Yh the stats show it’s slower from 0-60 than the old one . I don’t know About Diesels I’ve Raced 335d and 435D x drive in my S4 and left them for dead both on a roll and starting start. Look at YouTube videos To see the acceleration difference the S4 B9 is 4-5 secs quicker than a 335D x drive 0-200 kph.
Lol 335Ds I agree are still good cars. I just don’t see why Audi are doing a Diesel S car when bmw Have the 335d and 340i which caters to peoples different choices. Lots of ppl bought an S car specifically for it being a petrol.
Guess you never know... but one thing may sway people towards BMW m340i or C43 is the lack of sound. You only have to go on YouTube or Instagram to see noisy S cars is appealing to a lot of people .
The New M340i is very tempting but I’m probably gonna buy a Used 2017/18 Rs3 as my next car. Love the 5 cylinder sound .
I agree it’s a weird One I think my S4 sounds better at Idle but not sure once their both rolling . From videos I think the Rs4 sounds better once it’s rolling. But I’ve always preferred bmw Inline 6s Over the Audi V6 petrol sound. Just something about it.
Yes I agree on that I’ve only Seen 1 B9 Rs4 on the road so they are quite rare. Gonna be interesting to see the New V6 Tdi and how it compares to BMW Diesels. Have a lot of friends who won’t touch an Audi Diesel but love the 335d engine . I have to admit it sounds pretty good for a Diesel engine.
Yup agreed, point very much missed and given VAG's track record with diesel emissions who'd want a oil burner anyway. As some have also stated a diesel engine will be totally unsuited for their driving...
So that means that the 3.0 TFSI did pass WLTP? And thus the decision to use a 3.0 TDI in the S4/S5 is not technical but strategic?
"new 2.9 hybrid petrol engine" - are you referring to the not-new Audi 3.0 V6 single turbo in S4/S5 or the also not-new Porsche 2.9 V6 twin turbo in the RS4/RS5? The Audi engine is currently undergoing hybridisation, but not the Porsche motor, as yet.
That was in reference to an A6, not "S" model. The S6 & S7 Rest Of World get the RS4/RS5 engine. The SQ5 type TDI is slated for S4/S5.
This is a guess: I don’t profess to know different. However, I suspect it’s at least as much to do with Audi knowing that if they took the petrol route, 354bhp would no longer be quite enough: they’d have to closely match the C43 and m340i outputs to sell an updated petrol S4/5. BUT in so doing they simply weren’t able to make it WLTP compliant. An extra 30-40bhp doesn’t sound much but 10% extra may have ended up being a stretch too far, in the same way that the A4 1.4 petrol engine was canned in favour of a similar output, detuned 2.0 petrol. As said elsewhere, that may have left them with a short to medium term choice of switching to diesel, or simply not having an S4/5 at all. And the halo effect / extra sales won out, with the sales pitch focusing on extra torque and better consumption (an argument that will clearly fall flat with some).
Euro 6 was introduced in 2014-15 for all cars, under the wltp and rde tests the engines are still Euro 6. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_emission_standards I think we should, with respect, keep to what facts we know and not place in unknowns that Audi have been unable to get their petrol engines through the new tests. Which is currently wltp and rde for the EU...
