Next model A3

Hybrids and plug-in hybrids for petrols, diesels, even the RS3.
It's the future.
The Kitt styled dash isn't growing on me yet.
 
What Car images and not the real car no doubt.
 
Liking the saloon, tasty. Enough difference to change, unlikely. FL8V going to look current for a loooonnnggggggg time yet.
 
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That high sided all road version is absolutely honking :puke2:.

No doubt it will sell in big numbers due to the obsession with cross overs, 4x4 cars etc.
 
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The Sport back just looks like an A1. So much so I thought your first post was a picture of the A1.

The Saloon is still the best looking Audi in profile. Don't think it look much different from the current car. I'm guessing that picture must be the S3?

Not keen on the new front though. It's just a shame the next S3 will be £40k+ out of the box before a single option will have been ticked. So a half decent spec S3 will be £45-46K.

I'm also guessing DSG only?
 
interesting article and suggested timeline:

The new Audi A3: What's coming when

A3 five-door: early 2020

A3 saloon: mid-2020

A3 E-tron: mid to late 2020

S3 hatch and saloon: late 2020

RS3 : early 2021

A3 liftback: 2021

A3 Allroad: mid-2021
 
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I think it looks pretty decent if that’s what the next A3 range will look like. Better than I thought at least.
 
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interesting article and suggested timeline:

The new Audi A3: What's coming when

A3 five-door: early 2020

A3 saloon: mid-2020

A3 E-tron: mid to late 2020

S3 hatch and saloon: late 2020

RS3 : early 2021

A3 liftback: 2021

A3 Allroad: mid-2021
If it's faster ie more powerful than my current car? I really will consider another S3 saloon
 
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If it's faster ie more powerful than my current car? I really will consider another S3 saloon

Same here although it may depend on list price & what discount Audi will offer. They tend to be quite tight on brand new models so depending on what figures they propose, I may defer doing a deal until they are prepared to discount by at least 10%. Who knows, if sales continue to be slow they may be pushing hard for new car sales even on launch.
 
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Doesn’t look like BMW have got the balance quite right on the new 135i.
 
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Liking the saloon, tasty. Enough difference to change, unlikely. FL8V going to look current for a loooonnnggggggg time yet.
Quite agree but to be honest the PFL 8V still looks current in my opinion.

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Is this the new saloon or the "liftback"? It looks like a shutline in front of the rear roof spoiler as if the whole rear window area opens. Whichever it is, I like it.

Audi a3 sportback new final
 
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Is this the new saloon or the "liftback"? It looks like a shutline in front of the rear roof spoiler as if the whole rear window area opens.

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Looking at the depth of those windows there'll be no headroom in the back...or the front. Usual coupe form over function. Saloon looks better - but not in that Rover SD1 silver-blue.
Do Audi release images with such awful wheels so buyers are relieved when they aren't fitted once the car reaches production?
 
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Those aren't Audi images.
 
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Bit cryptic....Does what??

As it says in the attachment I quoted... it controls its own position, acceleration and braking on the motorway. Looking up the article, it also shows you petrol prices in your area, which is the other thing it mentions in the headline. So what's the new bit?
 
As it says in the attachment I quoted... it controls its own position, acceleration and braking on the motorway. Looking up the article, it also shows you petrol prices in your area, which is the other thing it mentions in the headline. So what's the new bit?

So making the driver switch off from the act of actually driving. Wait for the system to fail, and as the driver is busy looking elsewhere, or his feet aren't on the pedals ........ BANG !!!!!!
 
If it's faster ie more powerful than my current car? I really will consider another S3 saloon

Thought you were done with Audi? Change your mind? If the next Saloon does look like those images I wouldn’t blame you, it looks great to me.
 
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It's just a shame the next S3 will be £40k+ out of the box before a single option will have been ticked.
In standard trim the Saloon will if Audi increase the price by around £1500, but based on the current £2k price differential between the 2 body styles the Sportback definitely wont be.
Factoring in annual price rises by the time the Saloon is a year old, then it will probably cost at least £500 to tax unless the rules have been changed again.
 
So making the driver switch off from the act of actually driving. Wait for the system to fail, and as the driver is busy looking elsewhere, or his feet aren't on the pedals ........ BANG !!!!!!

Load of old fearmongering rubbish. I pay full attention to the road thank you very much, and know what the limits of the system are. It's a convencience driver aid, nothing more.
 
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Load of old fearmongering rubbish. I pay full attention to the road thank you very much, and know what the limits of the system are. It's a convencience driver aid, nothing more.

And everyone will be the same as you will they? People crash now due to not pay attention to the road or their surrounding. Once they think the car will sort it all out for them, their already limited attention span will slip further. Simple facts.

The less the driver has to do, the less they'll concentrate.

For me, the craziest one is `Lane assist`. If you are the inept that you can't keep your car within your lane, then you really shouldn't have a licence.
 
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Totally, back in the day before all these baby sitting systems folks would drive about completely aware of their surroundings. As soon as folks work out that along with seatbelts and airbags etc they can crash and have a good chance of survival the roads will be total carnage, it’s a slippery slope, these systems should be banned! In fact, all assistance systems, like indicator cancellation, parking sensors or automatic lights should be removed so drivers have to concentrate on all the things, drivers never fell asleep at the wheel, ran into the backs of things or had a lapse in concentration in the good old days because there was so much to do...
 
I see what you’re saying but I think getting rid of parking sensors is a bit much, that isn’t helping anything in any way.
 
I see what you’re saying but I think getting rid of parking sensors is a bit much, that isn’t helping anything in any way.

Yeah, Parking sensors should stay. Just get rid of the self parking B****ks
 
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Load of old fearmongering rubbish. I pay full attention to the road thank you very much, and know what the limits of the system are. It's a convencience driver aid, nothing more.

Just like following the Sat Nav. You always know exactly where you are, the route you are taking, the road numbers to take, the places to head for en route and not taking a road that ends in a farm track.

Many people wouldn't even have a clue where the back and front of their car ends these days without parking sensors.
 
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And everyone will be the same as you will they? People crash now due to not pay attention to the road or their surrounding. Once they think the car will sort it all out for them, their already limited attention span will slip further. Simple facts.

The less the driver has to do, the less they'll concentrate.

For me, the craziest one is `Lane assist`. If you are the inept that you can't keep your car within your lane, then you really shouldn't have a licence.

You might think you're incapable of using assist systems properly - feel free not to spec them. Don't spread nonsense about those that do. There will always be idiots on the road.

You sound like an old man shouting at clouds.
 
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When articles like this one below point out the benifits of the tech that is currently being discussed on this thread, then i can hardly see a valid point to an argument against the systems. However, we are NOT talking about the systems themselves, we are talking about peoples behaviour. Perhaps people should realise this very important point!!

https://www.driving.co.uk/news/life-saver-volvo-xc90-safest-car-road/


From the article:

“The clear message is that safety is a mixture of active and passive systems. You need the passive systems to protect people in the even of a crash, while active systems help prevent them in the first place.”

Volvo has often led the development of passive safety systems, including the three-point seat belt, and is now using technology to help avoid accidents, such as fitting automatic emergency braking across all its new cars as standard. Hakan Samuelsson, President and CEO of the Swedish car maker, has set an objective of ensuring that from 2020, nobody is killed or seriously injured in a new Volvo.
 
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You might think you're incapable of using assist systems properly - feel free not to spec them. Don't spread nonsense about those that do. There will always be idiots on the road.

You sound like an old man shouting at clouds.

Awesome. Did Mummy write that for you?
 
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Automatic braking works, full stop, none of us are completely perfect drivers and when the systems save you, and your car, as they have done with me, then you'll be glad to have them.

If you don't agree with them fair enough but research and experience has proved them to be valuable even, at the very least, the systems protect you from the idiots...
 
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Automatic braking works, full stop, none of us are completely perfect drivers and when the systems save you, and your car, as they have done with me, then you'll be glad to have them.

If you don't agree with them fair enough but research and experience has proved them to be valuable even, at the very least, the systems protect you from the idiots...

Yes, certain ones do make life easier, while not disengaging the brain from the act of driving. Auto handbrake works well. Auto wipers that change the speed depending on the rain fall rate. Rather than constantly having to change the speed manually on the stalk.

It's the new kind of assist system I don't agree with. Designed to take the skill of driving away from the driver. Car's that can park themselves.

Surely if you can't parallel park, then you shouldn't have passed your test?

Lane assist? Again, if you can't concentrate enough to keep your car in lane, then you shouldn't really be driving.

Brake assist. Had this on my MK7 Golf GTI. Horrible system, as it thought you were going to crash (when I wasn't) and it's slam the brakes on while going round a round-about.

Adaptive cruise control. I can see it can be useful, (Had it on my Golf) but on a motorway you can engage it from say Edinburgh, all the way to London, and never have to touch either the brake or accelerator pedal. Surely that makes the driver switch off. More so if it also has lane assist?

Brain switches off, system fails (which they randomly do) with the drivers mind is elsewhere, and his feet not on the pedals, then there is a good change of a crash.

I think it's the younger generation who welcome these systems more, as they'd rather the car drove itself with as little input from them as possible.
 
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Yeah you're right, I can't, after nearly 47 years of driving, do any of this so better take my licence away. When you realise these are merely aids to driving and are a car and life saver, as I have experienced, then come back in here....
 
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Yes, certain ones do make life easier, while not disengaging the brain from the act of driving. Auto handbrake works well. Auto wipers that change the speed depending on the rain fall rate. Rather than constantly having to change the speed manually on the stalk.

It's the new kind of assist system I don't agree with. Designed to take the skill of driving away from the driver. Car's that can park themselves.

Surely if you can't parallel park, then you shouldn't have passed your test?

Lane assist? Again, if you can't concentrate enough to keep your car in lane, then you shouldn't really be driving.

Brake assist. Had this on my MK7 Golf GTI. Horrible system, as it thought you were going to crash (when I wasn't) and it's slam the brakes on while going round a round-about.

Adaptive cruise control. I can see it can be useful, (Had it on my Golf) but on a motorway you can engage it from say Edinburgh, all the way to London, and never have to touch either the brake or accelerator pedal. Surely that makes the driver switch off. More so if it also has lane assist?

Brain switches off, system fails (which they randomly do) with the drivers mind is elsewhere, and his feet not on the pedals, then there is a good change of a crash.

I think it's the younger generation who welcome these systems more, as they'd rather the car drove itself with as little input from them as possible.

All of these things are just systems to help prevent human error, for example lane assist, it shouldn't be relied upon but it's better to have it in the background as a safety precaution, same goes for auto emergency breaking and so on. I understand some of the arguments against a few of these systems but at the same time these advancements make our roads a safer place.
 
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Yeah you're right, I can't, after nearly 47 years of driving, do any of this so better take my licence away. When you realise these are merely aids to driving and are a car and life saver, as I have experienced, then come back in here....

If you're saying you can't keep a car within a lane without assistance? Then yes, hand in your licence.
 
Yes, certain ones do make life easier, while not disengaging the brain from the act of driving.
It's the new kind of assist system I don't agree with. Designed to take the skill of driving away from the driver.
Brain switches off, system fails (which they randomly do) then there is a good change of a crash.
Whilst not being a big fan of tech, modern cars don't handle and stick to the road solely down to chassis, suspension and tyre technology. It's the tech of the stabilisation system that enables our cars to stay on the road whilst accelerating around corners. Shift the power to that wheel, bit of braking on another.
You could argue this also takes most of the skill out of driving and 'flatters' most peoples abilities to say the least.
 
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