Emir Yilmaz
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Good day. I want to upgrade my S3 to stage2 and directly to stage3. Could you inform me about the parts that I need to change?
Thanks.
140.000km already.
Thanks.
140.000km already.
Good day. I want to upgrade my S3 to stage2 and directly to stage3. Could you inform me about the parts that I need to change?
Thanks.
140.000km already.
Yeah. I was looking at getting the TT pipe too. From what I’ve read the elbow seems to be the biggest restriction on the inlet side. I also like that it’s one piece. Did you notice any more spool up sound with the TT pipe? Or have you changed the panel too at the same time?
I went the exhaust route purely for sound at the moment. Just makes the car more fun to drive. Catback for now, DP when funds permit a retune.
Good numbers there. Lots of extra hardware for smaller gains (vs going to stg1) in terms of peak numbers, which was my point. But maybe there is a difference in the delivery, the overall performance of the car? The area under the curve as people often say...
What's the real world difference when driving a stage 2?
Order was intercooler for which I didnt really notice much difference although it seemed to keep the power stable without there being any fade. Then the oem intake mod which definitely let out more turbo and DV noise plus it felt a little bit stronger at higher rpms. Then, had the inlet pipe, plugs and remap. Yes there was more intake noise again but then its also running higher boost (1.5 bar instead of 1.1 ish) so its hard to know whether the large inlet pipe contributed to that.
Power delivery is great
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Yeah massive, just like stock to stage 1. That’s my point. Is it worth the effort/cost to go stage 2 though if you’re not going to 3?
Does stage 2 still give you that same wow feeling when you get it?
I own a Audi S3 8V sportback 2018 model and I decided to go stage 1 and broke the gearbox. Luckily it was the clutch packs that needed replacing, decided to go with an uprated racing clutch pack from TVS engineering I can now push up to 600 nm of torque which is more than enough. So far no more problems with the gearbox which is good, but it was an expensive repair!
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Yeah you're right, the race clutch makes a whole lot of difference to the transmission it's definitely worth it. I just need to get the TVS software now, currently running a custom map but will be changing that soonI'm running stage 3 tvs software on standard clutches and takes up to 700 nm I'm current pushing 690 with racing clutches you will be able to run 850 nm on stage 4 software
I've currently got a custom TCU map on my car and I agree it's not the best I get harsh gear changes sometimes when I upshift. I've got the TVS clutch pack in my gearbox at the moment that maybe why it's slightly harsh but I think it's due to the TCU map as well.I've been reading a little into the TVS stuff. I have a TCU map and whilst it is good, it does feel a bit clunky at times. Mostly ok, but sometimes not particularly smooth. It seems to be just when dropping into the lower gears when coming slowing to give way or stop and not all of the time either. I figured this is just part of the deal with TCU tuning?
Anyway I read that the TVS maps are a bit more OEM like in terms of smoothness, whilst offering the same benefits. So maybe not all TCU tunes are created equal. What are others' experiences with their TCU tunes?
I've currently got a custom TCU map on my car and I agree it's not the best I get harsh gear changes sometimes when I upshift. I've got the TVS clutch pack in my gearbox at the moment that maybe why it's slightly harsh but I think it's due to the TCU map as well.
I'm going to get the TVS stage 3 TCU software installed sometime this month or next and see if it improves the gear shifts.
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It should be fine, don't do too many launches on the stock clutch though as it strains the gearbox. I did quite a few launches when I had stage 1 and the gearbox broke and started smoking one expensive repair though lol...so when reading about torque limitations for the DSG, is this simply for the clutch packs or for mechanics of the gearbox itself? Been a bit worried about giving mine too much since I had the map.
I bought one of those dragy boxes to do a bit of a before and after test for going stage 1 (and because I like a gadget), but I've been too scared to do the after test I've got adjustable launch RPM, so maybe I should just do the softest one and cross my fingers. Only done it twice in the whole time I've owned it
Well yeah the higher the stage the more custom the map is. Many remapping companies re map cars differently to others.So with the higher stages are they more of a custom map? Seem to remember reading that they tweak these higher maps till they're happy with them..
It should be fine, don't do too many launches on the stock clutch though as it strains the gearbox. I did quite a few launches when I had stage 1 and the gearbox broke and started smoking one expensive repair though lol
Well yeah the higher the stage the more custom the map is. Many remapping companies re map cars differently to others.
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Ugh, never do a proper launch it's so mechanically unsympathetic. Mine is a manual so I get it moving in first fairly quickly with a bit of slip but once the clutch is fully engaged then floor it. Works well. Perhaps it loses several tenths maybe half a second but I've still seen 60 in a fraction under 4 seconds on a good one.
IMO if you really want to tell the difference then measure the car on an appropriate road from a steady 30 with it in 2nd and ready to go, up to something like 100 before and after.
...on an appropriate road from a steady 30 with it in 2nd and ready to go, up to something like 100 before and after...
See this sort of talk is what has me worried If the clutch is the issue then I'm sure that will wear out eventually and then I'd fit something better. At least that's my plan in general. If/when I get the DP and go stage 2 they have a stage 2 TCU map, so maybe that's better. I can ask I guess. It's just tricky cause I'm essentially saying "the maps not good is this one any better"
That's always been my thoughts on the LC and why I've only done it twice (of those only once in earnest). I did it once to check when I had the Haldex issues and once the day before the map. I've had the car coming up 6 years, so twice in that time is probably nothing to worry about. I know some folk do it all the time and seem to have no issues, and maybe this is fine when stock, but it sure isn't going to make things last any longer
Yeah the Dragy does different timings 30-60 etc, and you can program your own in, for me it would be more of a gimmick/fun thing. I'm not bothered about a few tenths of a second, but would be nice to know roughly. I can definitely feel it's way quicker in every way, just nice to have some figures sometimes.
The butt dyno doesnt lie but it becomes desensitized after a while making one paranoid that something is breaking / broken
0-120 in 12.5 secs v stock in about 18 secs
60-120 in 6th only : 12 secs vs ragging it through 3rd and 4th when stock : 13.5 secs
I go stage 2 soon.
I think I will go for these parts.
-armytrix downpipe
-res delete
-cts air intake
-cts turbo inlet pipe
-stage 2 remap
would this be good? or do you guys have better suggestions
I would add a cooler to that as well pal.