Nearly at 7000 miles and both fronts are still looking very good.
No sign of dramatic wear on the inside edges yet.
No sign of dramatic wear on the inside edges yet.
Nearly at 7000 miles and both fronts are still looking very good.
No sign of dramatic wear on the inside edges yet.
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I’ve just done some checks today as go on a Euro trip in a few weeks.
Both inside edges foooked too.
Exactly the same as above:
13k Miles
Saloon July 18 delivery
Mag ride
Good level of tread across the rest of the tyre. Drivers side worse than passenger side, but both need changing.
I think 13k miles is kind of ok but it just winds me up when there’s a good lump of rubber on the rest of the tyre
Nearly at 7000 miles and both fronts are still looking very good.
No sign of dramatic wear on the inside edges yet.
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You and I seem to have bucked the trend.
Same here at 14k. New tyres ordered and put on but not Pirelli.
A few have broken the trend, it’s so strange because there just isn’t any pattern... that’s why I’ve got a spreadsheet, all variants and possible specifications suffer regardless but probably about a 1/3 of them don’t have the issue.
Plus the thousands of USA cars.
Strange :/ None of us have an answer to that one...
Uk roads
That’s the obvious one, but surely tyres should be designed to withstand our rubbish roads?
Not like every tyre suffers with this.
To be honest I’m starting to grow really tired of this now, unless Pirelli do a bit of a wonder deal when I buy my next set the Michelin’s are looking all the more attractive even if the sidewalls are straight as a die
I’m toying with the idea of some OZ Superturismo’s and that would mean 8.5J all around, so 255/30 all around would stop any rolling circumference discrepancies.
That’s the obvious one, but surely tyres should be designed to withstand our rubbish roads?
Not like every tyre suffers with this.
To be honest I’m starting to grow really tired of this now, unless Pirelli do a bit of a wonder deal when I buy my next set the Michelin’s are looking all the more attractive even if the sidewalls are straight as a die
I’m toying with the idea of some OZ Superturismo’s and that would mean 8.5J all around, so 255/30 all around would stop any rolling circumference discrepancies.
235 a better option
Look just right too
Just checked mine . 7000 miles approx , Saloon , staggered set up , RO2 ‘s on the front , car delivered in UK
Nov 17 . Even wear , at least from an eyeball . Good tread left across the width . Mixture of driving , quite a few calming measures on my way out of town .
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I like you , luv that sidewall design on RO 2 . That may not be the overriding point given issues a number of people have suffered , but shame to lose them in my opinion .
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Probably would be and much cheaper to buy the tyres for, but OZ don’t seem to produce the Superturismo’s in 8J hence why I couldn’t stay staggered.
Nice discs! Are they Tom Wrigley discs? With DS Performance or DS2500 pads?
you dont need to be a design expert to say thats a tyre design or manufacturing issue. pretty disgusting that Audi has washed their hands of it
you dont need to be a design expert to say thats a tyre design or manufacturing issue. pretty disgusting that Audi has washed their hands of it
It’s totally “normal” for an RS car and I “should be happy to get 5000 miles out of tyres on an RS3”.
Totally agree, certainly is an issue and probably a safety concern. The ‘no issue’ statement from Audi is expected, they don’t want any involvement where they may have to replace tyres on the affected vehicles with new tyres.
I have said before my first set of tyres were perfect when I recently changed them due to normal wear and tear.
There are also many other owners who do not have the issue.
Would be interesting to compare two cars with same mileage and see if settings are the same or wildly different.
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It’s absolutely a safety concern, a good few have had blowouts now.. it’s scary!
Audi will never care, not until there is a lawsuit after a death. In fact I don’t think they will care then, but they won’t be able to ignore it.
We have compared geometry settings, all identical.
Yes it is a safety concern, with comparison geometry settings the same then it points to a definite issue with the tyre or the rubber compound used at that time.
Wondering if Pirelli use different companies to supply the rubber?
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Hmm no I think it is all consistent, Pirelli have actually chopped up tyres from different batches (the way it was worded I assume brand new tyres) and all have been produced to within their standards and the design specification. Pirelli do have different factories, but supposedly these ones are made in Germany.
I contacted the DVSA to see if they would be willing to pursue, they said it isn’t a safety concern as tyres are something that the owner can see in ‘daily checks’, yes but that’s an excuse I’d expect from Audi. It’s what is reasonably practical to do so and what the public are actually likely to do, use a bit of common sense why don’t they.
Really sums it up with Audi. I have also asked my dealer (sales and service) if they were aware of the issue and as usual ‘we are not aware and have not been advised via Germany of the issue.
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Audi UK actually told me that they will not admit this is an issue until they issue a recall, until then there is no issue It takes an issue to be raised and investigated appropriately to proceed towards a recall.
If you tell me what dealer this is, I can tell you if I had a direct response from them. I sent emails to 117 Audi Centre’s and had an acknowledgement from about 15 of them, no more.
Wasting your time on this in my opinion.
They’ll (Audi) never admit there’s an issue.
If they did there would be RS3 owners world wide jumping on the ‘gimme free replacement tyres bandwagon’
If Pirelli admit something then Pirelli would have to cough up, again probably not something they will admit too.
Why is it only Pirelli Tyres that do this ?
Not heard of any other manufacturers tyre displaying this issue.
If you keep sticking with Pirelli because ‘it looks good’ your mad........
The problem is I think it is possible with the stretched nature of the tyre design, I exit a very tight very uphill junction and the front driver side is almost totally in the air, I believe under these conditions when the wheel spins up I'm on the sidewall, I also think there has to be a corellation between the internal insulation and the point of failure which might add to over heating of the tyre at that piontTo me this looks like a manufacturing problem - the tread seems to be coming away from the carcass. There is no way that the wear on the very extreme of the shoulder in your picture - and others on here - can have been caused by spirited driving or even out of whack camber. Can you imagine the angle the wheel would need to be at to cause that kind of wear? Surely such an angle is not possible?
Wasting your time on this in my opinion.
They’ll (Audi) never admit there’s an issue.
If they did there would be RS3 owners world wide jumping on the ‘gimme free replacement tyres bandwagon’
If Pirelli admit something then Pirelli would have to cough up, again probably not something they will admit too.
Why is it only Pirelli Tyres that do this ?
Not heard of any other manufacturers tyre displaying this issue.
If you keep sticking with Pirelli because ‘it looks good’ your mad........
Email sent to Pirelli tonight:
Good Evening.
I am emailing in relation to several worrying issues I have recently experienced regarding the front two Pirelli PZero tyres I have on my 2018 Audi RS3 Sportback.
I have covered approximately 12,000 miles on the vehicle and during this time I have consistently maintained upkeep of my tyres and ensured they adhered to the correct pressures at all times to ensure longevity.
You can imagine my surprise then, whenever recently I had a ‘blowout’ on the front right tyre of my vehicle whilst travelling home from work. After a recovery truck had been tasked and my car subsequently delivered home on the rear of this. I decided to examine the extent of the damage. What I then saw was a heavy amount of wear on the inside of the tyre in what would not normally be a contact patch. This was to the extent where I could place my hand inside the tyre such was the level of damage caused. This was a grave concern given the potential safety issues.
However, I then checked the same inner area of the tyre on my left hand side tyre. Only to find a similar problem whereby there was an excessive amount of wear on the inside, and the outside still had a good amount of tread depth which I would consistently check.
I have attached pictures of both tyres for your attention.
I find this very concerning given the excellent reputation Pirelli have and in particular the PZero tyres, that my tyres have become a huge safety hazard after such a short period of time. Having conducted a quick search on the internet I have found several examples of this happening on the ‘facelift’ RS3, and I am aware there is currently an investigation being undertaken at your HQ into why this is happening.
Please can you advise as to what, if any, are my options at this stage? Is this a fault in the design of the tyre as I find this abnormal that an identical occurrence seems to be happening to owners of this particular vehicle. I have always held Pirelli in the highest regard and do not wish this to have a negative impact on my fears for my safety whilst driving my vehicle.
Please find attached photos for your attention,
N.B, the first 3 pictures are the left hand side (passenger) tyre. The last 2 photos are the side where the blowout occurred.
Many Thanks and I look forward to your response.
Hi I am new to the forum and looked on here as Audi will not take any responsibility for this tyre problem. My tyres look exactly the same as yours on a 2018 RS3 with 12k miles. The inner edge on both fronts has the same groove which led to a burst and wreaked a wheel.
I will definitely send over to Pirelli with the link you mentioned and thanks for all your efforts looking into this ! View attachment 183079 View attachment 183080
The problem is I think it is possible with the stretched nature of the tyre design, I exit a very tight very uphill junction and the front driver side is almost totally in the air, I believe under these conditions when the wheel spins up I'm on the sidewall, I also think there has to be a corellation between the internal insulation and the point of failure which might add to over heating of the tyre at that piont
To me this looks like a manufacturing problem - the tread seems to be coming away from the carcass. There is no way that the wear on the very extreme of the shoulder in your picture - and others on here - can have been caused by spirited driving or even out of whack camber. Can you imagine the angle the wheel would need to be at to cause that kind of wear? Surely such an angle is not possible?
The problem is I think it is possible with the stretched nature of the tyre design, I exit a very tight very uphill junction and the front driver side is almost totally in the air, I believe under these conditions when the wheel spins up I'm on the sidewall, I also think there has to be a corellation between the internal insulation and the point of failure which might add to over heating of the tyre at that piont
@AudiNutta not an owner (yet) but I've got to admire your tenacity at keeping going with this, especially after all the knock backs and disappointments you've experienced with it from Audi. I know you have a vested interest from your own point of view but it's good to see you extending this for the benefit of others as well as yourself.
Hats off to you sir!