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WIDE PACK - STAGGERED OPTION - 18x8.5 and 18x9.5 (a3)

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    [Jan 12, 2011]
    can anyone confirm these will fit with 25mm adaptors?

    They are merc wheels.

    18x8.5 & 18x9.5 ( PCD 5/112 ; Offset +45)

    so using 25mm adaptors.. or if possible try and find 20mm adaptors
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    25mm adapters will make the offset 20 which with a bit of research i've found to be an ideal offset for filling the arches well, but with the 9.5 wide i would go 20mm adapter so as not to stick out too far and rub. you will need adapters to make it 5/100 to 5/112.
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    yes, thats great thanks =)

    i think i will get 20mm 5/100 to 5/112 adapters all round just to be safe.
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    yeh good call, should be ok, i dont think anyone has had clearance issues with 9.5 wide on rear.
    dont forget pics when its done dude! :)
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    I'm goin for et28 front on 9 x 19 and et25 rear on a 10 x 19. Both using 20mm adapters on my s3. Just had to be careful with tire choice as to keep same rolling diameter with the quattro. Venom have an offer on fk adapters at the mo. 2 sets for 160! Unfortunately for me my wheels are 5 x 120 so having to go for the more expensive h and r ones.
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    Is that offer including bolts?
    I'm currently after a set of 15 and 20mm, but I want spacers that screw to the hub with locating screws and then standard bolts. Dont know whether they are as strong as spacers with bolts that go straight to the hubs though, i dont know what to do. Might opt for the complete set that the TT shop sell.
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    The offers on the adapters by fk mate. They do hubcentric spacers anyway which are cheaper than the adapters anyway. I think anything over 15mm will bolt to the hub then use your normal wheel bolts. I think they come with bolts to fix to hub mate.
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    guys, the OP states it's for an A3 in the title. I'm not totally sure it'll fit.

    a 9.5j' rim will stick out 19mm more than an 8j rim of the same offset (increase is 1.5'' or 38.1mm in rim width, shared over centre line = 19mm)

    So 9.5j at ET20 would be like having an 8j rim at ET01, and that wouldn't fit I'm sure!

    You'd have to have some serious stretch (like a 225 or 215 on the 9.5J) to get it to work, but even then I'm not convinced it'll clear
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    Yeah theyll fit fine with the 20mm adapters,

    Im fitting 18x10j on the rear of my a3 with offset of 35 and they fit fine

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    Yes i agree with Prawn, im not too sure either, the A3 doesnt have flared arches. Do you know what the dimensions of a standard A3 wheeel is?

    And Chapman

    ... even on an S3, thats some serious wheel poke your planning here. In particular the rear. The standard S3 wheel without spacers poke out from the hub by 7.175 cm. Alot of people stick 20 mm spacers on standard wheels which makes the poke 9.175 cm. With the set up you've described above your planning a poke of 12 cm!

    Make doubley sure this works
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    I didn't see it was for an A3. Prawn I see your logic. It's a daring one to go for on an A3 with the smaller arches. But hey if similar has been done before then it can be done. It jut limits tyre choice. Not something I'd want myself.
    Would anyone be able to tell me if spacers that screw to the hub and use standard bolts are weaker than spacers that use wheel bolts going straight through to the hub? Because I think that if the bolts just go into the spacer standard length, all stress is on the spacer and locating screws then, whereas if the bolts go straight through into the hub, stress will be on the bolts and the hubs. Which is the stronger option? Maybe screw located hubcentric with longer bolts. Then it's secured to the hub with both the wheel bolts AND the locating screws.
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    I've checked thoroughly mate. A friend of mines running exactly the same wheels on a mk4. I've also seen that s3kev is running et 27 front and et12 rear on a 9x19. Mine will be et28 front 9x19 front and et 25 10x19 rear. Being a 10j it will protrude 12.7mm more than the 9j. This effectively giving the stance to be prety much identical to s3kev, who from what i gather has no day to day problems and his wheels fit perfectly imo.
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    thats ok then

    Yes from what i last heard of Kevs set up he was running 9" ET 12 rear with no spacers making the poke 10.05 cm
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    If they fit on a mk4 golf theyll fit on an a3 which means definatly an s3
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    Afaik mate hes running custom made adapters of around 40mm i think. As his wheels are the original 5x112 fitment et 52. I'm sure ill be corrected if wrong. But as i said earlier i think they sit perfectly.
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    Hmmm. ET35 is the offset for most of the MK4 golf platform so be really careful! Kev also has an S3 with wider arches.
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    [Jan 13, 2011]
    My mates mk 4 is running 10 x 19 et27 rear with a bit of poke on a 225 35 tyre.
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    ah ok mate, so an adjusted ET of 12mm
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    [Jan 13, 2011]
    Yeah my 10j on the back have an offset of 60 then i used 25mm adapters and all it good :), they would never fit properly with stretched tyres though. They only poke out about 20mm from the arch aswell. All depends what look youe goin for.

    Theres a bloke on edition 38 with the staggered mam mt1's there offset 25 on the rear 9.5j they dont poke that much
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    No they wouldnt poke that much, thats 9.375 cm poke :)
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    Yeah from where the hub meets the wheel, not from arch to edge of wheel.
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    yeah thats right, sorry i should have clarified what i meant by poke, from hub to outside of rim. I Don't have the car body dimensions. You can have as much wheel poke as you like in reality if your car isnt too low
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    [Jan 13, 2011]
    go for 20mm adapters all round.

    This is 8.5x18 on the front and 10x18 on the rear with 225/40/18 front and 265/35/18 rear:
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    whats the ET on those?
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    whats all this poke??? hahhaaha
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    [Jan 13, 2011]
    Sulaiman whats your ET on the front and rear of them porsche wheels really like a few porsche wheel designs but was worried about offsets and just the width of the rears but yours seem to fit nicely is it just 20mm adaptors on yours?
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