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I bought a 2018 RS3 a little over two years ago. I traded in my 2011 Mk6 GTI that I had also bought new back in 2010.

I never really loved the RS3, not the way I expected to love a car like the RS3 and not the way I loved my old GTI. Initially I was super excited and happy of course, but as the newness wears off I cant shake the feeling that I just don't enjoy the car.

Why? Lots of reasons that are hard to pinpoint. The biggest reason is that I basically never get to use the full power of the car, I rarely even find myself pushing the car to half its capability. Having more power than you need isn't a bad thing per se, but I'm sacrificing fuel economy and maintenance costs for something I can't use.

Of course I knew fuel economy would take a hit going from a four cylinder 200hp car to a 5-cylinder 400hp. But even when I try to drive in a frugal manner I get 350km to a tank in the Audi. I would drive the heck out of the GTI and still get around 500km to a tank. I find myself taking the shortest routes and no longer driving just for fun because of this and that's sad because driving for pleasure was one of my favourite activities.

I also often find myself rolling down the windows to reassure myself that the "RS" sound is indeed there. Other people sometimes tell me it's a loud car, but I don't really hear it. I expected the RS3 to be the kind of car you'd take through a tunnel just to hear the engine note but it's hasn't been that way for me.

I just had my second annual service done, and I need new tires after less than 20,oookms. This is without any track use, without any spirited driving even because of what I mentioned above. Just basic street and highway driving. They also informed me I'll probably be needing new brakes next year... seems a little soon for both tires and brakes, especially considering I do commuter-type driving. Is it just the nature of an RS car to burn through these things regardless of driving style?

So as the time has come for me to spend money on the RS3's upkeep I've gone from kind of liking my car to not really liking it at all. I know an Audi fan forum isn't the ideal place to make this post but I thought some here might have some advice or similar experience.

I don't know what to do, and one of my tires has a bulge on the side which makes me feel like I need to make a quick decision.

Cheers!
 
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Even if you were to sell the car you'd need to replace that tyre first. Do that and then look at your options. Owning an RS is a financial commitment that's not for everyone. On a positive note , I'm sure the RS will make good money and as such open up your options.
 
This is very honest and I have a friend who has an RS3, he would agree with on the fact that the power is rarely used but it says it's good to know you have it.

The question is, is the Golf GTi the only car you'll ever need? It looks like it might be.
 
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Imho the RS3 is two cars in one, potter around in comfort doing the day to day slog then open it up in dynamic when the mood takes you. O/T but I had a blast through the lanes a few weeks ago at about 10pm on the way home from somewhere and it was awesome. Can't do that to the same extent in a Golf imho.

I didn't find the RS3 expensive to run tbf.

If you're out of love then get rid though.

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To be honest I totally agree, bought a new RS3 saloon last September, took me over 6 months to run it in, and sold it with 1300 miles on the clock a couple of weeks ago... rightly or wrongly it just didn’t tick all the boxes for me and although sounded epic (AVC installed) , (don’t hurt me) just didn’t feel special to drive. And unless you knew Audi’s and what to look for everyone I knew thought it was a normal A3..

Don’t get me wrong I’m far from vein(bald head and all that!) but the RS made me fall out of love with driving.. it was fast , shiney , clinical and automatic.. and for me numb.. I think that’s what killed it for me..

I’m now back in a lotus where all my petrol-headed dreams started 20 years ago.. I’ve done 620miles in 2 weeks(desperately trying to run in) as I just want to drive it at every opportunity..

I’m not bashing the RS in anyway.. ‘tomato / tomato’ it just wasn’t engaging enough for me!

Still read this forums daily though.. after all we’re creatures of habit

:EDIT FYI I hardly lost anything at all on it, it’s retained its worth incredibly well!
 
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I do get this point the OP is saying.

We had a MK6 Golf GTI in 2011 which replaced a 2010 S3 SB.
The GTI was a hell of a car to drive on country roads, so well balanced and seemed unflappable, plus with the smaller turbo it picked up really quickly.

Also went from a PFL RS3 to a FL G7R which again is a ****** great car to drive on twisty roads, but the soundtrack is just not really there.

Hence my return to the RS3 in FL form.

I’m normally getting itchy feet at the 18 month point, I even looked at the TCR Golf last week, now that’s a stunning car to drive, was very tempted but same problem exists with it as on the R, lack of character from the engine.......

I’ve done quite a lot of things that have made my RS3 FL better, so much so it’s made it difficult to contemplate changing it for something else.
 
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Wow! Thumbs up to the OP for this honest review. Great read.

I to want to trade in my amazing and heavily Golf 7R for the FL RS3 hatch or limo. But can't seam to justify the extra cost nor if I'll be more happy....

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I can see it as well, I went from a 2016 Golf R to a 2016 PFL RS3 4 months ago and still flip flop between loving it and feeling a bit meh.

The Golf was such a good car but lacked character, plus I'd had it from new with the RS3 being used which also takes some shine off.

Now I've got some of the niggles sorted it's feeling a lot better, and do enjoy driving it, but still miss the Golf!
 
Welcome to Audi performance, devastatingly effective modes of transport but for inducing passion??
 
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I wonder whether this issue is not so much down to the RS3 per se but high performance cars in general. Its rare you can exploit 400 BHP on our busy public roads, and even harder with AWD as you will never get to the limits of the car

There is alot to be said for 200-250bhp being the sweet spot where you can enjoy revving out the engine and feel like you are pushing the car at safer speeds

As manufacturers chase higher BHP and o-60 times the percentage of performance you can actually use day to day decreases which is a shame. The new M3/4 will have 500bhp and X Drive. Great, but aside from on track that is not going to make my trip to Tesco, or a B road blast more enjoyable
 
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Wow! Thumbs up to the OP for this honest review. Great read.

I to want to trade in my amazing and heavily Golf 7R for the FL RS3 hatch or limo. But can't seam to justify the extra cost nor if I'll be more happy....

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Only a test drive can tell you, not many people I’ve come across don’t like the RS3.
 
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Only a test drive can tell you, not many people I’ve come across don’t like the RS3.
Have driven one on track and streets. But only for a short time. Not mutch to compare against every day driving...
But hey! I still want one in my heart...

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Have driven one on track and streets. But only for a short time. Not mutch to compare against every day driving...
But hey! I still want one in my heart...

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You Only live once, go for it if the figures stack up in your favour
 
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Lol we never had this sort of negativity with the PFL *lights blue touch paper*

TX.

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You Only live once, go for it if the figures stack up in your favour
A nice used RS3 8v facelift is £66000,- her in Norway

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RS Q3 is the answer. Drive one like an RS3 and you'll be barrel rolling into a field at the first corner. That makes it a more interesting drive than just squeezing the throttle and cornering like Automan. You get the same sound, better brakes and more involvement. Crowbar the badges off and the boy racers leave you alone, too!
 
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I wonder whether this issue is not so much down to the RS3 per se but high performance cars in general. Its rare you can exploit 400 BHP on our busy public roads, and even harder with AWD as you will never get to the limits of the car

There is alot to be said for 200-250bhp being the sweet spot where you can enjoy revving out the engine and feel like you are pushing the car at safer speeds

You may have hit the nail on the head with this.
In the last decade, I've had a Merc C63, Nissan GT-R, x2 M3's, Golf R amongst others and you know what, I've never actually loved any car I've owned and not kept one for more than 18 months or so. Maybe perfect isn't actually out there (for me at least) but one of my fondest memories is ragging a Fiat 500 Arbath I had down a country road going fully through the gears and actually being able to exploit it without doing silly speeds. You just couldn't do this with any previous higher powered car I had on public roads as they had to much power/speed.
 
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Interesting thread. I had 2 golf Rs - really liked both but got bored in the end. I then got a merc E63s which had masses of power, sounded amazing but was really too big and probablyttoo powerful to properly enjoy on normal roads (plus, it was also really unreliable), so got rid within the year. Since then I've been driving my trusty mk2 golf gti which I've had 20 years while I decide what to do next. The golf only had 145bhp (about 450 less than the e63) when it was new but is still great fun.

I'm on this forum because I'd decided I just like hot hatches - the RS3 looks on paper to be everything I want but the original post resonates with my doubts. Other contenders are m3 e90 or f30, bmw m140... (I need 5 seats).. Or just drive the gti until it dies!

(edit. note, I haven't driven one yet, so all this rs3 negativity could well be blown away when I do)
 
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Imho the RS3 is two cars in one, potter around in comfort doing the day to day slog then open it up in dynamic when the mood takes you. O/T but I had a blast through the lanes a few weeks ago at about 10pm on the way home from somewhere and it was awesome. Can't do that to the same extent in a Golf imho.

I didn't find the RS3 expensive to run tbf.

If you're out of love then get rid though.

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I agree with that. Ran my 2016 RS3 for 2 years and it was cheaper to run than an S3.


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Imho the RS3 is two cars in one, potter around in comfort doing the day to day slog then open it up in dynamic when the mood takes you. O/T but I had a blast through the lanes a few weeks ago at about 10pm on the way home from somewhere and it was awesome. Can't do that to the same extent in a Golf imho.

Do you still have one then?
 
I agree with that. Ran my 2016 RS3 for 2 years and it was cheaper to run than an S3.


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Jeeeeeeeeeeesus RG .... how many profile icons you got listed lol :tearsofjoy:
 
To the OP,
You could have probably saved quite a bit of money and bought an 8P Rs3 (that's what I went for and as alluring as an 8V is, It's alot of money for something that's a bit better) but over an 8P Rs3 it's difficult to justify, yes, it's an older car and if you drive it incorrectly it understeers and the brakes are poor (bearing in mind it's an RS) but it adds character by not being perfect, I don't like the interior of the 8V and if you ask me they tried to make it do everything really well which isn't really what the RS3 is IMO (it's an a3 with a quattro engine in, has a dual clutch gearbox and has launch control) I think audi went wrong by making it too refined and ending up with something that's amazing but a bit numb
 
Ran my 2016 RS3 for 2 years and it was cheaper to run than an S3.
This is completely impossible!
Even if they both never turned a wheel over that period the RS3 would still cost more. :D

I await your response. :innocent:
 
This is completely impossible!
Even if they both never turned a wheel over that period the RS3 would still cost more. :D

I await your response. :innocent:
Depreciation?
 
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I guess it depends on where you live and how you drive as well. Back before my rs3 and mk7r we had an mk5 r32. My issue with that car was there wasn't enough grunt and it was easy to push to the limit, even on back roads. Sounded amazing and very linear but it was a bit of a pig, especially after 100km/h where you'd think a bigger displacement would help.. it was only stock so 250bhp or thereabouts.

Then when I got the 7r I eventually went stage 2 so approx 400bhp and found the power quite usable as in I regularly am on full throttle and out of roundabouts/corners I pick up speed very rapidly. My issue with the 7r was the sound which is why I'm in an rs3 now.

Now if you mean you want to stay out of license losing territory at all times then yes you probably won't be using half of the cars capabilities, but every now and then if you go for a drive in some quiet areas where the roads are nice you can have a lot of fun with it. It doesn't sound like street racing is your thing but little "races" on the highway or open roads are also fun. Depends where you live though.

Maybe start with some sound modifications? I'm waiting on a valve controller so I can keep the valves open 24/7 which i've heard good things about, maybe a down pipe as well if you're unhappy with the sound at the moment? I'm in a pfl but even in stop and go traffic I'm addicted to the sound, can't imagine the fl is any different aside from the pops and bangs on downshift.

I wouldn't know where to go to after an rs3 to be fair, never liked BMW's and the Merc's with their new ugly elongated ipad screens look awful. Maybe an rs6 or r8 if I won the lotto lol.
 
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I wonder whether this issue is not so much down to the RS3 per se but high performance cars in general. Its rare you can exploit 400 BHP on our busy public roads, and even harder with AWD as you will never get to the limits of the car

There is alot to be said for 200-250bhp being the sweet spot where you can enjoy revving out the engine and feel like you are pushing the car at safer speeds

As manufacturers chase higher BHP and o-60 times the percentage of performance you can actually use day to day decreases which is a shame. The new M3/4 will have 500bhp and X Drive. Great, but aside from on track that is not going to make my trip to Tesco, or a B road blast more enjoyable

I think there's some mileage in this. Sorry for sneaking into the RS3 forum but I've recently bought a 2018 RS5 as I've always wanted an Audi RS having come from a line of diesel company cars. I've owned some fun cars over the years (Lotus's, Westfields) and wanted something that was fairly practical (I have a 2 1/2 year old daughter) and fun to drive but although the car is ****** quick like the RS3, it's almost too quick for the roads I drive on. Bury your right foot and you're doing 90 before you know it but it all feels a bit numb. If I lost this car on a bend I'd be doing something very wrong and I'd be in a lot of trouble.
Might have to get an old Mk2 Escort where you can have fun at 30mph.
 
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I think there's some mileage in this. Sorry for sneaking into the RS3 forum but I've recently bought a 2018 RS5 as I've always wanted an Audi RS having come from a line of diesel company cars. I've owned some fun cars over the years (Lotus's, Westfields) and wanted something that was fairly practical (I have a 2 1/2 year old daughter) and fun to drive but although the car is ****** quick like the RS3, it's almost too quick for the roads I drive on. Bury your right foot and you're doing 90 before you know it but it all feels a bit numb. If I lost this car on a bend I'd be doing something very wrong and I'd be in a lot of trouble.
Might have to get an old Mk2 Escort where you can have fun at 30mph.

Got to agree. I came from a 700bhp RS7. Strange as it might seem, pretty boring unless doing stupid speeds. My RS3 is great fun at way lower speeds.
 
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