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Will I be the first here to get their second A3 8V? :D

Discussion in 'New A3/S3 (8V Chassis)' started by Vertigo1, Jan 11, 2014.

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    Well I was one of the first to get an 8V, in October 2012, and it was only on a two year lease so will be due for replacement in just over nine months!

    Already wondering what to get next. The Sportback e-tron is looking very interesting I must say but a lot depends on when exactly it's available and the prices. Failing that, the dealer currently has an A3 S-Line Saloon in white on 19" rims which looks amazing!!
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    If it was me and now it's out I would go for anything with the new 184 tdi engine linked with Quattro system FTW !
    It wasn't available when I ordered mine otherwise I would have it, failing that I'm thinking new a5 2.0 tdi s line 184 Quattro or q5 when they're available .

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    I may beat you, had my 8v S3 since August and have my second one coming to replace it in April :)
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    Company car so it's all about CO2 emissions for me although I think the 184 is actually in the same band as the 150. Definitely appealing as I had two 170PS 8Ps and had to drop down to 150 with the 8V, although Quattro is usually a non-starter as it jacks the CO2 up too much so the cost of the option itself plus the additional tax doesn't justify it and I'd rather spend the dosh elsewhere :)
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    8 months?!? I thought I was bad changing cars :p How come you're swapping it?
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    The 150 manual is 108 g/km, the 150 s-tronic is 119, the 184 manual is 110 and the 184 s-tronic quattro is 129.
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    My dealer who's a mate rang me and asked if I want a new one for no cost... It would be silly not to ;)
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    The 150 manual is actually 106 g/km but yeah, basically Quattro whacks the emissions right up and hence more tax.
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    The 150 is 108g/km in the current Pricing and Specification Guide not that it makes any difference to the tax band.
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    The e-tron does look really good, I would be tempted with that to be honest
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    Weird, mine's definitely 106. Not sure why it's gone up slightly, perhaps a few changes to the standard spec has altered the weight a bit.

    Yeah the e-tron looks amazing - basically a full 150PS diesel A3 but with a small electric motor and battery for short trips. Even putting aside my affinity for Audis, it genuinely looks like the first sensible hybrid that's not a horrible compromise. You get a "normal" diesel A3 but with the benefit of an electric mode for short journeys. The vast majority of my trips are just a few miles to and from work or the shops and so on and this is when any diesel or petrol engine is at it's least efficient. The e-tron would allow me to do all of these trips solely on electric power, keeping the diesel engine for longer journeys.
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    The e-tron has a 1.4 petrol, not a diesel. There are actually very few diesel hybrids around - Volvo do one, I think Lexus have just brought one out, but they are few and far between.

    I've said long before I got this car that I want, and intend, for it to be my last car with an internal combustion engine - I want to go fully electric on my next car. I hope they make an all-electric A3 by then! Only trouble at the moment is that I live in a block of flats with communal parking and nowhere to charge a plug in car, but part of the plan is to move somewhere that I can do this!
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    Ah my mistake.

    Fully electric cars only really make sense as short range city runabouts at present due to the range and recharging issues. That said, if such a car works for you then things like the new BMW i3 look amazing.

    The full electric revolution won't take off until someone solves the "power supply" problem. Carting around a shedload of batteries isn't the answer - we either need an efficient means of generating the electricity on the go (from small efficient combustion engines, hydrogen or whatever) or else a revolution in battery technology. Until that happens then, for those of us who want the benefits of electric for short urban trips but with the flexibility of a combustion engine for longer journeys, cars like the A3 e-tron look very attractive.
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    Im on my second 8v a3, first was a 1.4 tfsi s-line that I got October 2012 (one of first I saw on road for about 6 months!) on my second a 63 s3!
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    Just take a look at the Tesla Model S if you think range is a problem - has a better range than my old petrol car in top spec! Although it's rare anyone would do a journey that needs the whole range, you don't use them like you do a normal car - you are charging / topping it up every time you aren't driving it, rather than letting it run down and then charging it all at once.

    I don't think there is a power supply problem really. Batteries are improving all the time. Hydrogen isn't the answer either - prohibitively expensive at the moment, and a very inefficient means of transporting electricity around to be honest. You might be able to store more of it at once, but I don't think that'll be the case for much longer.

    Battery swap-out is a good answer, combined with the current Renault and Nissan schemes where they rent the battery to you rather than you owning it (you wouldn't want to swap out a battery you owned!), and Tesla have started with this concept as well. I look forward to their launch in the UK with the Model S, and am keeping a close eye on them for what they come up with next!
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    Bought my 2.0 TDI S-line in September 2013, pick up my new S3 first week in March.

    Keeping the TDI too for work.
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    The A3 e-tron certainly looks an interesting car. I think the main problem will be the price. The current estimate I have seen puts it at £32-33,000 which puts in £8-9,000 more than a 2.0TDI.
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    Yes, but you have to offset that with the fuel savings to make it a meaningful comparison
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    True but I spend around £2,000 a year on diesel so I'd would have to keep an e-ron for quite a while as I'm sure it would spend a lot of the time with the petrol engine running rather than just running on the batteries. A lot depends on how many local short journeys you do and I don't do that many now. It would take a very long time to get to Germany in 30 mile electric only sections!!

    The RSPB where I volunteer has a couple of electric only vehicles but they are only used to take people the mile or so into the town or to the station. More for show than a practical vehicle in their case.
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    Bear in mind there's also a £5k rebate available.
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    What's the rebate?
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    £5,000 from the government for any plug in car AFAIK.
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