Enabling TPMS for A3 S3 8V *Experimental*

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Caveat - Work in Progress - *Experimental ONLY*

Proceed at your own risk.

But feel free to try this out on yours, and post your results in this thread!

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As there is not much info about how to code TPMS onto a A3 S3 8V, I spent about 3 hours yesterday sitting in the car with the laptop.

After some initial help from Ross-Tech support, they provided me with a Long Code to replace my long code in the ABS module, to see if this would activate TPMS.


Top line is the original Long Code from the factory
Bottom line is what Ross-Tech suggested I try

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This seemed to work, and briefly lit the "flat tyre with !" symbol in the instrument pack. So I assume TPMS is enabled in the ABS module. It also illuminated when you ignition on, and then extinguishes.


However - I still had to find our how to enable the functions (storing pressure etc.) in the MMI, and maybe code the DIS. So I had a poke around......




I ensured all the following adaptations were set to "active" or already "active" in the 5F module:

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And also Byte 4 Bit 0 in 17 Instruments was ticked

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This then gave the TMPS menu in the MMI


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Next steps:

1. Figuring out which Bytes and Bits tick box do you have to tick, to get TPMS enabled in the 03 ABS module? (instead of copying and pasting a long code)

2. Do u actually need to enable Byte 4 Bit 0 on the 17 Instruments module? I'm guessing there might be a message in the DIS when the TPMS alarms, but I don't know. - Anyone with factory fitted TPMS help here? Have you had a warning message in the DIS?

3. Haven't yet figured out which measuring blocks show that the module is learning values.

4. Haven't tried deflating a tyre and driving yet to test if the system actually works (still learning values) - anyone want to try this?

Progress !!
 
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I have TMPS, will try to see if byte 4 bit 0 is checked when I got time
 
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2. Do u actually need to enable Byte 4 Bit 0 on the 17 Instruments module? I'm guessing there might be a message in the DIS when the TPMS alarms, but I don't know. - Anyone with factory fitted TPMS help here? Have you had a warning message in the DIS?
Progress !!

I have factory fitted TPMS, and (ironically) on the way to its first service a few weeks ago it flagged an under inflated rear-right tyre. There is a loud audible beep, accompanied with the TMPS warning light in the cluster, and a message in the DIS telling you which tyre has the problem. So yes, it is indicated in the DIS.
 
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2. Do u actually need to enable Byte 4 Bit 0 on the 17 Instruments module? I'm guessing there might be a message in the DIS when the TPMS alarms, but I don't know. - Anyone with factory fitted TPMS help here? Have you had a warning message in the DIS?

Yes, when I've had it go off it has put a message in the DIS. Both times I've had a tyre go flat though, I've noticed it myself before the TPMS has (assume it measures small differences over time better than immediate pressure loss!). It didn't tell me which tyre, but just told me to check pressures. It went off after driving with the space saver on it both times I've used it, and one other time (when the pressures were running a bit low).

I'm not entirely sure whether I trust it or what it's doing yet, but it looks like you are making good progress enabling it!
 
I've also found that it doesn't detect gradual pressure loss (eg: through natural diffusion) of all 4 tyres !
This was on my 8P.
 
Hi Veeeight, nice write up,have you had any further luck with the last 3 steps you mentioned.

Rich
 
Bit busy with work at the mo, so haven't had a chance yet.
Pretty confident all will be possible soon!
 
Brilliant post, did the security code for ABS get worked out? Can you post details?

Many thanks
 
2. Do u actually need to enable Byte 4 Bit 0 on the 17 Instruments module? I'm guessing there might be a message in the DIS when the TPMS alarms, but I don't know. - Anyone with factory fitted TPMS help here? Have you had a warning message in the DIS?

I have factory TPMS and yes, Byte 4 bit 0 is ticked/enabled.

John.
 
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For info

The codes which Ross Tech changed relate to the following:

38 - 3 already ticked - 4,5 ticked

86 - 7 already ticked - 1,2 ticked

I just need the ABS security code to try on mine
 
Will try to check tonight but mine is not an S3 and is FWD so expect there to be other differences in the long code .....

Still want it?

John.

Yes please, Mine is FWD and not an S3 so this may help to work out which codes do what

David
 
Once you get this code from John, and verified the changes,

you should be able to just paste in your new long code - without needing the ABS security code.

Fingers crossed.
 
For info

The codes which Ross Tech changed relate to the following:

38 - 3 already ticked - 4,5 ticked

86 - 7 already ticked - 1,2 ticked

I just need the ABS security code to try on mine

In Long Coding Helper:

This refers to
Byte 27 Bit 3,4,5 ticked
Byte 28 Bit 1,2,7 ticked
 
At the moment I do not have enough examples of long codes from the ABS module to be able to confidently say what you must change in order to enable TPMS.

If you want to help this cause further, please either send me your ABS long code via PM, or copy and paste it here in this thread. Don't need your VIN or any other info, just say whether you have or don't have factory TPMS installed.

Thanks
 
My long code was very similar to yours veeeight so changing 08 to 38 and 06 to 86 worked for me.

With John's code I can see that on byte 27: 3, 4, 5, 6 are ticked and on Byte 28: 0, 2, 7 are ticked

Does this help to unravel the mystery?
 
The next stage is to emulate a TPMS issue so the light will come on and the information message displayed
 
My long code was very similar to yours veeeight so changing 08 to 38 and 06 to 86 worked for me.

With John's code I can see that on byte 27: 3, 4, 5, 6 are ticked and on Byte 28: 0, 2, 7 are ticked

Does this help to unravel the mystery?
I'm a bit concerned that John's code has 78 and 85. I would like to know why ours is 3, and John's is 7 !!
 
I'm a bit concerned that John's code has 78 and 85. I would like to know why ours is 3, and John's is 7 !!

Without knowing what each bit means for Byte 27 and 28 it is difficult to say. Worth having some more codes and possibly the Exact model/options chosen included with the code as there will be differences because of the options chosen on the vehicle.
 
I have 18" wheels, S-Tronic and Hold Assist too. Those are the only other things I can think of that would affect this, unless it's something to do with where the pressures are stored?
 
It could be Hold Assist, but until I have more ABS Long Codes to compare, I'm not confident to say definitively!
 
Good to know TMPS in S3 8V in progress ..........well done ....
 
Mini Update: Testing Successful

Tonight, I let the front tyre down by 5psi, and drove home from work.
Within 5 miles, I had a message in the DIS, and the TPMS symbol illuminatetd in the instrument pack:

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So the system works :)


As only 1 person has sent me their long coding from their ABS module (thank you), I'm unable to help any further without additional data.
 
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Just asked my friend to get me VCDS cable soon, but actually where the abs long code is???
I am not familiar on VCDS......
 
here you go mate :

10F162A234260A74037E070441C72908462C50C0E08294F5F86150F88508
 
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Good news, once we have collected about 10ish long codes with a brief spec and whether TPMS is factory fitted we can give a rundown of exact vcds settings for 8v tpms
 
Yes I have tmps. apart from that almost everything is in my sign
 
"32F193A254202A710178070841C8694CC92A5480E08296F6004100880608" [S38V , without TPMS]

Thank
Franky
 
Hi, I tried to encode as it is written above, but for me does not work is the MMI, TMPS shine the light on for DIS.
Below moej oryginalen ABS codes IMG 0020
New codes:
Byte 27 - 38
Byte 28 - 85 (Bit- 0 not Hold Bit- 1 instal Hold )
and 17 instruments - Byte 4 bit 0
 
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I have never seen a car with TPMS and Basic SD Nav, so I don't know if the reset menu is in the MMI or not. Or how you reset the TPMS.

My photos of the 5F module and menus are for Tech Pack.