upgrades while doing head gasket

Yeh i guess you are all right
And prawns been saying the same for months

It was only as i pay labour and a lot of you diy so i was trying to save cash.

Also i preferred driving my car in lowest map on track as i could concentrate on what nick was saying lol
 
I threw it in the bin karl god knows where it is now.

My mechanics going to bypass some of the poor wireing areas and add an led which will light up if the fans are not on

Or something to that effect
 
superkarl said:
Lines aren't cheap, I'm currently having some made so il update with cost.
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£125 for coolant feed and drain, and oil drain.
Moral of the story, do it right first time.
 
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They from pirtek Karl ?

Their stuff is good but ****** expensive , we use a lot of high pressure lines for work and they are twice the price of a local hose specialist in Nottingham ( hose4u ) iirc

Sean
 
s33nyboy12 said:
They from pirtek Karl ?

Their stuff is good but ****** expensive , we use a lot of high pressure lines for work and they are twice the price of a local hose specialist in Nottingham ( hose4u ) iirc

Sean
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Tell me about it, they're the first that come to mind though and I was in a hurry, so it was easy. I had a small local place make my oil feed, that was more affordable.
 
daz-20vt said:
Ok lets try again.
I want a bit more performance from my car.
Im yet to have the head checked for cracks etc. I would like a nice solid 360bhp and i want to scrap my wmi.
Dobi need anything more than just rods?

I know a knew manifold downpipe and intake will be required but what about large port head
Valves and springs
My injectors are 550cc
Etc etc.
If my current build is good for 360 ish then great.
But ive no idea when all these things need upping
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antwan64og said:
IMHO Heat management might be preferable to ARP head bolts at this stage, currently the head gasket is the weak point.
If you bolt the head down tighter wheres the next weak point

Bigger radiator
Phenolic inlet spacer
Exhaust Manifold heat shield
Port the turbo to match to manifold
Oil cooler upgrade

Then there's always a Girdle/windage tray if you don't want a dry sump, lol
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I agree with antwan. If cooling is a big concern of yours it should be at the top of the list before extra power is considered.

But seeing as it looks like you will be rebuilding your top end, if it's going to be completely refreshed then you may well find some extra hp from doing that.

But for more power without changing your turbo, Integrated Engineering sell two versions of cams for our engines, with you current set up the V2 (300-500 hp) version would be suitable. That would give some extra power, cant say how much but this version is specific to the "lower" power figures.
 
Stuson said:
I agree with antwan. If cooling is a big concern of yours it should be at the top of the list before extra power is considered.

But seeing as it looks like you will be rebuilding your top end, if it's going to be completely refreshed then you may well find some extra hp from doing that.

But for more power without changing your turbo, Integrated Engineering sell two versions of cams for our engines, with you current set up the V2 (300-500 hp) version would be suitable. That would give some extra power, cant say how much but this version is specific to the "lower" power figures.
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With the cams I don't think they will do much on a hybrid. They bring the extra power at the top end where a hybrid runs out of legs. Pretty sure that's what Bill found when he tested his cams.
 
The thing is, that was with his cams, not anyone elses. These cams may be different profile?
(Not claiming I know much about cams, just that there are different variations available )
 
scotty_24 said:
The thing is, that was with his cams, not anyone elses. These cams may be different profile?
(Not claiming I know much about cams, just that there are different variations available )
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Fair call. No way to know without testing but if I had to put money on it I think you'd need a bigger turbo first.

I do have the exact cams you're talking about though so I'll see what they do on a gt30. :)
 
when an engine is limiting a turbo from reaching it's full potential, then cams will increase power.

When you're thrashing the ******** off a tiny turbo and it's giving all it can give, no cams are going to change that headline figure at all, only alter the delivery and shape of the curves.
 
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Stuson said:
I agree with antwan. If cooling is a big concern of yours it should be at the top of the list before extra power is considered.

But seeing as it looks like you will be rebuilding your top end, if it's going to be completely refreshed then you may well find some extra hp from doing that.

But for more power without changing your turbo, Integrated Engineering sell two versions of cams for our engines, with you current set up the V2 (300-500 hp) version would be suitable. That would give some extra power, cant say how much but this version is specific to the "lower" power figures.
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lumpy however and trip misfire recognition as a consequence... (fixable in mapping, but lumpy)
I prefer my spec cams for their stock idle and power gains on BT are decent

The fast road IEs in a customer AUM/GT30 help it get very good power also tho... high 500's
 
Jenno007 said:
With the cams I don't think they will do much on a hybrid. They bring the extra power at the top end where a hybrid runs out of legs. Pretty sure that's what Bill found when he tested his cams.
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cams on hybrid = waste of time
zero gains
 
All fair comments. I suggested the V2 version purely because they are purpose made for 300-500hp, 300-400 being something hybrids can manage. Thinking of, for example the TTE 390 for 1.8T's for attaining that power.

I know that the highest gains are up the top but surely they give better power delivery throughout being designed for the "lower" power figures, whereas the V1 version is for 500-850hp, defiantly BT territory.
 
I think the issue isnt power related but rev related

Where the cams inprove power is where the hybrid runs out of puff

So the cams may perform better but the turbo is on the way down power wise
 
Is the turbo hotside hogged out to match the pro4 manifold?

A big port head and a big port inlet manifold should net you a few ponies but its a lot of money and effort for the limited gains.

I spent like 8hours carefully gasket matching my inlet manifold and only netted 2 G/S more on my ko3, I was hoping for like 10+ :help:
 
I was thinking of porting the hybrid a bit.

Bbt told me not to bother but a few days after id fitted it everyone was talking about porting the k04

So is it worth it?
 
daz-20vt said:
I think the issue isnt power related but rev related

Where the cams inprove power is where the hybrid runs out of puff

So the cams may perform better but the turbo is on the way down power wise
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it is turbo related... out of flow.. no gains to be achieved
 
Stuson said:
All fair comments. I suggested the V2 version purely because they are purpose made for 300-500hp, 300-400 being something hybrids can manage. Thinking of, for example the TTE 390 for 1.8T's for attaining that power.

I know that the highest gains are up the top but surely they give better power delivery throughout being designed for the "lower" power figures, whereas the V1 version is for 500-850hp, defiantly BT territory.
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having actually run these on a few cars... tested them on dyno
hybrids are not going to benefit from the cams you mention..
flow limitations are the turbo/turbo hotsides themselves
Our own k04 hybrid benchmark test mule being the 372bhp/320lbft lupo.. AUM engine, just rodded. No gains from cams, which on bigger turbo gave 113bhp gains!
 
daz-20vt said:
I was thinking of porting the hybrid a bit.

Bbt told me not to bother but a few days after id fitted it everyone was talking about porting the k04

So is it worth it?
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What do you consider to be worth it?
Lol

It should lower EGT's a tad and may increase a few G/S
 
I want another 100bhp for free!!!!!

I guess seeing its a free job a may aswell
 
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