Gutted.. Car Banned :'-(

I was the same. I passed my HGV Class 1 at 18 and had a £40k car a few months later when I was in a job. The amount of stick I took having been accused of having it paid for me, being a mobility car etc and it got me down! Luckily my insurance is fairly cheap as I'm with a HGV specialist insurer that recognises up for all the driver training we have. I'm 23 now but still look very young for my age.
 
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Not suggesting going in there screaming and shouting but a little bit of escalation and heat always focusses the mind :)

Words like unacceptable and disappointed are always good for making people sweat a bit I've found...
 
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Ah man, this sucks! I hope it all gets sorted as soon as possible. I think somebody's mentioned this already, but even when the car is repaired to it's 'new' condition you'll probably lose faith and trust in it anyway. I live in Cardiff and I noticed the Cardiff Audi sales department were great, but the health check the car had last week took over 2 hours before coming back as all fine. The garage didn't even look busy...! Anyway, I digress. Yeah, I hope it gets sorted for you. It's always nice seeing any new Audi around Cardiff as there are a lot of trash cars around.
 
Oh mate! Sorry to hear about your troubles...
I think considering the s*** started to happen in Audi's care they should do a lot more for you in those circumstances.
Pretty stellar at 19 to run a car like that (I don't doubt you earned it) and as one said Audi should recognize you might be a very valuable customer for years to come.
Talk to them. In my view just because they f***** up your wheel they should go the extra mile to make you happy.
Sad state of affair :-(
Hope you get a good outcome on this.
And yeah I'd consider rejecting the car too. It's an option not to ignore...
 
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I had more or less the same problems last year when My s3 went into Audi to have a new downpipe fitted because Audi messed up a year before when the turbo failed by leaving the old turbo shaft sitting on top of the cat Which smashed its way through and ended up rolling around in back box, when it came to a courtesy car they said would a Renault Megane 1.6 be okay obviously I said no give me a call back when you have got an Audi or something similar to give me, next day they rang and said would an Audi A3 be okay which I was happy with, this was all because of my age (19) at the time.


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I've read through this post and it's slightly irritated me a bit.. I'm sorry that your S3 has to have its steering tack replaced, at such a young age of car it shouldn't happen.

However, to have a brand new Astra 1.6 diesel 4 hrs later is a very good result. The Astra is by all accounts is meant to be a very good car and on a par with a standard 1.6 A3.

Sadly, most of the time, these companies don't care that you have a top spec expensive car.. It really isn't like for like replacement.

I would see it lucky that you have the car they have given you rather than something really basic and bottom of the range like a 1.0 A1 with no kit
 
Ah man, this sucks! I hope it all gets sorted as soon as possible. I think somebody's mentioned this already, but even when the car is repaired to it's 'new' condition you'll probably lose faith and trust in it anyway. I live in Cardiff and I noticed the Cardiff Audi sales department were great, but the health check the car had last week took over 2 hours before coming back as all fine. The garage didn't even look busy...! Anyway, I digress. Yeah, I hope it gets sorted for you. It's always nice seeing any new Audi around Cardiff as there are a lot of trash cars around.

I've been through a few salespersons and had some difficulty getting taken seriously. Richard Joll goes above and beyond, you will not find any better or more of a genuine guy.
 
I've read through this post and it's slightly irritated me a bit.. I'm sorry that your S3 has to have its steering tack replaced, at such a young age of car it shouldn't happen.

However, to have a brand new Astra 1.6 diesel 4 hrs later is a very good result. The Astra is by all accounts is meant to be a very good car and on a par with a standard 1.6 A3.

Sadly, most of the time, these companies don't care that you have a top spec expensive car.. It really isn't like for like replacement.

I would see it lucky that you have the car they have given you rather than something really basic and bottom of the range like a 1.0 A1 with no kit

I agree, the Astra was good at 2pm on a Sunday afternoon.

But I think you've missed the point here. The S3 is likely to be out of action for at least several weeks. So I pay I'm excess of £500 a month to drive a Vauxhall Astra? Not acceptable. As an emergency it was good, but it's overal, a pretty rubbish car and a 2 hour drive left me in agony haha. My Dad was numb when he got out after 45 minutes.

The point was, I'm paying for an S3, got told my car could be gone for months and that they would not put me in an Audi.
 
So, I have an update.

Another very stressful day, which went nowhere until 5pm. Bridgend Audi refused to give me a car at Audi's expense. Audi UK said outright they would not be putting me ack in an Audi it was tough. This I could not understand, I was left shocked that they could say no after my 3 month old car is rendered unusable for several weeks at least.

So, Cardiff Audi sales came through again as usual and said at their own cost would supply me with an A4 out of good will for the period of repair, as long as I insured it and then I could claim the insurance back from of Audi.

But then the aftersales area manager with all his power worked miracles. They have spoken to the factory in Germany, who are going to try and speed up the supply of the new steering rack. They have spoken to the head of Audi UK customer service who was equally as shocked as Cardiff to find out I am driving an Astra and that is "not the service the brand provides". So, not understanding why his less superior staff had declined me he has authorised a car. I had a phone call at 6, to give Cardiff Audi 24 hours and there will be a car waiting there for me tomorrow fully insured and supplied by Audi UK. RESULT!! Finally!! I'm amazed that the staff in the call centre declined me a car, when the head of Audi UK was shocked that it had taken this long to get me in one.

Cardiff Audi have been absolutely incredible once again and I will be sure to thank all involved with wine and chocolates once all is resolved. Richard Joll from sales and Gabe Masterson the new car sales manager have pulled out all the stops and got the big guns drawn in, we got there in the end. Hopefully tonight won't be as much of a sleepless night. One less problem to worry about. I just need to try and forget about the S3 for now until I get the call to say the part is in :(

Now all that remains is to see how Audi UK are going to compensate me for the loss of the car. It depends on what they supply me tomorrow, if it's an S3 I won't take it any further. Hopefully it is something half decent, I've driven no end of A3's so an A4 would be a nice compliment, but I will soon find out. I might just request an all expenses paid trip to visit the factory ;) Something tells me, 3 months of the finance paid is more likely haha. I will be anxious to drive it, I need to try and forget how much it will have been pulled apart but I can use that to try and gain the compensation because it might darken my outlook on the car, that would be difficult though I will say. Fallen in love with the car, amazing piece of kit, except for the steering racks which are made of chocolate.. lmao.
 
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That's a good outcome so far mate, sounds like they've done all they can for you.

The car will be warrantied so I probably wouldn't worry too much about the fact it's been pulled apart so to speak.
 
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That's a good outcome so far mate, sounds like they've done all they can for you.

The car will be warrantied so I probably wouldn't worry too much about the fact it's been pulled apart so to speak.

Yes it has turned around rather quickly, just hopefully now the part will arrive on time and the S3 will be back in a few weeks.. really miss it, it's easy to forget how nice these things are and how much you appreciate them. The Astra is a tool, it's a workhorse for someone who isn't bothered what they look like or what they drive. The S3 is special, it's an occasion to drive it and makes you smile.

I suppose all should be fine, not as if it will be the first steering rack they have changed. It's just the realignment of the sub frame etc. Audi seem to have two levels of technician at Bridgend.. Bridgend Audi is split on two sides of the road, one has 3 ramps and seems to be all of the fully fledged technicians.
The other are plainly dressed technicians that do the dirty work, alignment, tyre swaps etc.. hopefully mine will get the right treatment. Bridgend is too small to have an RS specialist, so hopefully the technician will be given the time to do it properly. A very long test drive will happen before I sign any acceptance.
 
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Glad it;s progressing for you buddy. At least you'll get a decent motor to run around in.
 
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So, I have an update.

Another very stressful day, which went nowhere until 5pm. Bridgend Audi refused to give me a car at Audi's expense. Audi UK said outright they would not be putting me ack in an Audi it was tough. This I could not understand, I was left shocked that they could say no after my 3 month old car is rendered unusable for several weeks at least.

So, Cardiff Audi sales came through again as usual and said at their own cost would supply me with an A4 out of good will for the period of repair, as long as I insured it and then I could claim the insurance back from of Audi.

But then the aftersales area manager with all his power worked miracles. They have spoken to the factory in Germany, who are going to try and speed up the supply of the new steering rack. They have spoken to the head of Audi UK customer service who was equally as shocked as Cardiff to find out I am driving an Astra and that is "not the service the brand provides". So, not understanding why his less superior staff had declined me he has authorised a car. I had a phone call at 6, to give Cardiff Audi 24 hours and there will be a car waiting there for me tomorrow fully insured and supplied by Audi UK. RESULT!! Finally!! I'm amazed that the staff in the call centre declined me a car, when the head of Audi UK was shocked that it had taken this long to get me in one.

Cardiff Audi have been absolutely incredible once again and I will be sure to thank all involved with wine and chocolates once all is resolved. Richard Joll from sales and Gabe Masterson the new car sales manager have pulled out all the stops and got the big guns drawn in, we got there in the end. Hopefully tonight won't be as much of a sleepless night. One less problem to worry about. I just need to try and forget about the S3 for now until I get the call to say the part is in :(

Now all that remains is to see how Audi UK are going to compensate me for the loss of the car. It depends on what they supply me tomorrow, if it's an S3 I won't take it any further. Hopefully it is something half decent, I've driven no end of A3's so an A4 would be a nice compliment, but I will soon find out. I might just request an all expenses paid trip to visit the factory ;) Something tells me, 3 months of the finance paid is more likely haha. I will be anxious to drive it, I need to try and forget how much it will have been pulled apart but I can use that to try and gain the compensation because it might darken my outlook on the car, that would be difficult though I will say. Fallen in love with the car, amazing piece of kit, except for the steering racks which are made of chocolate.. lmao.
Matthew, this is great news to read. I'm glad Audi uk are doing right by you. It's what we should expect from the premium brand. You have loved the brand from such an early age and I know you will continue to do so. Look forward to seeing what car they give you and if I was in your shoes I would ask for them to make the payments on your car till it's fixed and also ask for either an exclusive tour of the factory or an invite to a special showcase event to drive the full range of cars with full hospitality as their special guest. If you don't ask you don't get so get asking asap, lol. :) x x
 
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Hello AudiNutta,

I feel for you with the issues you have with the new car. I also understand what it means to you to own and drive such a nice expensive car at your age. I had a new M3 at the age of 23. Accidents do happen, which is why we all have insurances for protection against unlucky misshaps.

However, worrying yourself over a car, is imo, a waste of time. These matters are out of your control, Audi UK/Audi GMBH are under obligation to get the right part and to repair the faulty steering rack, there are so many factors here again that are out of your control, so stop worrying about it and giving yourself sleepless nights.

The car is in good hands, with Audi and with Trained S Model or Senior Technicians (hopefully). You are being given a Courtesy car (an Audi) and rightly so. So sit back enjoy the fact that what you don't have you'll miss, getting back in the S3 will be like having a new car all over again. Win, Win.

I would seek some sort of compensation as most others have rightly said, the likelyhood of getting this though is another matter. It all depends on how long you've been out of the car and without the use of it, that will dictate what they will offer you.

Bridgend Audi are a good Dealer, I was there yesterday having my S3 Serviced for the 8k Mileage mark. Faultless and the price was £100 less than Cardiff Audi (no seriously it was). Between my Father and I, we've spent with Cardiff Audi (over the last 3 years) almost £200,000. I recently had a valuation on my car from them which was £3k under the top valuation for the car given its "immaculate" condition and mileage. Even Bridgend Ford came back with a figure in excess of £2.5k more. Needless to say, I will think twice about buying a car from them again.

We each have our own experiences with each Dealer, some good some bad, it all depends on so many variables, the outcome of the visit for you, for whatever reason has been a negative one.

I'm glad that you are getting it resolved and hope you are in the car soon.

G
 
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I will reply to each of you individually later.

I had a call from the Audi mobility scheme at 8:40, car sorted.. waiting at Audi now for a 10am changeover.

Guess what? It's an S3! Very happy with how Audi UK have pulled through, it is only what should have happened but I am so glad that Cardiff have made it happen.

I will report back tonight with some pictures no doubt, but I am now very happy :)
 
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Glad it's all been sorted for you! You've made me concerned about dealing with Cardiff Audi now though...! :(
 
Reading this thread, and a number of other similar ones, I have some observations.

1/ There is a pervasive trend voiced regularly on this board, that any mistake, ****-up, or dropped ball by Audi or their service centres should result in being immediately being showered by free parts, services, finance payments and the use of a R8. Personally I find this distasteful the extreme, and I don't advocate any such thing. I treat my relationship with a dealer as just that, a relationship. There is give and take, and there is compromise, and there is two way communication in which each side has the chance to understand the others point of view. If a dealer makes a mistake, then as long as they make good, I'm happy. This is not America, where some perceived slight should be rewarded by thousands of pounds with of free stuff. These "freebies" are not free. They all go on the bottom line somewhere, whether it goes on the cost of services, parts, labour or your next car. As Audi customers we all pay for them. A good relationship with a dealer is worth a great deal. I had a good experience with Slough Audi. They made a mistake on my order, and couldn't rectify it in a reasonable time, so after a discussion where each of our needs and expectations were made clear, they shipped a brand new S3 to me for me to drive whilst they ordered me another car. I had it for 5 1/2 months, all I had to do was fuel in it. That's a lot of give. In return, I did them a favour and let them register my car and kick off the finance plan 10 days before I picked the car up, so it would go on their September sales figures. After I'd taken delivery of the new car, that they had shipped to a G-Techniq place to be polished and coated, they paid off the bus lane ticket that I'd somehow picked up in their car some weeks before. Give, and take...

2/ the Vauxhall Astra is a steaming ****. Ive driven them extensively, and even in rangetopping form they scream from every irritating design feature and poorly implemented tech device all the reasons I opted to buy an Audi. However the Astra is fine a quick courtesy car. Audi has undoubtedly contracted with Europecar to provide quick and assured out of hours replacement cars to its customers, something it cannot do itself. Were the defective car away for a few days, I would have accepted such a car without issue. For the length of time this rack is likely to take though?, then yes, I would undoubtedly have communicated with the dealer my issues and reasonable expectation that I be given an equivalent car to the one that has failed. Age is however a factor. The costs of providing cars to youngsters is immense, since there's little else more likely to result in carnage than a young man in a fast car that's not his. Given that Audi's typical customer base is decidedly middle aged, the extra cover is probably not worth the cost. A cost that is ultimately paid for by us, the customers (see point 1). This doesn't mean they can't do it, it just means it needs a different process.

3/ the failure of mechanical parts is statistically far more likely to occur on new cars than cars that are one or two years old. This is the nature of the bathtub curve (google it), a statistical phenomenon so reliable that it can be used on any product from spanners to aircraft carriers. Don't be disheartened that something has gone wrong so quickly. Be happy that it happened while the car was in warranty. True 'Lemons' are few and far between these days, and they tend to fail due to electronics issues rather than mechanical.

4/ your experience of getting Audi to do the right thing is fairly typical. Like all large organisation the decion making process is a little to long and convoluted for the customer who rightly wants action, answers, and progress NOW. The phenomenon of insurers being inflexible, unfeeling, and unusable ******** is well documented. As far as they're concerned, your policy demands that they provide a portion of 'some car', and that's what you got. Insurers are almost unique in being one of the few people you don't have a 'relationship' with, unless of course you count abusive relationships with a demanding spouse who promises all 'in sickness & in health', but at the first sign of trouble handcuffs you to the bed while you are sleeping, kicks you in the balls, empties the bank account, sells the house and shacks up with your neighbour.

5/ a steering rack isn't a big component, it's a bolt on part secured with about 8 fixings. It's certainly not worth throwing all the toys out and demanding a rejection on the car. Save that for the true lemons, or the cars that have already spent more time in a workshop than on your driveway. This is a first fault, and a relatively minor one with a high certainty of no repeat work, so the notion of rejection has no merit, yet....
Don't worry about the car being irreparably compromised by a replacement rack. I'd be more worried about having to have a bumper painted, since it has significantly more scope for dis-satisfaction.
 
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On another note. Hope you remembered to say do not wash?

I'm not going to reply on my other thoughts.
 
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Just catching up on the thread, Matthew. Glad you have everything nearly back the way you want it.
 
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Good luck AudiNutta, and it could be a lot worse... ;)

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A whole lot of sensationalism in here.
It's what a warranty is for.
 
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Matthew, this is great news to read. I'm glad Audi uk are doing right by you. It's what we should expect from the premium brand. You have loved the brand from such an early age and I know you will continue to do so. Look forward to seeing what car they give you and if I was in your shoes I would ask for them to make the payments on your car till it's fixed and also ask for either an exclusive tour of the factory or an invite to a special showcase event to drive the full range of cars with full hospitality as their special guest. If you don't ask you don't get so get asking asap, lol. :) x x

Thanks Sandra :) I am now very happy too. Cardiff Audi have already told me I will be put forward for the next Audi Experience day at Silverstone, which is very exciting. One thing I might mention is the factory tour, I would love that.
 
Glad it's all been sorted for you! You've made me concerned about dealing with Cardiff Audi now though...! :(

I can tell you some stories about Cardiff Audi if you have an hour ;) Each will have their own opinion, I'd use Bridgend but by all means continue to use Cardiff as you touch wood will never have an issue. I will express this is for service only, sales have been fantastic.
 
Reading this thread, and a number of other similar ones, I have some observations.

1/ There is a pervasive trend voiced regularly on this board, that any mistake, ****-up, or dropped ball by Audi or their service centres should result in being immediately being showered by free parts, services, finance payments and the use of a R8. Personally I find this distasteful the extreme, and I don't advocate any such thing. I treat my relationship with a dealer as just that, a relationship. There is give and take, and there is compromise, and there is two way communication in which each side has the chance to understand the others point of view. If a dealer makes a mistake, then as long as they make good, I'm happy. This is not America, where some perceived slight should be rewarded by thousands of pounds with of free stuff. These "freebies" are not free. They all go on the bottom line somewhere, whether it goes on the cost of services, parts, labour or your next car. As Audi customers we all pay for them. A good relationship with a dealer is worth a great deal. I had a good experience with Slough Audi. They made a mistake on my order, and couldn't rectify it in a reasonable time, so after a discussion where each of our needs and expectations were made clear, they shipped a brand new S3 to me for me to drive whilst they ordered me another car. I had it for 5 1/2 months, all I had to do was fuel in it. That's a lot of give. In return, I did them a favour and let them register my car and kick off the finance plan 10 days before I picked the car up, so it would go on their September sales figures. After I'd taken delivery of the new car, that they had shipped to a G-Techniq place to be polished and coated, they paid off the bus lane ticket that I'd somehow picked up in their car some weeks before. Give, and take...

2/ the Vauxhall Astra is a steaming ****. Ive driven them extensively, and even in rangetopping form they scream from every irritating design feature and poorly implemented tech device all the reasons I opted to buy an Audi. However the Astra is fine a quick courtesy car. Audi has undoubtedly contracted with Europecar to provide quick and assured out of hours replacement cars to its customers, something it cannot do itself. Were the defective car away for a few days, I would have accepted such a car without issue. For the length of time this rack is likely to take though?, then yes, I would undoubtedly have communicated with the dealer my issues and reasonable expectation that I be given an equivalent car to the one that has failed. Age is however a factor. The costs of providing cars to youngsters is immense, since there's little else more likely to result in carnage than a young man in a fast car that's not his. Given that Audi's typical customer base is decidedly middle aged, the extra cover is probably not worth the cost. A cost that is ultimately paid for by us, the customers (see point 1). This doesn't mean they can't do it, it just means it needs a different process.

3/ the failure of mechanical parts is statistically far more likely to occur on new cars than cars that are one or two years old. This is the nature of the bathtub curve (google it), a statistical phenomenon so reliable that it can be used on any product from spanners to aircraft carriers. Don't be disheartened that something has gone wrong so quickly. Be happy that it happened while the car was in warranty. True 'Lemons' are few and far between these days, and they tend to fail due to electronics issues rather than mechanical.

4/ your experience of getting Audi to do the right thing is fairly typical. Like all large organisation the decion making process is a little to long and convoluted for the customer who rightly wants action, answers, and progress NOW. The phenomenon of insurers being inflexible, unfeeling, and unusable ******** is well documented. As far as they're concerned, your policy demands that they provide a portion of 'some car', and that's what you got. Insurers are almost unique in being one of the few people you don't have a 'relationship' with, unless of course you count abusive relationships with a demanding spouse who promises all 'in sickness & in health', but at the first sign of trouble handcuffs you to the bed while you are sleeping, kicks you in the balls, empties the bank account, sells the house and shacks up with your neighbour.

5/ a steering rack isn't a big component, it's a bolt on part secured with about 8 fixings. It's certainly not worth throwing all the toys out and demanding a rejection on the car. Save that for the true lemons, or the cars that have already spent more time in a workshop than on your driveway. This is a first fault, and a relatively minor one with a high certainty of no repeat work, so the notion of rejection has no merit, yet....
Don't worry about the car being irreparably compromised by a replacement rack. I'd be more worried about having to have a bumper painted, since it has significantly more scope for dis-satisfaction.

In response to your first point, having now been compensated with the use of an S3 for free for the term of the repair I will not be requesting any financial reimbursement. I am the first person to say people would be silly to attempt to sue Audi for the emissions issues, take it on the chin. We love the brand, if it wouldn't stop you buying another Audi which I am sure for most it wouldn't then suing them will only get the company in further trouble and we will all lose out then.

Point 2, I was VERY grateful for the Astra on Sunday afternoon and expressed relief after they accepted the insurance on it. I was happy to drive it this week, until I found out it would be several weeks before anything was likely to happen with my car, that changed things. Even if they told me my car would have been back next Friday, I would have taken the Astra on the chin for owning a great car.

Point 4, I understand where you are coming from totally. I would have accepted their normal procedure, had my repair not been expected to take several weeks or more.

Point 5, I will 100% give Audi the chance to get it right as I am sure they will. I have just expressed that I will have to try and forget what has been done, I am sure we would all like our cars untouched.
 
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On another note. Hope you remembered to say do not wash?

I'm not going to reply on my other thoughts.

Definitely. I have dash cam footage of the dealership using a brush to awash whole car. One dip in a bucket of water, used it to wash the wheels, tyres and full body of an S1.. I nearly cried.

I have put in a first every request for them, can I go and wash the car on a Sunday. If it will be sat there a couple of months it is going to get dirty sat around, it has little protection on the paint at the moment so to stop any build up I hope I can go keep it clean every couple of weeks. That is how anal I am, haha.
 
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SO, today was a rather interesting day.. to summarise.. I have been through two S3's!

I collected the car from Audi, to find a very bad accident damaged rear quarter. It was on the damage sheet, all okay so I took it away. The car was collected from Bridgend, so I popped into Cardiff who have been dealing with it to show them. When I told them it was damaged, they reluctantly came out to expect what they called "Matt accident damaged", knowing how picky I am. The sales manager, salesman and head of business had a shock upon seeing the car as much as I did.. haha. Here are some photos of the car:










So, it's had quite a bump considering it only had 1400 miles on the clock. I contacted the mobility team at Audi, who were surprised to find out it was damaged and extremely apologetic. Some investigation later, they discovered that the Europcar driver bumped it on the way to Bridgend Audi this morning!! He reported it to his head office, but Audi had yet to be informed and they found out off of me first. This needless to say didn't go down well and the hire centre is currently "under extreme heat" over it as it is Audi's car after all.

But, within an hour they sourced a new car for me an hour away. I opted to drive to get it for an excuse to get back out in an S3. It is a saloon, in Glacier White and a manual which is a new experience for me in a performance car. The car had 208 miles on the clock when I picked it up.. stunning car. I have no photos currently as it was dark when I got home. Audi have been absolutely outstanding in the turnaround once again, cannot fault the teams behind all of this and I am very happy with he service received.

I must say I am taken hugely by surprise with the manual, I worried I would regret taking one out on hire but it was an incredible drive.. I have fallen in love with it. Now I understand why people love them, I haven't felt a gear change like it or experienced anything as satisfying as it haha. You definitely feel the power more in a manual, with the power delivery not being constant... if that makes sense, getting a feel for the pull in each gear is great. I just hope after a few weeks I will be looking forward to the automatic, because right now all I want to do is go and drive the manual.

I will try and post some photos over the weekend around work, needless to say I am excited to drive in tomorrow.


Only negative experience of the day was how europcar handle the cars, it broke my heart to see it. I have contacted Audi and I will get a call back tomorrow regarding it. Despite having the black one for only 4/5 hours, it pained me to see the car treated in the way it was. 3 people clambered all over it, revving the nuts off of it. Two jumped in to move it, speeding across the forecourt and revving it to his colleagues.
The receptionist told me they never see cars like these and they were amazing, she thought it was a £100,000 car.. serious haha. Then they puled up in the 200 mile old saloon, stone cold and drove it in the same manner. We heard it before we saw it, unacceptable when they aren't their own cars. I know the cars will be treated like this, they are hire / loan cars, but it is painful to see.. I find it impossible to mistreat a car, even the Astra. The back one and been cleaned by the time they called an hour later, expecting to use it all weekend. Regardless of these not being my cars, they will always be warmed up before any spirited driving and the saloon will have a few hundred miles taken easy, there is no point in abusing it. Europcar didn't appreciate what they were dealing with I don't think. Anyway, rant over.. sorry for wasting 30 seconds of your life's, haha.
 
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Smashing car mate. Stick it out, you'll have your S3 back in no time. Don't down grade to a TDI, I driven one and they do not pack the same punch as the TFSI 2.0.
 
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So highly strung / intense for a youngster.

Maybe I'm getting old now, but I was far more relaxed in my late teens.
Life was for enjoying and learning, not getting stressed, especially not about a car.

Save stress for when you have real life responsibilities.
 
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So highly strung / intense for a youngster.

Maybe I'm getting old now, but I was far more relaxed in my late teens.
Life was for enjoying and learning, not getting stressed, especially not about a car.

Save stress for when you have real life responsibilities.

Mature youngster then ;) My car means to world to me, when it's in a situation like this.. I panick haha.

There always seems to be something to stress about with cars for me. My 63 plate Fiesta had an engine rattle, it was detailed and the window had to be replaced because the detailer slipped and cut into the rubber.

My A3 was badly painted when I collected it, Cardiff Audi cracked the front bumper replacing the grille and had to be painted twice.. both badly, Cardiff Audi spilled brake fluid on the wing, the A3 was involved in a motorway hit and run that I had to pay for.

The S3's wheel got kerbed, steering wheel alignment was out when aligned and then the rack went. It was sent for PPF, there was a fault with the film and when he got good film his cutter failed. There is a pattern emerging haha, it gets old fast.

I am starting to relax a little more now, when my Fiesta was in Ford for weeks for diagnosis and I had an MG3 to drive around in I was going loopy being new to driving and wanting it back.
 
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Mature youngster then ;) My car means to world to me, when it's in a situation like this.. I panick haha.

There always seems to be something to stress about with cars for me. My 63 plate Fiesta had an engine rattle, it was detailed and the window had to be replaced because the detailer slipped and cut into the rubber.

My A3 was badly painted when I collected it, Cardiff Audi cracked the front bumper replacing the grille and had to be painted twice.. both badly, Cardiff Audi spilled brake fluid on the wing, the A3 was involved in a motorway hit and run that I had to pay for.

The S3's wheel got kerbed, steering wheel alignment was out when aligned and then the rack went. It was sent for PPF, there was a fault with the film and when he got good film his cutter failed. There is a pattern emerging haha, it gets old fast.

I am starting to relax a little more now, when my Fiesta was in Ford for weeks for diagnosis and I had an MG3 to drive around in I was going loopy being new to driving and wanting it back.

Cars are not worth stressing over, ever.
They are expensive bits of metal that have warranty / insurance, nothing a few £££ can't fix.
You'll maybe mellow with age.

I was mellow at your age, not a care in the world, only started stressing when our daughter arrived.
 
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I'd be asking them to pay for a full detail for it. They've done what they should've done to begin with and give you a like for like courtesy car and now their goodwill gesture should be a full detail depending how long it sits.
 
Come on guys, this is going a bit too far. Like for like courtesy car....R8 for R8 methinks not and that would be the same for most of the S series cars, hire/rental car companies do not stock them. Dealers have them in limited, if any stock of S series for courtesy cars and some may not have any demo vehicles. Also lots of free goodies being demanded. Let the dealer and Audi, if required, look at the complete story, not just one side. Then see what they are going to do to accommodate you whilst a car is under repair for events that they have caused.
Demanding stuff is not the best method to resolve issues as it will only raise the ire of both parties.
 
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So highly strung / intense for a youngster.

Maybe I'm getting old now, but I was far more relaxed in my late teens.
Life was for enjoying and learning, not getting stressed, especially not about a car.

Save stress for when you have real life responsibilities.

An impressive trick if you can pull it off. There's no denying the absolute clarity and logic of that reasoning. Sadly though, the human mind rarely responds in kind, hence why some people become highly stressed and suffer severe, almost crippling anxiety for some unexpected and otherwise innocuous reasons, even when they are aware of logical reasons why their reaction makes no sense.

That said, in my late teens I was buying old cars for £20, smashing them through an MOT with nothing but hope and davids isopon P40 'hairy" filler (which still has a picture of an Austin Meastro on it to this day) getting it a pass, and then driving them til I got bored / they broke/ I ran out of talent... Carefree days indeed. If only I'd kept those cars, some of them are now worth a ****** fortune.

Had I spent the thick end of five years wages - before tax (normalised for inflation) on a new car that then broke, I'd probably have been a bit highly strung too... I'm told that the youngsters leaving school now will be the first generation in a century who will be worse off than their parents, and yet this forum seems to be full of people barely old enough to shave who can afford S3's...

I'd be asking them to pay for a full detail for it. They've done what they should've done to begin with and give you a like for like courtesy car and now their goodwill gesture should be a full detail depending how long it sits.

Would you though? Really?

Not withstanding the facts that
a) you can't dictate what a goodwill gesture might be, because it no longer a gesture, and there will certainly be a shortage of goodwill, and
b)I wouldn't trust a car dealer to wash my socks without leaving swirl marks in them, what are you really gaining?

This is what I was talking about above. The car broke, they will fix the car, free. They recovered the car to the workshop, free. They provided a car, free, they provided another car when the first car wasn't considered to be expensive enough, free. They will apologise, kiss ****, and genuinely be a bit embarrassed by the whole situation, so what good will come of demanding a posh car wash?

The sense of entitlement I was talking about before seems to go hand in hand with a belief that every customers money is equal. Not so. Suppliers, dealers and contractors of all types have 4 basic types of customer;

1/ is the customer they want to develop, they'll offer a good deal and excellent service now so that they are the first point of call when it comes to the big future sale(s). (Be nice to the young lad buying an A1, because he'll be back in a couple of years for an A3, then an S3, then a Q5, then an S6 etc...)
2/ is the customer they want to keep. A proven spender who is trouble free and worth keeping by way of additional discounts or incentives, because he's so easy to deal with.
3/ is the customer who's a pain, but he pays big so it's worth milking him for all you can get until he finally goes elsewhere. Laugh at his jokes, take his money, but if he leaves it's no skin off your nose.
4/ is the customer they wish they'd never met. They offer him zero discount, and even quote higher than normal because they know he always complains or demands extras that weren't part of the deal. He's a pain in the **** and the sooner he goes somewhere else the better.

You're better off being customer 1 or 2, than being customer 3 or 4.
 
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I'd be asking them to pay for a full detail for it. They've done what they should've done to begin with and give you a like for like courtesy car and now their goodwill gesture should be a full detail depending how long it sits.

The car had one free when it left the supplying dealer. It just had a second correction when it went for front end PPF. I'd be scared to have it detailed anymore.. will be no clear coat left :(
 
Would you though? Really?

Absolutely. I never mentioned them washing it or having it done. A place of choice at their expense as has been done on here before by Audi.

The car had one free when it left the supplying dealer. It just had a second correction when it went for front end PPF. I'd be scared to have it detailed anymore.. will be no clear coat left :(

I hadn't realised they had already supplied that. In that case it should be easy enough to wash and maintain then.
 
Absolutely. I never mentioned them washing it or having it done. A place of choice at their expense as has been done on here before by Audi.



I hadn't realised they had already supplied that. In that case it should be easy enough to wash and maintain then.

They didn't, Cardiff did because the cars are supplied ruined with swirls. It was done a second time by a proper company in the Midlands. But, he didn't have time to apply any wax and it was supposed to be going up again the next weekend for protection and now it hasn't haha. I normally use Fusso Coat wax, but the car has no protection after the paint correction that is why I'm conscious of it being difficult to clean.

It is covered in tar already, after a week driving and it won't come off haha. He will have to clay bar it again.
 

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