And no doubt it can be amped up via a remap, perhaps there are VCDS options where this can be tweaked as well.

I can't find any representative data on Dragy for 2019 OPF models (EU), it would be interesting to see a stock '19 RS3/TTRS 1/4 mile stats from Dragy, or more ideally 0-100kmh and 0-200kmh as I have a reasonable amount of data. No doubt over the coming months it will all start coming out, along with tuned examples like the MRC car that will prove (1) it's not massively down on power in stock form and (2) with the OPF removed for stage 2 there's nothing in it.
 
my 2019 did 4.2 0-60 in the wet with some wheel hop (draggy). I guess it would just nudge under 4 in the dry? Feels quick and thats me coming from an 700bhp RS7
 
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You’re still confusing your invalid and baseless opinion and inflated ego with actual facts ;)

Sorry to have offended anyone’s delicate sensibilities.

The guy posts incessantly on how terrible and slow OPF cars are (in his own mighty opinion). Just look at his post history. He’s a complete ******, and its about time someone said it.
Name calling, how very dare you :tearsofjoy:

The car launches slower, fact. Time you got over it.


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Can we all calm it down a bit folks please

Don't want to have to lock the thread but if it carries on I will

Thanks in advance peoples

Much love BH
 
Can we all calm it down a bit folks please

Don't want to have to lock the thread but if it carries on I will

Thanks in advance peoples

Much love BH

Funny how I got a ban for using the word Twit

Where’s the supposed “RS3 section” moderator today then.....?
 
I have my good friend on block so he can rant until he is blue in the face now.

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