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View attachment 134167 View attachment 134168 View attachment 134169 For those who might be interested, I have just completed the family holiday, Worcester to Lake Garda (via Strasbourg and Ypres) covering 2180 miles through Belgium, Luxembourg (90p per litre diesel on the services!) through Switzerland and over the Alps at the Gotthard pass.
4 people, full boot and roof box, and as you can see returned a DIS MPG of 49.6, and having used 203 litres of fuel (inc running around sightseeing) equates to 48.8 true mpg.
Most of motorway driving was at 80mph on cruise control, and if you like tunnels, Switzerland has then by the bucket full.
Not bad me thinks!
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Having contemplated doing this myself I'd be interested in how long you took to get down to Lake Garda and then get back (and how tiring it was).
 
Thanks DTS

Really enjoyed the trip, but we all have decided we would fly next time. Mainly because of the loss of days in LG. We broke the trip at Strasbourg for 2 nights, it took us approx 7 1/2 hours from the tunnel including a few stops. Went through Belgium, and Luxembourg mainly as no tolls,cheap fuel in Luxembourg and only 30 odd mile longer. If you download the Michelin app it details the routes and toll costs, very useful.
The trip to LG from Strasbourg was another 7 hours, and this included the trip over the Alps at Gotthard, and stopping for the views.
There is a little museum at the top (didn't visit) but stopped at Cafe bit further down the road, the photo above was taken there.
The trip through Switzerland is amazing, stunning scenery and lots of tunnels , note that at the border you need a special sticker (vignette) at the border which costs €40. The trip from the pass to LG is about another 90 minutes, and another £15 ish in tolls, the drive around Milan was busy, and the drivers like to tailgate. This is a problem as with no rear view mirror (full boot), you are using the passenger mirror to judge the distance and speed, whilst watching out for them to try and cut across you to the fast lane.
Sat Nav is fab, and learn to listen what she says. Also nice to see all the border country info popping up and the speed limits etc.
That said she ( called Sally lol) did let us down on the home trip trying to jump the queue to Gotthard tunnel on way home, but that was because whatever talks to it, didn't tell her the junction was closed and resulted in slight detour back down to where we started lol
My legs started to really ache the second day, but I have an auto and spent most of the time using the cruise to speed up and slow down, but apart from that really glad I (we) did it.
North we drove to an hour north of Strasbourg, so the trip to Ipres the next day was shorter.
Need any more info let me know.
 
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Many thanks Phil.

We've flown to Verona for Lake Garda a few times recently (and we now hire a car from the airport). Given how many Europeans drive down (e.g. the number of cars from Denmark who make the trip) gave us the idea of possibly making it a road trip. But as you say there is no way around the number of days it takes and lengthening the holiday.

Flight is only 90 minutes to Verona and its 90 minutes to the Lake (unless you are unlucky with the autostrada).
 
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Do you mind me asking how much the flights were and car hire? Married to a teacher which means I have to go school holidays
I was amazed at the amount of Dutch, who speaking to a friend who know lives there, are quite happy to do 12 plus hour shift in a day!
 
Do you mind me asking how much the flights were and car hire? Married to a teacher which means I have to go school holidays
I was amazed at the amount of Dutch, who speaking to a friend who know lives there, are quite happy to do 12 plus hour shift in a day!
No problem, I'll send you a PM
 
We did Lake Garda in 2011 by flying to Verona and hiring a car too. Rather than book a hotel near the lake, we stayed on the outskirts of Verona and drove to the lake each day. We did the drive in about 30 minutes each time, so we must have been lucky. We noticed a preponderance of Germans rather than any other nationality among tourists. It's an easy drive south for them.
 
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We did Lake Garda in 2011 by flying to Verona and hiring a car too. Rather than book a hotel near the lake, we stayed on the outskirts of Verona and drove to the lake each day. We did the drive in about 30 minutes each time, so we must have been lucky.

Should have said we were driving to the North West side of the lake (Limone) coming in from the top and then past Riva (about 60 miles), so probably about the furthest place on the lake from the airport. As you exit Riva and head south you go through some of the open sided tunnels used for the opening of Quantum of Solace. Also the first view of the lake as you come in to Torbole is breathtaking.

This year it took 2 1/2 hours as we got stuck on the autostrada mainly due to congestion (we won't do a July Saturday again). year before on a Sunday we did same journey in 75 minutes.
 
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