Facelift Parking sensors

AlS3BE said:
What is it that’s stopping it displaying on the mmi?
Is it the mmi unit? The parking module? Both?
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Parking Module.
AlS3BE said:
I might be a bit simplistic but can’t you just swap the 5qa module with the 5qo and code it to work?
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Never tired, could be overall compatibility issues though due to the different feature sets of each module and brand.
AlS3BE said:
Was reading something on the Ross tech forums a while ago and this worked with the pdc module with 5q0 and doesn’t with the 5qa in the facelifts. There was mention of flashing the module with vw/Skoda software to replace the Audi one, sounds like parameterisation?
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Flashing and parameterisation = two different things. Flashing an Audi parking module with Skoda firmware will probably brick the control module to be honest. Am more than willing to try if someone wants to donate the needed modules :)
AlS3BE said:
I might be a bit simplistic but can’t you just swap the 5qa module with the 5qo and code it to work?
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See answer to 2nd quote.

This is going to make me sound like I am up my own ****, because I ask not gonna say how, but I do actually know how to activate parking display on a rear sensor only facelift parking module... well I know one way which may not be the same as Hazzy Days, however knowing whats needed and being able to do it are two very different things :( In short I don't have access to whats needed and only a small group of people do, and they will not share with anyone for any price it seems. My guess is Hazzy Days are actually buying modules from a suppler "pre-hacked" if you like, fitting them and adding a "Hazzy Tax" on top.
 
DJAlix said:
Parking Module.

Never tired, could be overall compatibility issues though due to the different feature sets of each module and brand.
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Is it worth a try? I’m happy being a guinea pig.
There’s a few golf r getting broken near me so can see if I can swipe the module and try.
I have access to the old vcds cable but don’t have a clue where the pdc module is in the car to swap and try. It shouldn’t break or fry anything else if it’s not compatible?
If someone can let me know where the module sit and confirm I can’t really break anything else I will give it a go if I can get my hands on a 5q0 module.
 
AlS3BE said:
Is it worth a try? I’m happy being a guinea pig.
There’s a few golf r getting broken near me so can see if I can swipe the module and try.
I have access to the old vcds cable but don’t have a clue where the pdc module is in the car to swap and try. It shouldn’t break or fry anything else if it’s not compatible?
If someone can let me know where the module sit and confirm I can’t really break anything else I will give it a go if I can get my hands on a 5q0 module.
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Module is located by / on top of the accelerator pedal, mounted on its side and held in with two plastic pressure clips, one top and one bottom. The connector ports face towards the rear of the vehicle.
 
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Do you have xml files left in your Odis cache? Any chance you have a parameter set for the pdc module of a Golf 7 Facelift? Module is exactly the same, same partnumber, same softwareversion......heck even coding is almost the same!

Left is Golf 7 Facelift and right is Audi A3 8V Facelift



A3 8V Facelift Limousine
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RJ-8V said:
@DJAlix

Do you have xml files left in your Odis cache? Any chance you have a parameter set for the pdc module of a Golf 7 Facelift? Module is exactly the same, same partnumber, same softwareversion......heck even coding is almost the same!

Left is Golf 7 Facelift and right is Audi A3 8V Facelift



A3 8V Facelift Limousine
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Never retrofitted one as VW’s here in the UK tend to have a high level of specification in order to compete with other brands, unlike our Audi’s. Never had to replace one also.
 
DJAlix said:
Never retrofitted one as VW’s here in the UK tend to have a high level of specification in order to compete with other brands, unlike our Audi’s. Never had to replace one also.
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Same problem here. So best chance is to replace the module.

i will check my logs of a Golf 7 GTI Clubsport. I've parametrised and coded Traffic Jam Assist and Emergency Assist on it. It only had rear pdc, will check the module. Was one of the last prefacelifts Golf 7, so maybe it has a compatible module.

Edit: checked and no, different module. However i found that the Skoda Superb has exactly the same module / software and (almost) same coding as the facelift A3 8V.......

A3 8V Facelift Limousine
 
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DJAlix said:
Module is located by / on top of the accelerator pedal, mounted on its side and held in with two plastic pressure clips, one top and one bottom. The connector ports face towards the rear of the vehicle.
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Going to see the guy tomorrow. I’m actually after the wheels if they are in good nick as I’m looking for winter wheels so might see if I can get the module thrown in.
Is there anything special I need to do or is it just unplug and plug the other module in? Coding for car to accept the new module? Only ever coded a cars with existing equipment and most complex was a towbar. Never tried coding a different module in always just replacement like for like.
 
AlS3BE said:
Going to see the guy tomorrow. I’m actually after the wheels if they are in good nick as I’m looking for winter wheels so might see if I can get the module thrown in.
Is there anything special I need to do or is it just unplug and plug the other module in? Coding for car to accept the new module? Only ever coded a cars with existing equipment and most complex was a towbar. Never tried coding a different module in always just replacement like for like.
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I think you need the Skoda Superb module with only rear sensors. The Golf is 8channel and you need 4 channel.

A3 8V Facelift Limousine
 
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RJ-8V said:
I think you need the Skoda Superb module with only rear sensors. The Golf is 8channel and you need 4 channel.

A3 8V Facelift Limousine
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Might take a trip to the breakers and see what I find
 
Module A3 8V 4channel:

Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:| 5Q0-919-283.clb
Part No SW: 5QA 919 283 A HW: 5QA 919 283
Component: PDC 4 KanalH07 0038
Serial number: 000308419617025
Coding: 0600040011
Shop #: WSC 06314 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000 009029
ROD: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000_009_VW37.rod
VCID: 48C8A90FC23E8107D21-801C

Skoda Superb mk3 8V 4channel:
Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:| 5Q0-919-283.clb
Part No SW: 5QA 919 283 B HW: 5QA 919 283
Component: PDC 4 KanalH07 0044
Serial number: 000308419617314
Coding: 0601050011
Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00158
ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000 009033
ROD: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000_009_AU37.rod
VCID: 499EC70EE850630D22-801C

Only the software version is different, but that should not be a problem. If i look at the dataset, it looks like it contains the same projectcode (AU37)
 
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RJ-8V said:
I think you need the Skoda Superb module with only rear sensors. The Golf is 8channel and you need 4 channel.

A3 8V Facelift Limousine
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Might take a trip to the breakers and see what I find or see if my mates seat has the module.
 
Well have it a bash.
Got my hand on one but not sure what car it came out of but part numbers is older 5q0 where as my new facelift is 5QA.
Didn’t get it to work but was running out of daylight so will give it another try tomorrow.
The old module works like the new one with beeps but no display.
I did notice that both module has 2 plug sockets on the back but only 1 is used. Is it something to do with the other socket?
 

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AlS3BE said:
Yes. Will give it another try later.
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Copy paste your old coding into the new one. Try it :)

Also you need to make some adaptions changes in 5f

A3 8V Facelift Limousine
 
RJ-8V said:
Copy paste your old coding into the new one. Try it :)

Also you need to make some adaptions changes in 5f

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What adaptation in 5f do I need?
Cause I’m using the old hex can cable it says it’s not compatible.
 
AlS3BE said:
Well have it a bash.
Got my hand on one but not sure what car it came out of but part numbers is older 5q0 where as my new facelift is 5QA.
Didn’t get it to work but was running out of daylight so will give it another try tomorrow.
The old module works like the new one with beeps but no display.
I did notice that both module has 2 plug sockets on the back but only 1 is used. Is it something to do with the other socket?
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On the 5QA 8 channel module I can confirm there are 2 lever operated plugs/sockets. The smaller 18 pin connects to the front sensors using 6 wires, a common supply pair and and 4 sensor inputs. The larger 26 pin connector connects the rear sensors, front and back sounders, switch and light, power and earth and the CAN bus HI LO pair.

I'm guessing the 5Q0 may be the same. Did you acquire the plugs and a bit or the harness. Would have the makings of a good testbed or dare I say programming station.
 
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I just unplugged mine and plugged the 5q0 module in and see if the car could see in vcds. Coded it and nothing on screen. Still works as it should with beeps like my 5qa with no errors or compatibility issues. Part came from a vw. Not sure which one. Sent my mate to breakers and they had one for a tenner so I took it to test.
Will try again later and see if it can be coded.
Looking on eBay these modules go for anything from £15-50 second hand.
If you can get second hand modules for a tenner pre programmed, parameterised then that might be your cheapest bet rather than finding someone or dealer to do it with your virgin modules.
 
Wait. I will give you the 5f coding for visual display. Try that first.

A3 8V Facelift Limousine
 
AlS3BE said:
I just unplugged mine and plugged the 5q0 module in and see if the car could see in vcds. Coded it and nothing on screen. Still works as it should with beeps like my 5qa with no errors or compatibility issues. Part came from a vw. Not sure which one. Sent my mate to breakers and they had one for a tenner so I took it to test.
Will try again later and see if it can be coded.
Looking on eBay these modules go for anything from £15-50 second hand.
If you can get second hand modules for a tenner pre programmed, parameterised then that might be your cheapest bet rather than finding someone or dealer to do it with your virgin modules.
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5F Adaptions:

ENG122229-ENG117710-Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2-parking_assist_0x0A activated
ENG122229-ENG117711-Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2-parking_assist_0x0A_msg_bus Terminal 15

ENG122227-ENG117496-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_pdc activated
ENG122227-ENG117500-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_pdc_after_disclaimer not activated
ENG122227-ENG117497-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_pdc_clamp_15_off not activated
ENG122227-ENG117498-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_pdc_over_threshold_high not activated
ENG122227-ENG117499-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_pdc_standstill not activated

Check these adaption channels. Reset your MMI
 
RJ-8V said:
5F Adaptions:

ENG122229-ENG117710-Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2-parking_assist_0x0A activated
ENG122229-ENG117711-Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2-parking_assist_0x0A_msg_bus Terminal 15

ENG122227-ENG117496-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_pdc activated
ENG122227-ENG117500-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_pdc_after_disclaimer not activated
ENG122227-ENG117497-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_pdc_clamp_15_off not activated
ENG122227-ENG117498-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_pdc_over_threshold_high not activated
ENG122227-ENG117499-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_pdc_standstill not activated

Check these adaption channels. Reset your MMI
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Checked them all and they look the same.
Coded the parking module to 000050011 and still no display just beeps.
Must be something in the mmi that’s stopping it.
 
AlS3BE said:
Checked them all and they look the same.
Coded the parking module to 000050011 and still no display just beeps.
Must be something in the mmi that’s stopping it.
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Reset mmi?

A3 8V Facelift Limousine
 
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AlS3BE said:
How can I tell it’s a Skoda module?
They all have same part number or do I have to find a specific one?
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Specific one, because your car has exactly the same module

A3 8V Facelift Limousine
 
RJ-8V said:
Specific one, because your car has exactly the same module

A3 8V Facelift Limousine
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The only difference was the 5qa on my Fl and 5q0 on the one I tried.
What part number should I be looking for? They all seem to end with the same number. Just the first digits slightly differ
 
AlS3BE said:
The only difference was the 5qa on my Fl and 5q0 on the one I tried.
What part number should I be looking for? They all seem to end with the same number. Just the first digits slightly differ
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Skoda Superb mk3 8V 4channel:
Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:| 5Q0-919-283.clb
Part No SW: 5QA 919 283 B HW: 5QA 919 283
Component: PDC 4 KanalH07 0044
Serial number: 000308419617314
Coding: 0601050011
Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00158
ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000 009033
ROD: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000_009_AU37.rod
VCID: 499EC70EE850630D22-801C

This one. It has to come from a Skoda Superb..then it his the Skoda parameters.

A3 8V Facelift Limousine
 
RJ-8V said:
Skoda Superb mk3 8V 4channel:
Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:| 5Q0-919-283.clb
Part No SW: 5QA 919 283 B HW: 5QA 919 283
Component: PDC 4 KanalH07 0044
Serial number: 000308419617314
Coding: 0601050011
Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00158
ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000 009033
ROD: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000_009_AU37.rod
VCID: 499EC70EE850630D22-801C

This one. It has to come from a Skoda Superb..then it his the Skoda parameters.

A3 8V Facelift Limousine
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Is there a way to load the Skoda parameters over the Audi?
 
AlS3BE said:
Is there a way to load the Skoda parameters over the Audi?
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Yeah....find a Skoda with the module, switch it with yours and reparametrise it with Odis haha.

There arent parameters available for this module for systems like VCP

A3 8V Facelift Limousine
 
RJ-8V said:
Yeah....find a Skoda with the module, switch it with yours and reparametrise it with Odis haha.

There arent parameters available for this module for systems like VCP

A3 8V Facelift Limousine
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It’s a bit pot luck trying to get one with the right parameters/software. They all have the same part number. :wink:
 
If you know exactly which Skoda model has the part you require it may be worth looking at be-exclusiv on EBay. This is a German dismantlers and the parts are described with the donor cars exact model, year, mileage and VIN number. I purchased some of my U/S sensors from them - excellent company to deal with.
 
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Aniel1991 said:
Hi all On my 18 8v s3 whenever i stick it in reverse the parking sensor display doesnt come up on the screen like my sisters 16 a3 is this an optional extra as i only get the beeps to notify and not the display i didnt realise it was an extra if it is
Thanks
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Depends on the pack fitted. Base rear only don’t have display, certainly on early 13/14 models. We have had 5 8V from 2014 (A3, S3 and RS3)all with front and rear parking, all with display.
 
I have just swapped my 5Q0 to a 5QA 919 283 B from a 2018 Skoda Octavia 3. Still no visual display.
 
Did you change adaptions in 5F for display
 
AlS3BE said:
Did you change any coding for the new unit?
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I did not changed any coding since I have a PFL 8V and my original coding was "out of range" for the 5QA.
After that I have checked the text coding and it seemed OK (manual transmission, show OPS, etc) I wasn't sure in the bit of "rear lid" in case of sedan.
Furthermore, I got an incident - "ESP_33 keine signal/komminakation" - it is probably caused by the ABS 5Q0907379G, which should be also updated.
 
seuzo said:
I did not changed any coding since I have a PFL 8V and my original coding was "out of range" for the 5QA.
After that I have checked the text coding and it seemed OK (manual transmission, show OPS, etc) I wasn't sure in the bit of "rear lid" in case of sedan.
Furthermore, I got an incident - "ESP_33 keine signal/komminakation" - it is probably caused by the ABS 5Q0907379G, which should be also updated.
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If you have Pfl why did you change the module?! Only do coding on pfl module for display. Thats it.
 
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