Facelift BIL11 85 Audi RS3 Build
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@AudiNutta thought id update you as it seems your just as eager as me. Milltek is running behind schedule AGAIN......... Every product they have released for this car has been late!
Now saying they are not looking to dispatch products to dealers until early/mid April. I go back offshore 11th April for 3 weeks so not looking like ill have it fitted till I returnNot sure if anyone else has one on order and will have it fitted before me?
Thanks for the update mate.
I am really looking forward to hearing it. Because you are decat I will be basing it mainly on your comments, because obviously any sound clips would blow a catback out of the water with the downpipe.
Fingers crossed for more volume! I’m happy with the tone now..
I won’t be acting on it immediately, I’m going to see how this replacement exhaust lasts and if my tips start flaking in a few months I will go down the Milltek route, can’t be having new backboxes every few months.
Tbh, I’m kind of tempted by chrome. The black have grown on me now I have them, but I always loved chrome. I find the black ones get abused because they are overlooked when I clean the car and get built up.
But I don’t want my car looking like it has the stock exhaust haha.
Just ordered myself a dragy box and managed to get it for £137.50 with a discount code I got. So will be very curious to get a actual 1/4 time of my car using all the correct measures and find out my 0-60 times.
Also want to get times before I fit my exhaust and new wheels and see what the comparison is. My new wheels are 15.5kg lighter but im more curious to what the Milltek system will do due to thinking the standard exhaust system is restricting my car in some way.
Also want to get times before I fit my exhaust and new wheels and see what the comparison is. My new wheels are 15.5kg lighter but im more curious to what the Milltek system will do due to thinking the standard exhaust system is restricting my car in some way.
Will look lovely on your Ara Blue
Do you know the wheel weights for the standard 19’s Billy?
15.5kg weight saving, 3.9kg per wheel I presume? What size are you going for? 19’s again or are you going to try squeeze 20’s in?
Will be good to get a benchmark for your car on the Dragy box although you do find Road is normally slightly quicker than dragstrip. Probably because Crail surface is a bag of shi*e that the owners are too stingy to resurface. You’re doing the right thing tho, benchmark before with timing and then benchmark straight after the mods on the same stretch of private runway with the same conditions and weight to note the differences. Far better than any dyno.
15.5kg weight saving, 3.9kg per wheel I presume? What size are you going for? 19’s again or are you going to try squeeze 20’s in?
Will be good to get a benchmark for your car on the Dragy box although you do find Road is normally slightly quicker than dragstrip. Probably because Crail surface is a bag of shi*e that the owners are too stingy to resurface. You’re doing the right thing tho, benchmark before with timing and then benchmark straight after the mods on the same stretch of private runway with the same conditions and weight to note the differences. Far better than any dyno.
Just going by what I read on a forum, the 8j was 14kg and 8.5j was 14.5kg.
I was going to go for 20s but then would have had to buy 4 new tires and after just buying my exhaust I would have had to save up for a bit longer so as ever I was not patient enough to wait.
Stock our Audi 19" rims 8J ET49 for 235 tire has 13.4 Kg so looks new ones will be heavier
I’m intrigued by this! Seems to be that he guys the resonators and guts/‘straight pipes’ as I’ve been told the backbox, but the backbox remains in situ.
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Stock 19" wheel with 235 tyre weighed in at 23.5kg - chucked one on the scales when I swapped mine.
If you want a good light 19" wheel the Revo RV019 are 10kg a corner. With tyres (vs stock) you would save around 3.5kg's of unsprung weight.
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If you want a good light 19" wheel the Revo RV019 are 10kg a corner. With tyres (vs stock) you would save around 3.5kg's of unsprung weight.
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Well safe to say the wheels don’t fit!
19x8.5 ET 42 with 5mm spacers (so basically ET37) does not fit 2018 models. Phoned rimstyle where I got alloys from and they have no idea how. They have fitted this exact set up on a 2017 model sportback so have no idea what’s changed on 18 model.
They are sending me 10mm spacers instead of the 5mm so basically ET will be ET32.
Surely that will look daft. Extra poke of 21mm.
What’s everyone else thoughts on this?
19x8.5 ET 42 with 5mm spacers (so basically ET37) does not fit 2018 models. Phoned rimstyle where I got alloys from and they have no idea how. They have fitted this exact set up on a 2017 model sportback so have no idea what’s changed on 18 model.
They are sending me 10mm spacers instead of the 5mm so basically ET will be ET32.
Surely that will look daft. Extra poke of 21mm.
What’s everyone else thoughts on this?
Sh*te not good and those calipers are going to pis* you off now too. Probably going to need a complete respray, suspect a touch up will just look gash in sunlight on a nice clean car
If you're needing them repainted, might be an opportunity to go for something different though, Ara blue Calipers with an RS logo.
Same on both calipers Billy?
I take it you thought there was enough clearance when you initially fitted them, did you not do a free rotation check with them fully torqued up?
Also not sure what they are going to look like at ET32 either, going to stick out quite a bit? Will you need longer bolts too or get away with the ones you have?
Sh*tter.
If you're needing them repainted, might be an opportunity to go for something different though, Ara blue Calipers with an RS logo.Same on both calipers Billy?
I take it you thought there was enough clearance when you initially fitted them, did you not do a free rotation check with them fully torqued up?
Also not sure what they are going to look like at ET32 either, going to stick out quite a bit? Will you need longer bolts too or get away with the ones you have?
Sh*tter.
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Ahh s***! That’s not good mate... how the 10mm spacers solve the problem and still look the part too
What’s your plan for the calipers? a touch up for now and see how it goes? Are you going to do anything with the back of the alloys too?
What’s your plan for the calipers? a touch up for now and see how it goes? Are you going to do anything with the back of the alloys too?
I believe these are the correct figures for the staggered stock wheels.
Front is 19x8.5 255/30/19 ET46
Rear is 19x8 235/35/19 ET42
Your 8.5 is an ET42 minus 5mm spacer = ET37.
Front is 19x8.5 255/30/19 ET46
Rear is 19x8 235/35/19 ET42
Your 8.5 is an ET42 minus 5mm spacer = ET37.
Sh*te not good and those calipers are going to pis* you off now too. Probably going to need a complete respray, suspect a touch up will just look gash in sunlight on a nice clean car
Same on both calipers Billy?
I take it you thought there was enough clearance when you initially fitted them, did you not do a free rotation check with them fully torqued up?
Also not sure what they are going to look like at ET32 either, going to stick out quite a bit? Will you need longer bolts too or get away with the ones you have?
Sh*tter.
I did not fit them. It was farmers auto care. They were a bit iffy about fitting them but because I was assured by rimstyle they fit I assured them that they fit and it only got reversed about 4 feet off the ramp.
Rimstyle has accepted part responsibility and on there behalf are changing out the 2 front wheels that are damaged, sending me 10mm spacers and new bolts FOC.
I never got charged by the garage today for changing tires so basically I’m only out of pocket with the damage to callipers. I am going to try touch up with paint and see how it looks.
Got my info from this thread here Billy...
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/au...ck-wheels-spacer-testing-photo-heavy-2930246/
Have a look at the side view +8mm spacer pictures
Sizes do relate to the saloon though, obviously slightly different to the hatch sizing
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/au...ck-wheels-spacer-testing-photo-heavy-2930246/
Have a look at the side view +8mm spacer pictures
Sizes do relate to the saloon though, obviously slightly different to the hatch sizing
Yes, I think your problem with 10mm spacers is going to be the tyres themselves (If you are keeping the stock Pzeros?) as they do have a huge rim protector. +8mm spacer on the standard wheels from that pic thread above. Sticking out of the arch a bit there in the RH image. LH Image no spacer.
Fancy the garage fitting them without first checking, even a ‘loose’ fitting would highlight any caliper clearance issues.
Let alone bolting them on and moving the car Jesus.
Let alone bolting them on and moving the car Jesus.
Yes, I think your problem with 10mm spacers is going to be the tyres themselves (If you are keeping the stock Pzeros?) as they do have a huge rim protector. +8mm spacer on the standard wheels from that pic thread above. Sticking out of the arch a bit there in the RH image. LH Image no spacer.
One of the fronts is p zero one is Michelin.
Hmm, yes see what you mean. Would have been interesting to see a pic of them with their 16mm poke. 21mm plus rim protector is really going to stick out.
Really not much clearance in there with the big calliper even in stock configuration.
Really not much clearance in there with the big calliper even in stock configuration.
This is the Michelin tire with no rim protection-
The is the P Zero with the rim protector.
And my ET with the 10mm would give me in total 21mm poke
The is the P Zero with the rim protector.
And my ET with the 10mm would give me in total 21mm poke
I know mate I wish I had took the photos when they were on car. I never even got a picture of them on too see how good they looked on the car. I was too busy on phone trying to sort it out.
Quick 10 minute test on your drive would be to jack it up, remove the stock wheel with rim protector, fit the spacers to replicate the 20mm poke and take a side on photo again with the stock wheel/rim protector. Okay, not truly representative given the different wheels but would give you an idea how much it’s going to stick out and would only take you 10 mins. Would then let you know whether it’s a goer or not. No point in them sending you two new wheels if you’re going to hate the look of the wide poke.
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Ooooft! Nightmare.
Hope you get this sorted quickly.
I've got the Ispiri FFR1 ET37 for front and ET42 for rears... I have been *assured* they fit by Ispiri directly but I'll be making ****** sure now when I'm at the tyre fitters. Did you use their spigot rings?
Hope you get this sorted quickly.
I've got the Ispiri FFR1 ET37 for front and ET42 for rears... I have been *assured* they fit by Ispiri directly but I'll be making ****** sure now when I'm at the tyre fitters. Did you use their spigot rings?
Ooooft! Nightmare.
Hope you get this sorted quickly.
I've got the Ispiri FFR1 ET37 for front and ET42 for rears... I have been *assured* they fit by Ispiri directly but I'll be making ****** sure now when I'm at the tyre fitters. Did you use their spigot rings?
ispiri assured me they fitted too. But they did have me confirm what set of wheels it was so it must matter depending on design. Yes I used there spigot rings included in there "Free NON-Fitment Kit"
Ooooft! Nightmare.
Hope you get this sorted quickly.
I've got the Ispiri FFR1 ET37 for front and ET42 for rears... I have been *assured* they fit by Ispiri directly but I'll be making ****** sure now when I'm at the tyre fitters. Did you use their spigot rings?
That’s what Ispiri told me on the FFR1 though.
When I looked at LK and put the details in they said 42 ET which prompted me to ring Ispiri in Eire to see what was what.
The FFR1D must be slightly more curved spokes at the rear.
At some point tonight or tomorrow ill do what Leo suggested. Jack it up, wheel off, 2 5mm spacers in to replicate the 10mm spacer and bolt on the new wheel. It wont have a tire fitted but at least it will show me the poke.
Then only 2 solutions I will have is return the wheels or source either 7mm or 8mm spacers from somewhere else if I have enough clearance. But even at that a total poke of 18mm with the 7mm spacers will still be too much!
Then only 2 solutions I will have is return the wheels or source either 7mm or 8mm spacers from somewhere else if I have enough clearance. But even at that a total poke of 18mm with the 7mm spacers will still be too much!
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I think one of the other RS3OC members (James) tried the Ispiri ISR8 and they didn't fit... He did end up with the FFR1 and confirmed they did fit - he'd bought ET42 all round but then used 5mm spacers at the front to mirror the ET37 setup above and clear the calipers by 3mm... I'm hoping to get mine fitted tomorrow so I'll let you know how I get on. It may give you another option if the poke on the FFR1D is too much to live with.
As T-800 has said above, it may well be that the FFR1D spokes are more curved on that design that the straight spokes of the FFR1.
As T-800 has said above, it may well be that the FFR1D spokes are more curved on that design that the straight spokes of the FFR1.
I have FFR1s on a PFL at ET37 with Michelin MP4S in 255. I am lowered on H &R's. The tyres were so close to the arch i actually had to remove the screw on the inside of the arch as occasionally under hard compression it rubbed. It's ok now that has been removed. I think if you go any lower on the offset it will rub really badly Might be ok if you're not lowered.
Might be ok if you're not lowered.
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So bit of a picture overload but here is the wheel fitted with 2 5mm spacers to replicate the 10mm spacers. I think it looks worse in the air but once it’s set on the ground it will set in a bit more. I think I’ll get away with it with the Michelin tyre on that has no rim protection but think the p zeros might be a bit to much.
What use think? Think I’ll get away with it?
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So bit of a picture overload but here is the wheel fitted with 2 5mm spacers to replicate the 10mm spacers. I think it looks worse in the air but once it’s set on the ground it will set in a bit more. I think I’ll get away with it with the Michelin tyre on that has no rim protection but think the p zeros might be a bit to much.
What use think? Think I’ll get away with it?
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