It doesn't look like any of the licenses are activated, it just says demo license until 08 2024. If it's not sorted by Monday i'll get on to them. Made sure i had full LTE signal too/changed password etc.
A3/S3 delivery lead time?
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Depends on your luck, I guess. I got almost 10% off an S3 Vorsprung with metallic paint and red brakes when I ordered in January 22.
I had my eye on an "in stock" Turbo Blue S3 early this week at Jardine Tamworth. They were not budging on the list price. I'm not a previous customer, but these "exclusive offers" are rarely that exclusive when there are targets to meet. I asked them to get close to the DTD price and they wouldn't give me a straight answer over 2 days and sold it in the meantime. Managed to get £1400 over and above the £3k deposit contribution (£1000 of which comes from the dealership), so £2400 from the dealership and £2000 from VWFS.
10.3% effective discount on an "in stock" (waiting at Emden for a ship) S3 Sportback, Mythos Black, Red Calipers, 19" Trapezoid wheels, Comfort and Sound pack and HBA. Expecting to pick it up in 2-3 weeks.
Weird that even in the pandemic they were reluctant to contact you. With no call back for more than a week, I put in a second request. Have decided to contact another dealer a hundred miles away, if there is still no interest. Rather lame start of the Audi experience for me and I sincerely hope it's just a single stroke of bad luck rather than the standard modus operandi.
How soon do you want to change? If you're ready to go. It's always worth checking out the "in stock" listing per model on the Audi.co.uk website. There's an incoming price rise early next month, so get sorted before that kicks in. Seems £1000-1500 above the £3k deposit contribution is doable. Had a few dealers willing to offer £1000 over, and the one I'm using is £1400 over deposit contribution. Seemed a quick and easy acceptance too, I should have tried harder!
Thee are 6 "in stock" S3 Sportbacks on the Audi site right now. One in York, one in Wakefield, one in Grimsby (that one is mine, they haven't removed it yet) and 3 in Belfast. The Belfast trio are built and in Emden. They offered £1k over deposit, but buying from NI to GB is a nightmare.
Not sure about the exact amount, there's a sales and Lease guy on the Golf GTI forum that advises of rises, and he's said all VAG models are going up on 4th April.. he didn't specify for Audis. but Golfs going up by just under a grand. Would expect similar for A3/S3 variants. He's never been wrong yet and I even think the Drivethedeal website says about the rises too.
I have known VAG do 2 rises a year in plenty of years. If they think the market will bear it. they put their prices up. In the last 7 years, the Golf R has risen in price 33%, VAG aren't shy in putting up prices.
slightly off topic but does the rotr price include the luxury tax or just the standard £165? I get an s3 at £42900 rotr but not sure if their website knows to include the extra tax on?
I'm looking for a sedan and would really like to spec it myself. Thanks for the heads-up on the pricing. Even if production might take longer than usual, there are no delays with the price hikes, it seems.
ROTR price includes the first year's tax (which is about £945 +£55 first registration fee). For the next 5 years thereafter (Years 2 - 6), you will pay standard VED and the "Luxury" add on. Currently, the only S3 that ducks under the Luxury VED threshold is the absolutely bog standard in Ibis White and no extras (maybe one very cheap extra like HBA or red calipers). Whenthe price rise comes in, even bog standard will be over the threshold. Also, DVLA calculate RRP for tax purposes at point of delivery, not point of ordering- so if you order a £39k RRP car and before delivery the RRP goes up to £40.5k, even though you're paying based on the £39k prevailing when you placed the order, you will pay the Luxury VED.
If you get your order in before the price rise, you will lock in the current prices, just don't leave it to the day before the price rise as the price lock in is set the day the factory accepts your order, not the date the dealership accepts your order, and factory acceptance can be a few days later.
Also, if there's a good finance deal (as there is currently, £3k deposit contribution), get the finance accepted, you can always reapply later if a better deal comes along. I got stung this way once. Ordered a Golf R, dealer too lazy to do the finance at the time and a month later the GFV dropped £3k, effectively adding £92 to my monthlies. Nothing VWFS could or would do about it.
So Audi are increasing the price again and the way things are going their pcp rate will go up even more to about 15% lol, crazy surely it can’t go on like this and they’ll lose sales,”?
I wouldn't pay the current 10.8% .
I wouldn't be surprised if they are losing sales already .
Does anyone know why the Audi pcp final payment is so high? My bank say the car would be £18.5k to pay at end at 8.9% but Audi say £22.5k at 10.6% apr, is that purely due to the higher interest? Or are they just being sneaky somewhere?
I bet your overall monthly payments between the old and new terms is broadly the same.
The final payment is the absolute minimum that Audi think it'll be worth at the end of your term. From a capital repayment point of view, in your monthlies, you are only paying the difference between the purchase price and the GFV - this is the depreciation of the car over your term. From an interest repayment point of view, you are paying a higher %APR and paying interest in more of the car because you need to pay more of it off. So you will be paying more interest, but less capital, overall, you'll be paying broadly the same on a monthly basis. The £3k deposit contribution helps offset that extra interest too.
So if the Audi pcp is slightly less per month than with with my bank, isn’t it still better to use my bank if the gfv is 18k instead of 21k?
That depends.
1. If you're planning on buying the car by paying off the balloon payment at the end of your PCP term or are financing the cost of the whole car to total ownership, then use the bank's loan.
2. If you're planning on giving the car back at the end of term and not buying another Audi, go with the Audi finance, or do as per 1, but sell the Audi - at 3 or 4 years old it'll be worth more than what you owe on it.
3. If you're going to get another Audi at the end of your PCP, you could do either, but you'll probably have more equity in it with the bank loan.
Car finance is easier to get approval for than an unsecured personal loan, so keep that in mind if your credit rating is less than ideal.
Even if you don't go with the PCP to term, you still want to take it out and settle within 14 days to keep the deposit contribution (which will mean already having that bank loan set up to pay it off).
Thanks. I guess as the bank pcp has a gfv of only £18k instead of £21k with Audi I’d use the bank loan as I may want to refinance after 4 years. It can’t keep going up and up as no one will but their cars.
Also the GFV only kicks in at the end of the term remember - If you go early you get some interest rebated and at present used cars are really holding their price, but I've been in a situation in the past that the car's value was below what I owed (To be fair it was the dealer who messed it up by giving me my £1,000 deposit back when I collected the car but it was to complicated to try and explain it to them), but just worth noting re the GFV
I've just placed an order for a hybrid a3 through a lease company through my work. Anyone had an experience of what the wait time was like for the hybrids? I've been told estimated delivery of November
Isn’t the Audi deal bad though as it means I would be paying roughly the same each month but if I want to buy the car or buy and sell to make profit I have to pay more for the car with Audi compared to bank. Or am I missing something lol?
If you do as Audi intend (perpetually do a PCP every 3 years, always part-ex with the supplying dealership), you'll probably be no worse off. If you want to buy out the balloon payment to keep longer or sell privately, the bank loan is the better option, but only after you take out the PCP to grab the deposit contribution and settle within 14 days with your bank loan (which Audi finance really don't want you to do). Depending on the timing and your credit rating - it might be difficult to get accepted for the car finance and the bank loan. You've a better chance if you take out the bank loan before you need it as an unsecured bank loan will always be harder to get approved for than car finance secured against the car.
I order the A3 Sline competition back in sept 21. I’m still waiting for a confirmed build date. I received many build dates and each time they get pushed back. I am now looking at other options as I can’t keep waiting. My current build week is 18, I’ve not cancelled until I find an alternative replacement. If I do before the build date is confirmed I will definitely cancel.
Hi, we placed an order for an A3 40 TFSI E S Line, April 2022, still no confirm date as of yet and keeps getting pushed back, will let you know as soon as I receive it!
Have you tried looking on the Audi website for stock cars? There's lots of A3s there, I've secured an incoming S3 with an acceptable spec. Sat at Emden, waiting for a ship.
Really? Is that through a dealer or a leasing company? Or direct with Audi? Seems like somethings gone wrong there
Ah ****. Not very promising then. Hope you get something soon
Maybe there's something specific to that spec Audi are struggling to get the parts for?
Is that not a bit messy? Or do a lot of people do that? I might ask my bank if they’d let me do that otherwise I’d be lumbered with the Audi pcp deal lol if I can’t switch it in time. I’ve just looked again and the final payment with Audi is actually almost £22k where as my bank is £17.5k. Is that £4500 just due to the higher apr with the Audi deal? Also does anyone know if the s3 pcp calculator on Audi website is just for a generic s3? As it doesn’t let you add options etc. it just says retail price £41k and includes metallic paint.
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That’s through a leasing company. I’m not alone, there’s someone who ordered before me I recall July/Aug 21 and in the same position. I’ve even gone back and said just take all the additional options off. It still made no difference. It must be a part for sline 45 competition. The issue I have is it has to be white for work due to some sites I have to visit. I can get 35 or a 40 as I’ve seen them on a website follow for lease vehicles in stock which if your really quick you can get them in a few weeks, but not in white. I’ve now losing my patience with Audi so really looking for a replacement asap.
Messy? From a finance point of view, it might look like you are trying to get 2 big loans at once, which can be difficult to secure, but it will save you money.
How much is your Audi going to be worth at the end of your PCP? It won't be worth less with the bank loan, that lower GFV means you'll have paid more of the car off and will have more equity in it. With a £22.5k Audi GFV, the likelihood is that it'll retail used for £29-30k and you'll get at least £25k through the likes of Motorway.co.uk.
PCP convenience and easy trade ins come at a price. Audi's GFV is higher because Audi have more confidence than the bank that the car will be worth in excess of the GFV at the end of the term, and a higher GFV softens the impact of the higher APR%.
I'll take finance and pay off within 14 days to snag the £3k deposit contribution.
You will get little to no recognition for your optioned equipment in a GFV calculation. You should get some limited recognition for it if you sell to a performance car specialist in the future - big impact options like better wheels should definitely fetch more.
Which hybrid have you ordered 40e or 45e. If its the 40e November would seem reasonable but if the 45e did they say which year for the Nov 2024?
Mines just the 40 tfsie sport, and none of the optional extras, if that makes any difference to the wait time
