Hi @terminator x.
Of course, we can all have an opinion that it is worth or not. If I still had my RS3, I would probably not prefer to change despite improvements.
I agree it's hard to defend the cost if you already got a RS3.
RS3 PFL Vs RS3 FL
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Hi @terminator x.
Of course, we can all have an opinion that it is worth or not. If I still had my RS3, I would probably not prefer to change despite improvements.
I agree it's hard to defend the cost if you already got a RS3.
I'd noticed the lack of EU GB plates too and I plan to ask for them to be fitted by the dealer.
Wow, you folks are lucky - we can struggle to get a car unaccompanied for an hour here in the UK.
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I think the problem UK dealers have, unlike those in New Zealand, is the speed it is possible to get a car out of the country with just about all modes of transport being drive on drive off no questions asked!
Having said that I have managed to get week end loans on three of the last four cars I have purchased relatively easy.
Having said that I have managed to get week end loans on three of the last four cars I have purchased relatively easy.
When I've asked for an overnight loan it's normally a no because the cars are used by sales staff. How did you manage?
I think the problem is two fold:
1) Audis sell themselves, so the sales folk don't feel they need to try. With the increase in AWD offerings could on other marques their sense of entitlement will hopefully diminish.
2) Too many tire-kickers just wanting a raz to put on YouTube. Tends to be less of an issue when you've built a relationship with a dealer.
1) Audis sell themselves, so the sales folk don't feel they need to try. With the increase in AWD offerings could on other marques their sense of entitlement will hopefully diminish.
2) Too many tire-kickers just wanting a raz to put on YouTube. Tends to be less of an issue when you've built a relationship with a dealer.
I will be interested to hear from PFL owners who do test drive a FL and can report back actual real world differences.
I'm not interested in a FL right now as I am not due a change for 1.5 years but I am still interested to know how the cars compare.
I'm not interested in a FL right now as I am not due a change for 1.5 years but I am still interested to know how the cars compare.
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Supposed to have a test drive in one Saturday next. They are not sure if SB or Sedan.
Will compose a non-biased review.
Supposed to have a test drive in one Saturday next. They are not sure if SB or Sedan.
Will compose a non-biased review.
I spoke to my man in Glasgow Audi on Saturday there while I was in.
I asked about the new RS3 as the new RS5 was on display and I was told that he doubts they'll have one in this year.
So good for you mate if you can get one to test drive,look forward to your thoughts on it.
I asked about the new RS3 as the new RS5 was on display and I was told that he doubts they'll have one in this year.
So good for you mate if you can get one to test drive,look forward to your thoughts on it.
The Dealership has confirmed the booking of a black RS3 sedan for pick up tomorrow morning. Exciting times!
Hi All
So i picked up the FL sedan yesterday morning, the black sedan i was booked in for was not returned, so the dealership gave me the Aura Blue sedan instead
Quick review of the FL and some footage i took with the GoPro via YouTube.
First impressions of this FL.
Exterior:
Excellent contrast with the Aura blue and Matt aluminium styling pack, looks astonishing in person. Pictures really don't do the FL any justice.. hands down this is the best colour to get. The front has a nice sleek design, very aggressive look. The dynamic tail lights and the rear diffuser with bigger exhaust tips looks the Business however, the tacky reflectors on the bumper need to go.
The real let down for me are the blade wheels, such an average design. I would not think twice to go for the rotor wheel package to complete the aggressive look.
Interior:
The steering wheel has alcantara on the sides as oppose to the PFL with it being on the top and bottom. Love the feel of alcantara but i do think with it being on the sides it'l dirty easily and wear out overtime.
The virtual cockpit- didn't play around with it too much, the Nav and digital speedo are very impressive, it sure does have the "cool" factor.
Everything else is the same as the PFL in terms of seats, floor mats, mmi screen size etc.
Performance:
Power wise, yes there is a noticeable difference, it felt quicker of the mark and it kept my body planted to the seat right through until the redline. Another noticeable positive is the shifts are smoother in sports/manual mode, there is a pleasant transition through the gears slightly quicker and less clunky then my PFL. However, there is that dreadful delay when downshifting.
I didn't push the car as hard as I'd like around the bends being that i was on a public road and the surface was wet. I can't confirm whether it performs better handling wise. Unless you drove the car like you stole it i doubt you would notice a major difference on the street, It felt more or less the same as my PFL.
I'd love to see a comparison video of both cars on a track.
Suspension wise, nice and tight, suspension is a little soft in Dynamic, a touch more pleasant drive but then again i have those average H&R lowering springs installed on PFL.
The let down was the exhaust sound, it does lack the high pitched pops and bangs my PFL makes, very disappointing
. I even questioned the dealer twice whether or not it had a sports exhaust! He did say a lot of people commented on how much more tame the FL exhaust is. -refer to videos for sound
Conclusion:
Will i be trading in my PFL with $30k nzd on top for a new FL? Not just yet. I can not justify spending that kind of money right now for similar performance and a few cosmetic changes. I wasn't left thinking wow what an amazing upgrade, it was all to familiar from the older rs3. Perhaps i would think differently if i was to take the car around a racetrack on a fine day?
The only disappointment was the exhaust sound.
Link for videos : https://www.youtube.com/user/rpuin2
Some pics on my instagram : rs3_richie
So i picked up the FL sedan yesterday morning, the black sedan i was booked in for was not returned, so the dealership gave me the Aura Blue sedan instead
Quick review of the FL and some footage i took with the GoPro via YouTube.
First impressions of this FL.
Exterior:
Excellent contrast with the Aura blue and Matt aluminium styling pack, looks astonishing in person. Pictures really don't do the FL any justice.. hands down this is the best colour to get. The front has a nice sleek design, very aggressive look. The dynamic tail lights and the rear diffuser with bigger exhaust tips looks the Business however, the tacky reflectors on the bumper need to go.
The real let down for me are the blade wheels, such an average design. I would not think twice to go for the rotor wheel package to complete the aggressive look.
Interior:
The steering wheel has alcantara on the sides as oppose to the PFL with it being on the top and bottom. Love the feel of alcantara but i do think with it being on the sides it'l dirty easily and wear out overtime.
The virtual cockpit- didn't play around with it too much, the Nav and digital speedo are very impressive, it sure does have the "cool" factor.
Everything else is the same as the PFL in terms of seats, floor mats, mmi screen size etc.
Performance:
Power wise, yes there is a noticeable difference, it felt quicker of the mark and it kept my body planted to the seat right through until the redline. Another noticeable positive is the shifts are smoother in sports/manual mode, there is a pleasant transition through the gears slightly quicker and less clunky then my PFL. However, there is that dreadful delay when downshifting.
I didn't push the car as hard as I'd like around the bends being that i was on a public road and the surface was wet. I can't confirm whether it performs better handling wise. Unless you drove the car like you stole it i doubt you would notice a major difference on the street, It felt more or less the same as my PFL.
I'd love to see a comparison video of both cars on a track.
Suspension wise, nice and tight, suspension is a little soft in Dynamic, a touch more pleasant drive but then again i have those average H&R lowering springs installed on PFL.
The let down was the exhaust sound, it does lack the high pitched pops and bangs my PFL makes, very disappointing
. I even questioned the dealer twice whether or not it had a sports exhaust! He did say a lot of people commented on how much more tame the FL exhaust is. -refer to videos for soundConclusion:
Will i be trading in my PFL with $30k nzd on top for a new FL? Not just yet. I can not justify spending that kind of money right now for similar performance and a few cosmetic changes. I wasn't left thinking wow what an amazing upgrade, it was all to familiar from the older rs3. Perhaps i would think differently if i was to take the car around a racetrack on a fine day?
The only disappointment was the exhaust sound.
Link for videos : https://www.youtube.com/user/rpuin2
Some pics on my instagram : rs3_richie
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Steering wheel change is strange too. The alcantara on mine (top and bottom) is already smooth after 30k miles so imho the PFL will do that much quicker.
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Hi All
So i picked up the FL sedan yesterday morning, the black sedan i was booked in for was not returned, so the dealership gave me the Aura Blue sedan instead
Quick review of the FL and some footage i took with the GoPro via YouTube.
First impressions of this FL.
Exterior:
Excellent contrast with the Aura blue and Matt aluminium styling pack, looks astonishing in person. Pictures really don't do the FL any justice.. hands down this is the best colour to get. The front has a nice sleek design, very aggressive look. The dynamic tail lights and the rear diffuser with bigger exhaust tips looks the Business however, the tacky reflectors on the bumper need to go.
The real let down for me are the blade wheels, such an average design. I would not think twice to go for the rotor wheel package to complete the aggressive look.
Interior:
The steering wheel has alcantara on the sides as oppose to the PFL with it being on the top and bottom. Love the feel of alcantara but i do think with it being on the sides it'l dirty easily and wear out overtime.
The virtual cockpit- didn't play around with it too much, the Nav and digital speedo are very impressive, it sure does have the "cool" factor.
Everything else is the same as the PFL in terms of seats, floor mats, mmi screen size etc.
Performance:
Power wise, yes there is a noticeable difference, it felt quicker of the mark and it kept my body planted to the seat right through until the redline. Another noticeable positive is the shifts are smoother in sports/manual mode, there is a pleasant transition through the gears slightly quicker and less clunky then my PFL. However, there is that dreadful delay when downshifting.
I didn't push the car as hard as I'd like around the bends being that i was on a public road and the surface was wet. I can't confirm whether it performs better handling wise. Unless you drove the car like you stole it i doubt you would notice a major difference on the street, It felt more or less the same as my PFL.
I'd love to see a comparison video of both cars on a track.
Suspension wise, nice and tight, suspension is a little soft in Dynamic, a touch more pleasant drive but then again i have those average H&R lowering springs installed on PFL.
The let down was the exhaust sound, it does lack the high pitched pops and bangs my PFL makes, very disappointing
Conclusion:
Will i be trading in my PFL with $30k nzd on top for a new FL? Not just yet. I can not justify spending that kind of money right now for similar performance and a few cosmetic changes. I wasn't left thinking wow what an amazing upgrade, it was all to familiar from the older rs3. Perhaps i would think differently if i was to take the car around a racetrack on a fine day?
The only disappointment was the exhaust sound.
Link for videos : https://www.youtube.com/user/rpuin2
Some pics on my instagram : rs3_richie
Extremely disappointed with the exhaust sound, like you wouldn't believe.. Who the hell signed off on that at Audi :'(
Looks like I will be getting the secondary cat deletes on the first week. My S3 was the same, had a job to hear the pops before the centre silencer delete inside the car.. afterwards, they are loud but not RS3 loud.
I hope that somebody who knows what they are doing gets their hands on one, so we can find out what in the exhaust has silenced the pops. Unless if they have held back on the map on them? If there is anything in the exhaust, it's coming out!!
That really is disappointing, surely it has to be something to do with the exhaust as the videos of the AUTOMANN TTRS sound amazing with the loud pops and bangs... Unless the maps are different which I very much doubt because the performance figures are very similar... Only time will tell hopefully a simple mod...
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Bit awkward if concerned about invalidating your warranty.
I agree the disappointment that doesn´t bang as PFL.
I Think Youtube Daniel Karjadi describe it very well about the exhaust sound and what he think about the acoustics sound in the cabin.
I Think Youtube Daniel Karjadi describe it very well about the exhaust sound and what he think about the acoustics sound in the cabin.
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I think the sound is still good, just less bangs. And I can live with that
I like the saloon, we all different taste what is more beautiful. So it's good then that the RS3 is available in sportback and saloon
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Isn't the pop and bangs to do with fuel being injected into the exhaust where it explodes due to the heat creating the sound.... looks like Audi has stemmed this flow of fuel some how.
Would have to look at schematics or technical information on the PFL exhaust and see what difference is to the FL version.
Would have to look at schematics or technical information on the PFL exhaust and see what difference is to the FL version.
He has an Audi Sport shirt on, if he's representing Audi he can't go on about understeer
I'm also very jealous of his shirt..
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I think Audi must have had a wuzz' day out at Lime Rock - not only did Hans Stuck drive on the same place pretty well for all of his tirade, the lead-follow behind an R8 only managed to briefly touch 100mph! And still the driver had to wear full race regalia with the average speed about 50..! I was not counting, but I think the RS3 hit third gear once with the rest in second - I am surprised Audi even allowed him to switch on dynamic mode!
One of the comments above I find odd.
Comments about the PFL gearbox being lumpy & not smooth ?
I have never noticed this at all & the car fires through the changes without any lunging or lurching at all - up & down perefctly smooth.
Totally agree on the steering wheel.
The alcantara looks nice but I fear Audi have not used the best grade as mine is also wearing / shining and I make a point of touching it as little as possible. On the sides it will wear in no time, unless they have upped the quality of the alcantara, which I doubt.
I love the look of the alcatara, just not its wear rate.
Comments about the PFL gearbox being lumpy & not smooth ?
I have never noticed this at all & the car fires through the changes without any lunging or lurching at all - up & down perefctly smooth.
Totally agree on the steering wheel.
The alcantara looks nice but I fear Audi have not used the best grade as mine is also wearing / shining and I make a point of touching it as little as possible. On the sides it will wear in no time, unless they have upped the quality of the alcantara, which I doubt.
I love the look of the alcatara, just not its wear rate.
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When mines is in getting cleaned the guy uses a damp leather cleaning cloth which takes the dirt out of it and brushes the alcantara up on it again,still looks good.
Cars in Audi with gear box out of it due to a suspected crank shaft oil seal leak.
Cars in Audi with gear box out of it due to a suspected crank shaft oil seal leak.
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Just did a similar review on another thread. Agree with most of what you said, including the sound. Not sure why Audi have toned it down...perhaps emissions and to make it more neighbour friendly.Hi All
So i picked up the FL sedan yesterday morning, the black sedan i was booked in for was not returned, so the dealership gave me the Aura Blue sedan instead
Quick review of the FL and some footage i took with the GoPro via YouTube.
First impressions of this FL.
Exterior:
Excellent contrast with the Aura blue and Matt aluminium styling pack, looks astonishing in person. Pictures really don't do the FL any justice.. hands down this is the best colour to get. The front has a nice sleek design, very aggressive look. The dynamic tail lights and the rear diffuser with bigger exhaust tips looks the Business however, the tacky reflectors on the bumper need to go.
The real let down for me are the blade wheels, such an average design. I would not think twice to go for the rotor wheel package to complete the aggressive look.
Interior:
The steering wheel has alcantara on the sides as oppose to the PFL with it being on the top and bottom. Love the feel of alcantara but i do think with it being on the sides it'l dirty easily and wear out overtime.
The virtual cockpit- didn't play around with it too much, the Nav and digital speedo are very impressive, it sure does have the "cool" factor.
Everything else is the same as the PFL in terms of seats, floor mats, mmi screen size etc.
Performance:
Power wise, yes there is a noticeable difference, it felt quicker of the mark and it kept my body planted to the seat right through until the redline. Another noticeable positive is the shifts are smoother in sports/manual mode, there is a pleasant transition through the gears slightly quicker and less clunky then my PFL. However, there is that dreadful delay when downshifting.
I didn't push the car as hard as I'd like around the bends being that i was on a public road and the surface was wet. I can't confirm whether it performs better handling wise. Unless you drove the car like you stole it i doubt you would notice a major difference on the street, It felt more or less the same as my PFL.
I'd love to see a comparison video of both cars on a track.
Suspension wise, nice and tight, suspension is a little soft in Dynamic, a touch more pleasant drive but then again i have those average H&R lowering springs installed on PFL.
The let down was the exhaust sound, it does lack the high pitched pops and bangs my PFL makes, very disappointing
Conclusion:
Will i be trading in my PFL with $30k nzd on top for a new FL? Not just yet. I can not justify spending that kind of money right now for similar performance and a few cosmetic changes. I wasn't left thinking wow what an amazing upgrade, it was all to familiar from the older rs3. Perhaps i would think differently if i was to take the car around a racetrack on a fine day?
The only disappointment was the exhaust sound.
Link for videos : https://www.youtube.com/user/rpuin2
Some pics on my instagram : rs3_richie
Here there isn't any even around to see never-mind drive, never-mind keep for the weekend, had to order sight unseen to even get a production slot. perhaps I could have waited until late 18 and taken my chances, but....
