1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Which lowering springs?

Discussion in 'A4/A4 cabriolet/S4 forum(B6 chassis)' started by mattyb6, Jun 3, 2014.

  1. mattyb6

    mattyb6 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2012
    Messages:
    822
    Likes Received:
    53
    Long story short as I went to replace a top mount today and heighten the from coil overs
    The coil overs are seized solid!!

    So I've decided I'm going to go the springs and shocks route with b5 perches

    But what lowering springs are people running?
    And what updated shocks if you are running them?
    I know quattrojames had the eiback kit I believe

    Should I upgrade the shocks?
    I've renewed all the arms, drop links and top mounts on the front.
    I will be doing the rear with a rs4 RARB when I do the springs
     
  2. Google AdSense Guest Advertisement



    to hide this advert.
  3. Mike.M

    Mike.M Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2003
    Messages:
    2,253
    Likes Received:
    154
    Eibach or Weitec springs for me. The Weitec spring and damper kit is very good and can highly recommend if you change the lot.
     
  4. mattyb6

    mattyb6 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2012
    Messages:
    822
    Likes Received:
    53
    Cheers mike
    What sort of price range we looking at here?

    Any recommended dealers?
     
  5. Mike.M

    Mike.M Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2003
    Messages:
    2,253
    Likes Received:
    154
  6. mattyb6

    mattyb6 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2012
    Messages:
    822
    Likes Received:
    53
    Ah right, il have a look.

    If not il price from DPM, if the springs and dampers are too expensive il just get springs.
     
  7. Gazwould

    Gazwould Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2011
    Messages:
    1,876
    Likes Received:
    423
    It's a common money cost cutting mistake not to get new dampers.
     
  8. DPM

    DPM Site Sponsor
    Site Sponsor

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2006
    Messages:
    4,584
    Likes Received:
    100
    Just to note, Weitec has now been discontinued and replaced with ST by KW.

    Damian @ DPM Performance
     
  9. mattyb6

    mattyb6 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2012
    Messages:
    822
    Likes Received:
    53
    I know that, but would standard dampers and lowered springs be still okay?

    I would replace the shocks anyway but depends on price wether is standard with springs or unrated springs and dampers
     
  10. barkclark

    barkclark Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2013
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    125
    I read somewhere that eibach springs are the same (or very similar) compression rate to standard sport springs. So they should work fine with OEM dampers. Anyone with further knowledge can confirm or correct this haha
     
  11. mattyb6

    mattyb6 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2012
    Messages:
    822
    Likes Received:
    53
    I know, the lad who has the white avant thread going used eiback springs on OEM dampers which what got me thinking
     
  12. barkclark

    barkclark Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2013
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    125
    I've been planning eibach pro's for a while. Just needing to get new dampers and other bits and pieces before I get them fitted!
     
  13. mattyb6

    mattyb6 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2012
    Messages:
    822
    Likes Received:
    53
    So you going OEM dampers or up rated?
     
  14. barkclark

    barkclark Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2013
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    125
    I'll stick with OEM mate
     
  15. Gazwould

    Gazwould Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2011
    Messages:
    1,876
    Likes Received:
    423
    What model is your car ?
     
  16. mattyb6

    mattyb6 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2012
    Messages:
    822
    Likes Received:
    53
    It's an 03 1.9tdi saloon FWD
     
  17. Gazwould

    Gazwould Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2011
    Messages:
    1,876
    Likes Received:
    423
    Sport, SE etc ?
     
  18. mattyb6

    mattyb6 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2012
    Messages:
    822
    Likes Received:
    53
    SE mate
     
  19. barkclark

    barkclark Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2013
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    125
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm under the impression that only OEM sport dampers will work with eibachs. Not OEM SE dampers.
     
  20. Gazwould

    Gazwould Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2011
    Messages:
    1,876
    Likes Received:
    423
    With Eibach Pro or similar go with OE Sport shocks such as Bilstein B4 or Sachs Super Touring.

    Don't use standard OE SE shocks.
     
  21. ruffrida

    ruffrida Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2012
    Messages:
    1,910
    Likes Received:
    305
    Yeh sports dampers and Eibach springs you will be sound !!
     
  22. Google AdSense Guest Advertisement



    to hide this advert.
  23. mattyb6

    mattyb6 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2012
    Messages:
    822
    Likes Received:
    53
    So the likes of ECP will sell these, as s-line models will have these as standard
     
  24. jbcalvin

    jbcalvin Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2011
    Messages:
    663
    Likes Received:
    17
    Following on from my night and day post, I really cannot recommend the Bilstein/Eibach combo I fitted last week highly enough, and when an Audi mastertech with 20+ years experience says the difference is night and day from my OEM Sport set up, that's good enough for me....

    Not cheap, but you pays your money etc etc.....

    Cheapest I could find was from Awesome GTI......
     
  25. peteh

    peteh Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2014
    Messages:
    46
    Likes Received:
    5
    Don't happen to know the part numer do you, as there's loads of um!! Lol

    also some pics with um fitted? Really wanting this kit myself, but so confused at the mo as there's so many options about at the mo....
     
  26. S4_dan

    S4_dan Fire up the Quattro!
    VCDS Map User

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2006
    Messages:
    2,247
    Likes Received:
    130
    QuattroJames ran eibach pro sport springs on OE SE shocks and reported no problems at all. So it is do-able.
     
  27. barkclark

    barkclark Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2013
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    125
    Ah I knew someone would be along to correct me! Good news for SE owners!
     
  28. Gazwould

    Gazwould Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2011
    Messages:
    1,876
    Likes Received:
    423
    Do -able , but I seriously wouldn't recommend it.

    Eibach Pro kit spring will be more uprated than a OE Sport or S line spring.

    Sport or S line springs are more uprated than SE springs.

    Eibach spring really should have the stronger Sport dampers to control it.
     
  29. quattrojames

    quattrojames Moderator
    Staff Member Moderator Audi A6

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2008
    Messages:
    13,995
    Likes Received:
    522
    I realise it's no ideal, but I can genuinely say I did it for 18 months + with no ill effects at all.
     
  30. jbcalvin

    jbcalvin Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2011
    Messages:
    663
    Likes Received:
    17
    Call the guys at Awesome and let them speak to Bilstein, it took over a week for mine to arrive as Bilstein had produced a superceeded part number..... I have no idea what mine is......
     
  31. mattyb6

    mattyb6 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2012
    Messages:
    822
    Likes Received:
    53
    Been offered some eibach springs for £100 of a forum member, but there from a Quattro so don't know if they'll fit or if any has done Quattro springs on a fwd and what the differences, if any, are?

    I'm going to attempt again, to free my coilover collars on Saturday if not, il be getting some eibach sprins with s-line springs as I won't be able to afford the full kit with dampers.

    If I can free them il be laughing as the car won't be scraping anymore and by the time I get a rs4 rarb on be even better.

    I'm keep you's updated anyway
     
  32. Jimmy TDI

    Jimmy TDI Pro Tinkerer

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2013
    Messages:
    1,101
    Likes Received:
    215
    Soak them with plusgas (or wd40 if you can't get any) a couple of times a day for a few days, then take a hammer and chisel to them mate.
     
  33. Jimmy TDI

    Jimmy TDI Pro Tinkerer

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2013
    Messages:
    1,101
    Likes Received:
    215
    Also try tapping them both ways to loosen them up
     
  34. barkclark

    barkclark Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2013
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    125
    Lucky sod!
     
    mattyb6 likes this.
  35. jbcalvin

    jbcalvin Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2011
    Messages:
    663
    Likes Received:
    17
    As far as I am aware, quattro springs will not work with a FWD, more weight at the back with diffs etc so the spring rates will be completely different.....
     
  36. S4_dan

    S4_dan Fire up the Quattro!
    VCDS Map User

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2006
    Messages:
    2,247
    Likes Received:
    130
    I've got some eibach pro sport kit springs for sale in the classifieds section.

    Dan
     
  37. rbailey88

    rbailey88 Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2012
    Messages:
    132
    Likes Received:
    29
    Ive got a set of dampers off my 1.8t 190 s-line in the garage if any use? 30 quid if you want them mate
     
  38. mattyb6

    mattyb6 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2012
    Messages:
    822
    Likes Received:
    53
    Thanks for the offer mate but no thanks

    The engineers at work are going to sort my coilovers out for free. :)

    So can't complain really, then il see what situation I'm in after that
     
  39. Duck

    Duck Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2009
    Messages:
    46
    Likes Received:
    7
    Who is it selling the Eibach Quattro springs?
     
  40. mattyb6

    mattyb6 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2012
    Messages:
    822
    Likes Received:
    53
    S4 dan mate
     

Share This Page