yeahhh answer the question Tim
Tim you are so against cone filter lol.
Information on forums are from the users obviously, however it doesn't mean its right. You could read a 100 threads saying how they have or haven't got an increase in air flow from a cone, exhaust, de cat etc. But you do not know how accurately the tests have been carried out or the knowledge of the testers.
I will always calculate things first to get an idea of what should happen in theory then try things myself to see what I get, not just take what someone else got. Reading endless threads which can be utter rubbish will not expand your knowledge. You just get an idea of other peoples experiences, which yes can be good.
I actually have some calculations of how air filters and ram air filters can increase air flow and it has taken everything into account. I will have a look through my uni work later, chilling out now before work as I have just handed in my final project report lol.
Will not disagree with you with some of what you have said there Tim but just because ess three didnt see an increase in power or torque on a dyno does not mean its a pointless mod. If you analysis the graph or vagcom you may see that you maybe making peak power higher up in the rpm or for longer through the range, or your boost may start come in earlier. May only be a couple of rpm but the driveabilty of the car has improved.
I got and increase of about 6-9 bhp when I done mine. Ye 17 bhp is rather high for a induction kit but then its goes down to what I said about the tester, not having a dig at you Apline, however the guys in uni had 18 bhp (I think) increase on a Lupo from a K n N which I actually said rubbish but they proved it to me so I say fair enough.
Lol the chav stuff was a joke really. It if funny though how some people go on because they have an AUDI which must be the best. The S3 is a hot hatch which it is not the best at doing in its class, however its a pretty good all rounder.
Lol the R26 is an immense car. Not wow fast but it handles so good and you can cover ground in it so easy, thats the surprise. The normal 225 models aint very good in my opinion
no diss taken animal. i was as suprised as you at what vag com threw up. Remembering i have effectivly powerflowed my TB too which would add to the 17bhp increase VAG-COM showed. If im honest, i dont know where it come from, i done another run last night and i got the same results give or take a . or 2!! Im happy im @ 167ish on a standard car dude, just using the old tricks my dad used to do back in the 19 what 80s ect to all those carbbed beasts!! I know the cars of today are miles apart but simple engineering is simple engineering in my book. if you make a hole bigger more airs gonna get in, if you polish the sh!t out of that intake (i.e powerflowing) the air will run smoother/faster giving you more stable airflow etc etc. Using that "old skool" or "dated" method.... which ever you want to call it obviously still seems to work in the days of adaptive ECUs blah blah blah.
Once again peeps, im taking no offence to any negative comments, actually makes a change for people to see that something "unorthadox/against the grain" has been done, and its chucking up good numbers! oh yeh, and the fact i made it all by my chavvy self is a bonus! (that was a sarcastic joke!!)
i think its all down to testing and the reason i always go back to ess threes testing is because he did it all on the same day utilising the same conditions (or as near as damn it)....nobody else has emulated a test like this since, vagcom is great but it isnt an independednt testing device as it utilises the cars existing sensors..... good points and bad points
fact is testing on an RR before and after spreading your runs to acheive an average, your not gonna be too far out.....
i dont think you can compare the S3 to the Megane, totally different era, that said i still whole heartedly think you will not find a better all rounder in its class, even to this day including the 8P against its peers
Tim
i think we all respect each other enough here not to take offence
i personally dont buy the bhp figure on vagcom, its built from a set of calculations rather than physical fact
I've got a Pipercross panel, seems to work well and gives a nice intake noise.