2.0 tfsi a viable replacement?

[TDi lover]

Hi all,

Im wondering what kind of mpg you get from your 2.0 tfsi. Its quoted as being able to do 50+ mpg. I dont think this is very likely but wanted to know what you were getting and your driving style. Obviously if you drive with a lead foot mpg wont be great.
Im looking at either one of these engines or the 1.4 tfsi in my next car. I currently drive a Seat Exeo 2.0 tdi cr 170 sport tech saloon.
For those who may not know this was based on the A4 from 2005-08 on the B7 platform but had the cabriolet interior.
I love the car but I am thinking of switching to petrol but would still like to be able to reach 45mpg+ when doing a decent journey of around 20 miles. My current car will do 50+ on a long trip or high 40's if its around 20 miles on mixed roads.

Do you think the 2.0 tfsi is a viable alternative or should i go with the 1.4 tfsi?

 

[Daggerit]

If the road is relatively flat then my S4 can get about 40mpg on a run like that, I imagine that you'd be fine with the 2.0TFSI. I don't know about the 1.4TFSI because sometimes they seem to struggle a bit at the higher cruising speeds, but I'm sure that there will be someone in here that will be able to weigh in!

 

[TDi lover]

Thats interesting from an S4. Unfortunately where i live and surrounding area is quite hilly.

 

[Fozzie1960]

The best I have had from my TFSI Quattro is 48mpg to Leicestershire and back. Last week driving back from Hastings via the A259 and M20, a journey of 85 miles I got 42mpg. However, on short urban journeys near home, it never does anything better than 24mpg. I'm sure the TFSI 190 can do better.

 

[Daggerit]

Thats interesting from an S4. Unfortunately where i live and surrounding area is quite hilly.

Yeah, down south where it's flatter I managed to average a measured (not DIS) 39mpg over 200 (ish) miles. Up here I was driving Aberdeen to Dundee for work for a while which is quite up and down and with some town driving it was averaging 29mpg measured. Not horrible for a big engine!

As Fozzie says, the short trips are where the mpg takes a massive hit. In 10 minutes of stop-start traffic I'll be lucky if I can get double figures... I test drove the 2.0T 190 and it was plenty power in reality and managed good economy I thought, I just can't remember what the actual figures were off the top of my head I'm afraid.

Ask for a test drive and hit your route and see what mpg you get?

 

[BKing]

I've managed 44 on a motorway run from Bristol to Heathrow and back (at around 75mph). Around town, like others have said, I get mid 20s if stop start, low 30s if little traffic. That's in the 252 quattro.

 

[Simonwhite2000]

There is also car insurance to think about as the 2.0 might increase the premium. Personally I am not too concerned about the MPG as my wife only travels 6 miles each way to work so the impact will be minimal.

 

[cuke2u]

I am currently seeing around 35mpg on my urban commute and have seen an average of 50-55mpg on a run from Hastings, where it is supposed to be flatter ;-), to Suffolk.
Just do not take the quoted figures for any car to be gospel as they are only there for comparison under test conditions and we should see more 'real world' figures soon.
This site may help https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/audi/a4-b9-2015

 

[TDi lover]

I drive over to Hastings quite a lot and grew up there. So I know what hills are
I dont do huge miles each year only about 8000 so I dont know how much difference I would see to the wallet if i averaged say 25-30mpg compared to my tdi which gives me 42 over the last 9000 miles.

 

[TDi lover]

Wow. Just worked it out. At 42mpg over 8000 miles with an average fuel price of 130p per litre it was £1125
At 30mpg it was 1575
Considering petrol is only 3p cheaper this brings it down to 1539. Thats still a good £400 per year saving.

 

[f1nny]

Having owned a 2.o 190ps in Manual form which had a slightly worse mpg book figure than the s-stronic. I use to average 42.45 mpg, on many occasions I use to get 44mpg. On my final journey when I sold the car I managed 50.5mpg over 180 miles.

However my route nearly takes me over 60mph and 9/10 is free flowing.

These 2.0 tfsi in the A4 is a fantastic engine and returns excellent mpg for what it is.

 

[cuke2u]

I would be happy with 25mpg around town with this sublime engine but even that would have been better than my normally aspirated 2.0l petrol mk1 mondeo ever was.
The world is obsessed by mpg, personally it is the very last tick on my box.

 

[wideboybloke]

My long term memory shows an average of 39 mpg over 14000 miles. That is a fair mixture of motorway, town and extra urban driving. The most economical driving according to the DIS is cruising at 50-60 mph when mine will show up to 48/49 mpg - not quite 50, although others claim to get that. The problem you will find is holding the car back at 50-60 mph as you can feel all the while it just wants to go! When you do let it have its head it’s just marvellous, so much power I love it. I don’t think the 2.0 litre tfsi will be too far off the figures you’re getting wit( your Exeo.

 

[TDi lover]

Very interesting. I know driving style, roads and weather play a big part in mpg but there does seem to be a big difference between a lot of peoples mpg. As was mentioned earlier I think a good test drive is required at some stage. I do sometimes wonder if people get good and bad engines even though they should all be made to exact standards. Ive seen similar things said about the 1.4tsi on other cars where some people struggle to get near 40mpg yet others are getting 50mpg.

 

[cptjay]

If the road is relatively flat then my S4 can get about 40mpg on a run like that, I imagine that you'd be fine with the 2.0TFSI. I don't know about the 1.4TFSI because sometimes they seem to struggle a bit at the higher cruising speeds, but I'm sure that there will be someone in here that will be able to weigh in!

Wow - struggle to get past 23mpg in mine, but can't say I try and my right foot is quite heavy!

 

[Daggerit]

Wow - struggle to get past 23mpg in mine, but can't say I try and my right foot is quite heavy!

Aye, that’s it in efficiency on a dual carriageway cruise. Not back roads or much town.


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[pagenotfound]

Very interesting. I know driving style, roads and weather play a big part in mpg but there does seem to be a big difference between a lot of peoples mpg. As was mentioned earlier I think a good test drive is required at some stage. I do sometimes wonder if people get good and bad engines even though they should all be made to exact standards. Ive seen similar things said about the 1.4tsi on other cars where some people struggle to get near 40mpg yet others are getting 50mpg.

Well, don't forget that it is just as likely that there are probably more bad drivers than bad engines to account for poor mpg returns. Some relatively simple changes to driving style can have a pretty decent effect on fuel use. Also, fuel cost isn't the only thing to factor in, as you seem to do a relatively low mileage I'd be more concerned with dpf and egr issues on a diesel which will eat up any savings made at the fuel pump.

 

[TDi lover]

Fair enough. I've had my Exeo since it was just short of a year old when I got it in March 2012 and never had any issues with dpf or egr. Cant remember if mine has egr? I've never even had to do the burning phase for when it gets clogged up. I must do enough long journeys to clear it or long enough at any rate. I dont necessarily use my car on a daily basis. Sometimes when I havent bothered to put fuel in it and my wife doesnt bother to use it instead of her Ibiza it can sit around for a week or so doing nothing as I get the train to work most the time.

 

[Nickfrog]

Hi all,

I love the car but I am thinking of switching to petrol but would still like to be able to reach 45mpg+ when doing a decent journey of around 20 miles. My current car will do 50+ on a long trip or high 40's if its around 20 miles on mixed roads.

My commute is 25 miles of mixed town/ Dual CW/ country roads and my historical average in the 1.4 manual Avant on 18's is exactly 40mpg verified after 3,500 miles from new. Delighted with that as I am not trying to save fuel. I would imagine the 2.0 would hardly use more but was substantially more to lease and is more to buy. The 1.4 is surprisingly quick for road use. It never hampers me as traffic, line of sight and licence preservation are the primary limiting factor. But I would suggest a test drive.

 

[DAN@ADRIAN FLUX]

Hi,
If you did have any issues with insurance at all then please feel free to drop me a line.
Regards,
Dan.

 

[TDi lover]

Hi,
If you did have any issues with insurance at all then please feel free to drop me a line.
Regards,
Dan.

Thats a bit random but thanks anyway. Lol.
Not sure why i would have an issue on a standard vehicle being over 30 and having 8 years+ ncb but you weren't to know that I suppose. Something like that any way i cant remember off the top of my head. Currently with direct line costing about £280.

If I were to remap one or something then I will probably look you up. I had a modded 2003 seat ibiza 130tdi sport before the exeo. That was getting 181bhp and 410 lbft torque on a custom code stage 1 map and various other mods. Dont think i'll be going down that route in a hurry as my clutch burnt out very quickly after the map and had to spend over £600 on a biogenic clutch i think it was. That was 10 years ago.

 

[wideboybloke]

Thats a bit random but thanks anyway. Lol.
Not sure why i would have an issue on a standard vehicle being over 30 and having 8 years+ ncb but you weren't to know that I suppose. Something like that any way i cant remember off the top of my head. Currently with direct line costing about £280.

If I were to remap one or something then I will probably look you up. I had a modded 2003 seat ibiza 130tdi sport before the exeo. That was getting 181bhp and 410 lbft torque on a custom code stage 1 map and various other mods. Dont think i'll be going down that route in a hurry as my clutch burnt out very quickly after the map and had to spend over £600 on a biogenic clutch i think it was. That was 10 years ago.

There’s a lesson for us all there, I think!

 

[Paul Golding]

I'm pretty shocked by mine! Having just had a weekend in Bath, around 165 miles each way and probably 130 of that being motorway, with a lot of that on cruise control at 75 (not the M25 bit admittedly), I got 54+ going and 52+ coming back.

 

[Syed Shah]

Just for reference, I have the s-tronic 1.4tfsi.

Long journeys (long motorway stretch) anywhere between 50-56mpg

Shorter journeys (a and b roads for 20-40 miles) - 35-44mpg

Local, town driving - 22-30mpg at the very most.

Apparently the manual equivalent claims better mpg figures, so could be a decent recommendation.

Edit: my car is on 8400 miles and that is the figures I achieve.

 

[TDi lover]

Well it seems the 1.4 in terms of mpg would be fine and at 8.7 0-62 thats not bad. My Exeo does it in 8.4. I dont really want to go slower albeit 0.3 seconds. I do wonder if putting a map on a 1.4 would be a good idea? VW/Audi produced the 1.4 turbo at 170bhp in the past (or was it only the turbo supercharged that went to 170) and I feel they must have withdrawn that option for a reason and reverted back to either the 1.8 or 2.0 turbo.

 

[cuke2u]

Get the 2.0l if you don't wish to argue about warranty, insurance, TD1 issues....

 

[TDi lover]

Oh, when I do buy then thats not likely to be a big issue as I will buy second hand. Im not comfortable with leasing as my wife will scuff the alloys and they will dock loads of money when it comes to hand back time. Plus drivers where I live are crap. The amount of times i come back to the car to find a new dink or scuff its not worth it. I dont have a drive so parking where i live is very tight. 2-3 years old is likely to be what im looking for with upto 20-30k miles dependent on age. My car has only done 44k over its 7 years.

 

[cuke2u]

Ok fair enough...

 

[TDi lover]

Does the 1.4 share the same clutch system as the 2.0? I highly doubt it but if it does then that should be able to handle the power of a remap. The last question would be can the turbo?

 

[cuke2u]

I had a tuning box on my A3 1.4 without any issues. Obviously if you thrash it then expect some....

 

[TDi lover]

For the most part I tend to cruise around as you always get stuck behind someone slow anyway doing 40 in 60 limits etc on roads with limited overtaking opportunities. I do like to use the power a bit when the opportunity arises for an overtake or when you get to a dual carriage way and you can finally blast past the slow people holding everyone up.

 

[WM Jon]

I have a 2.0 TFSI quattro Avant and have a commute of 25 miles each way, most of which on dual carriageway and some motorway. I always get between 28 - 30 mpg. Spent a month calculating it myself when filling up opposed to going off what the car displays. The car shows 31 mpg so not far off.

 

[wecanseeformiles]

I've been getting 40 mpg from my 1.4 manual on a mixture of country B roads, town and motorway. The 1.4's not slow and has more than enough oompth to deal with modern driving conditions. It's as fast as my first VW Golf GTI Mk 1, which back in the early eighties we all thought of as amazingly quick. Time moves on, of course, and I'm not going to talk anyone out of the 2.0TFSI, but the 1.4 is not a penalty box.