S3 caught doing 140mph in Wales

140mph could be classed as dangerous driving just based on speed. 90mph is illegal but if you are just stopped doing this speed in a straight line on a motorway, it wouldn't be dangerous driving. Looking where this guy did 140, it is madness......not even a straight road. I wonder how the law would have viewed this on somewhere like the M6 toll.
 
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if we start to sentence on potential that's a pretty slippery slope isn't it?
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We are already doing it with firearms and other offensive weapons such as knifes, the object is not the problem but the person who is in possession of it is. If you drive your car within the bounds of the law or choose to keep your collection of hunting knifes at home in a locked case then fine but use or dispay you knife or car in a dangerous manner in a public place then you are punished based on the threat and potential damage....nuff said
 
a quick google search for speeding at 146mph... I see the 12 weeks was suspended for 2 years!

''was sentenced to 12 weeks in prison, which was suspended for two years, along with 100 hours of unpaid work.''

No mention of ban either, but assume there would be an automatic one?
 
If your going to risk breaking the law then you're stupid and irresponsible to do it on a busy motorway, with lots of cameras, unmarked police and risk to others.

The guy didn't just break the law, which says 70 max on a motorway he disrespected it.
 
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He's not even on the motorway. This is the A449 near Newport, a c.12 mile 2 lane twisty dual carriageway leading from the M4 at J24, up to Raglan where it joins the A40.

There's a highly visible camera van parked up on the side of the road at least twice a week...
 
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He's not even on the motorway. This is the A449 near Newport, a c.12 mile 2 lane twisty dual carriageway leading from the M4 at J24, up to Raglan where it joins the A40.

There's a highly visible camera van parked up on the side of the road at least twice a week...
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Thanks for the clarification, even more of a muppet then....
 
On this May Bank holiday Monday 14 years ago, some plank on a bike crashed into the back of us doing well in excess of 100mph. We were doing 50 mph.

If anyone wants to know what all the impacts (emotional/financial etc) of high speed crashes are....and the impact it has on innocent people (if you are lucky enough not to be killed or seriously injured) feel free to ask.

Makes my ****ing blood boil.
 
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140mph on a UK road is dangerous but so is using a mobile phone, hand held or otherwise. In the same way as using excessive speed it reduces the 'thinking and reaction' time. The number of times I've followed another car and it's obvious by the way the driver is reacting and moving around in his lane that he is on the phone.
 
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david7m said:
Cant be first offense.
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It might if the magistrates deem it dangerous enough. Here's the sentencing guidelines;
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h5djr said:
140mph on a UK road is dangerous but so is using a mobile phone, hand held or otherwise. In the same way as using excessive speed it reduces the 'thinking and reaction' time. The number of times I've followed another car and it's obvious by the way the driver is reacting and moving around in his lane that he is on the phone.
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Good point. Although the severity of a high speed incident is much greater, the lack of driver education and proper enforcement means that the mobile phone related crash is more likely. "Carrying out other tasks while driving" is listed as an aggravating factor that would indicate higher culpability, and land you an even greater sentence.

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If anyone wants to know what all the impacts (emotional/financial etc) of high speed crashes are....and the impact it has on innocent people (if you are lucky enough not to be killed or seriously injured) feel free to ask.
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Perhaps, for the sake of people who think like this; you should enlighten us all.
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time and a place............this was neither.
the fact the driver missed the camera van kinda shows his observation skills may not be up to the standard required.

p.s. also experienced a mbike sliding down the road towards us at approx 90mph in my rear view mirror.....like a bomb going off and motorcyclist no more.
 
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GSB said:
Deservedly. I had one as a hire car a few weeks ago. Anyone that would voluntarily give over their own money for such an awful, dreary machine needs their bumps felt.
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My current boss is a big petrol head - has a Merc C63 and a 911 Turbo, we always talk about cars and how he took his 63 to a track and got 9MPG and me saying how mine is a 1.4 but I get 150 HP look at me and how good my A3 is...

My soon-to-be new boss on the other hand. I said "Yeah I want to change my A3 to something faster" and he says "oh really, A3s are good aren't they? I was looking at an A3 but got an Astra instead"

What. The. F.

Told him while I appreciate the opportunity, I don't want to work for you :p


On topic: what a nutter he was. Something about S3's clearly...:D

 
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My current boss is a big petrol head - has a Merc C63 and a 911 Turbo, we always talk about cars and how he took his 63 to a track and got 9MPG and me saying how mine is a 1.4 but I get 150 HP look at me and how good my A3 is...

My soon-to-be new boss on the other hand. I said "Yeah I want to change my A3 to something faster" and he says "oh really, A3s are good aren't they? I was looking at an A3 but got an Astra instead"

What. The. F.

Told him while I appreciate the opportunity, I don't want to work for you :p


On topic: what a nutter he was. Something about S3's clearly...:D

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That whole video was just wrong....Both drivers were bang out of order....Not good at all......:sadlike:
 
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If ever two people were in need of a lecture on all of the material contained in the last two pages of this thread, punctuated by a sustained bout of repeated punches to the face, it's these two bell-ends.
 
And shooting a video in portrait format only compounds the crime.
 
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A good point, but I get the feeling that people don't quite realise what sort of forces were dealing with. It's not just about going twice as fast;

At 20 mph, a 1.4 tonne Audi S3 has 55,950 Joules of Kinetic energy
At 70 mph, a 1.4 tonne Audi S3 has 685,800 Joules of Kinetic energy. (3.5 x the speed, 12.5 x the energy of 20 mph)
At 80 mph, a 1.4 tonne Audi S3 has 895,440 Joules of Kinetic energy (30% more energy than the legal limit of 70mph, and 16x more energy than at 20mph)
At 140 mph, a 1.4 tonne Audi S3 has 2,741,870 Joules of Kinetic energy (4x more than at the legal limit, 50x more than at 20mph)

So, 140mph. Double the limit. You've got to dissipate 3 times more energy through the brakes to just to get back down to 70mph, as it takes to get from 70mph to a full stop. You need four times longer to stop as you do at the legal limit, and you're carrying the energy equivalent of over a pound and a half of TNT.

Even if you're only doing 90mph, you're carrying 1.13 million Joules of kinetic energy. Over 60% more than you were at 70mph...
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55,950 x 50 = 2,797,500...... ( or when I went to school it did ) Not 2,741,870 as quoted, so you were either trying to use a solar powered calculator that had been perpetually stored in a dark cave, or your 55,950 times table is simply not up to scratch :screamcat::tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy:
 
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55,950 x 50 = 2,797,500...... ( or when I went to school it did ) Not 2,741,870 as quoted, so you were either trying to use a solar powered calculator that had been perpetually stored in a dark cave, or your 55,950 times table is simply not up to scratch :screamcat::tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy:
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Damn it, for want of merely illustrating a point my whole case has been trashed by your primary school maths and overuse of emoticons. Of course, as everyone knows, 2.7 MegaJoules merely causes light bruising of the no claims bonus and the need of a bit of T-cut & elbow grease. It's the 2.8 MegaJoule impact that will tear you limb from from limb & splash your internal organs all over the Tarmac.

So, what is your point? Are you saying 140mph on the public road is safe then? Or will that level of self congratulatory pedantry and Olympic levels of missing-the-point constitute your defence in court? If so, I can readily imagine the magistrate shutting down your smartarsed reply with a declaration of "Blah, blah, blah"...

Or, are you just being a feeble minded troll that's forgotten about your responsibility to others and that the use of our roads is a privilege and not a right?
 
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Damn it, for want of merely illustrating a point my whole case has been trashed by your primary school maths and overuse of emoticons. Of course, as everyone knows, 2.7 MegaJoules merely causes light bruising of the no claims bonus and the need of a bit of T-cut & elbow grease. It's the 2.8 MegaJoule impact that will tear you limb from from limb & splash your internal organs all over the Tarmac.

So, what is your point? Are you saying 140mph on the public road is safe then? Or will that level of self congratulatory pedantry and Olympic levels of missing-the-point constitute your defence in court? If so, I can readily imagine the magistrate shutting down your smartarsed reply with a declaration of "Blah, blah, blah"...

Or, are you just being a feeble minded troll that's forgotten about your responsibility to others and that the use of our roads is a privilege and not a right?
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James is probably just missing the point that even leaving the maths aside(because I'm sure he might remember that K.E. is proportional to velocity squared ) an impact at that sort of speed is unsurvivable.

Anyone who's had to hose the carnage off the roads,or try to save the victims of such stupidity would get it.
 
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GSB said:
Damn it, for want of merely illustrating a point my whole case has been trashed by your primary school maths and overuse of emoticons. Of course, as everyone knows, 2.7 MegaJoules merely causes light bruising of the no claims bonus and the need of a bit of T-cut & elbow grease. It's the 2.8 MegaJoule impact that will tear you limb from from limb & splash your internal organs all over the Tarmac.

So, what is your point? Are you saying 140mph on the public road is safe then? Or will that level of self congratulatory pedantry and Olympic levels of missing-the-point constitute your defence in court? If so, I can readily imagine the magistrate shutting down your smartarsed reply with a declaration of "Blah, blah, blah"...

Or, are you just being a feeble minded troll that's forgotten about your responsibility to others and that the use of our roads is a privilege and not a right?
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GSB said:
Damn it, for want of merely illustrating a point my whole case has been trashed by your primary school maths and overuse of emoticons. Of course, as everyone knows, 2.7 MegaJoules merely causes light bruising of the no claims bonus and the need of a bit of T-cut & elbow grease. It's the 2.8 MegaJoule impact that will tear you limb from from limb & splash your internal organs all over the Tarmac.

So, what is your point? Are you saying 140mph on the public road is safe then? Or will that level of self congratulatory pedantry and Olympic levels of missing-the-point constitute your defence in court? If so, I can readily imagine the magistrate shutting down your smartarsed reply with a declaration of "Blah, blah, blah"...

Or, are you just being a feeble minded troll that's forgotten about your responsibility to others and that the use of our roads is a privilege and not a right?
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no feeble minded trolling going on here just correcting you on a blatantly obvious mistake.
 
It's a "mistake" of no consequence to the topic being discussed. And it's only "obvious" if you actively seek to pull it apart for the purposes of trolling, or actually know your 55,950 times table, in which case you are a talented mathmatician.

I'll discount the latter because the talented mathmatician would have looked deeper into the issue under discussion, and seen that the energy level at 140mph is fractionally over 49x that at 20mph, and would have understood immediately that rounding up to 50x gives an even number that is easily and immediately digestible by all readers.
 
So you exaggerate it to make your post easy to digest?? Doesn't add up ha ha. Please don't take my posts personally, if I've caused you any offence I'm genuinely sorry..... Deep down your probably an interesting guy.
 
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The basic point of this thread is getting lost between both of you scoring points off each other regarding the maths.

The simple point is that the driver of the car is an imbecile,and needs to spend some time seeing the consequences of this sort of thing when it goes wrong.
 
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Wow! This thread went mental! Lol you guys like picking at each other.
145 in the S3 8V does feel very stable and planted. My wife has even done it...on the autobahn ofcourse...and it was late and quiet! This guy was doing it in traffic...basically a numpty who should definitely be punished.
As soon as we saw even a glimpse of another vehicle, we slowed down dramatically. This guy was just pure danger.
 
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I'm not sure who's the most daft, someone doing 146mph in a straight line or people pushing their S3s around bends on the public road to the extent that its handling shortcomings appear and then wishing they got an M135i so they could get its **** end out......

Just saying!
 
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grimey121uk said:
I'm not sure who's the most daft, someone doing 146mph in a straight line or people pushing their S3s around bends on the public road to the extent that its handling shortcomings appear and then wishing they got an M135i so they could get its **** end out......

Just saying!
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Yep, I've had that exact same thought plenty of times reading this and similar threads. You gotta be seriously battering an S3 to make it feel like it wants to 'bounce into the nearest ditch' and in doing so I can't help thinking your putting someone in danger...........................:whistle2:
 
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Yep, I've had that exact same thought plenty of times reading this and similar threads. You gotta be seriously battering an S3 to make it feel like it wants to 'bounce into the nearest ditch' and in doing so I can't help thinking your putting someone in danger...........................:whistle2:
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I drive hard. I drive very hard when I'm out of town and I have never felt like I've got mine out of shape or had it dangerously unstable. So yes, some of these posts criticising handling worry me...
 
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Yep..bad enough doing that type of speed on a straight stretch of road without another car in sight, but round that bend on a busy road....should have got more than 12 weeks...... .but pays testament to the grip and handling of the S3 ...135mph at the apex of the bend!!!!
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I bet he was twitching unless he's got mods there lol.
 
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The B8 was the first car I've had that passed that test diff just grpied to the apex
 
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Perhaps, for the sake of people who think like this; you should enlighten us all.
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Hmmm.....where to start.
2 bikes racing at well over 100mph. First ricocheted off the back of us and exploded 163m down the road. His mate ran over him with his girlfriend on the back and they came off too. None of them wearing leathers.
Air ambulance called and road sealed off while accident investigators did there stuff. We were there for 5 hours.

Found out the one who hit us was not insured as he had his license revoked suffering epilepsy after a previous crash.

No courtesy car as insurance wanted our car.....which was impounded for months.

Had to buy another car. Guess what......no NCB as outstanding claim.

Wife in counselling and too scared to drive. Unable to get to work due to post traumatic stress disorder. Feeling it was somehow her fault as she was driving.

I could go on. Cost us a fortune.
 
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Hmmm.....where to start.
2 bikes racing at well over 100mph. First ricocheted off the back of us and exploded 163m down the road. His mate ran over him with his girlfriend on the back and they came off too. None of them wearing leathers.
Air ambulance called and road sealed off while accident investigators did there stuff. We were there for 5 hours.

Found out the one who hit us was not insured as he had his license revoked suffering epilepsy after a previous crash.

No courtesy car as insurance wanted our car.....which was impounded for months.

Had to buy another car. Guess what......no NCB as outstanding claim.

Wife in counselling and too scared to drive. Unable to get to work due to post traumatic stress disorder. Feeling it was somehow her fault as she was driving.

I could go on. Cost us a fortune.
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Feel for you mate.What a horrible thing to go through..It,s always the innocent party that,s left picking up the pieces...
 
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Shame he didn't remove himself from the gene pool at the same time...
 
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Grade "A" Slagbag.
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I remember seeing the picture of that crash...Couldn't believe it tipped the lorry over...I believe in karma..He will get his....
 
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I remember seeing the picture of that crash...Couldn't believe it tipped the lorry over...I believe in karma..He will get his....
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I'm sure he's biting multiple pillows in Strangeways as we speak...
 
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"The car, which had been travelling at over 160mph, hit the lorry at such force that it overturned and slid on its side further up the motorway. The Audi continued to spin out of control for another 175 metres with the momentum ripping the engine from the car, resulting in it landing a further 50 metres down the road."

That means the engine landed about the length of two full size football pitches away from where the crash happened!
 
GSB said:
Deservedly. I had one as a hire car a few weeks ago. Anyone that would voluntarily give over their own money for such an awful, dreary machine needs their bumps felt.
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Agreed.all vauxhall cars are terrible. Had plenty as hire cars. Cannot understand why people buy them, better off with a ford for that kind of money
 
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Daveotto said:
@wab172uk ....think again, you don't get it...

You can't kill someone shoplifting so won't get 12 weeks and neither would mugging a pensioner, unless that resulted in a fatal heartache in which case it's at least manslaughter same goes for assault but that only happens rarely a "typical" sentence for the crimes you list is non custodial

However, driving in that manner only takes a minor error of judgement and its carnage and potentially mass murder not a few cuts and bruises so by any standards it was dangerous and the punishment was based on potential
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And you've never sped, driving an s3. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, just kidding

But daft doing that speed though. No chance of doing anywhere near that on the M4 at Reading and London corridor. Too many morons and too much traffic. When I was younger there wasn't anywhere near as much traffic and certainly drove quicker than I do now. Nowadays I mostly drive like a nun, lol
 
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