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what else is needed when fitting a hybrid

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by Mpathe, Apr 16, 2010.

  1. Mpathe

    Mpathe 1st gear

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    now ive sold my corsa turbo im going to chuck the money at the s3, my plans are to fit cr hybrid turbo and some uprated conrods (from badger hopefully)
    i just want to know what else i need to buy for it while im working on it and how do i go about mapping it. thanks mike
     
  2. Andrew@A.L.D

    Andrew@A.L.D May add NOS to 600+bhp?

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    performance valves may be a good idea, i fitted some to my engine for safety.

    Depends on how much you want to spend
     
  3. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Bill (Badger5) will be able to map it up for you as well.

    I agree with valves, but then again, not a necessity.

    You WILL need an FMIC. You WILL need a 3" downpipe and sports/decat. You WILL need a silicone TIP (As the OEM ones collapse under high intake load).


    EDIT: Just saw you have downpipe and cat. D'oh!
     
  4. Mpathe

    Mpathe 1st gear

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    does bill "badger" have a website? and do i need bigger injectors or are the std ones ok? thanks mike
     
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    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    www.badger5.co.uk

    Not sure about the standard injectors as yet, waiting to see the outcome of a mapping session on another CR Stage 4 hybrid conversion.
     
  6. <tuffty/>

    <tuffty/> Badger 5 Edition...Its all about the flow...
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    I must get around to redoing the site :)

    Until Bill gets to map Speedy Steves he won't know if the hybrid will need the bigger injectors... he has 440's lined up just in case...

    <tuffty/>
     
  7. Andrew@A.L.D

    Andrew@A.L.D May add NOS to 600+bhp?

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    Do you think the stage 4 will hit the magic 300+ on the 1.8?
     
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    <tuffty/> Badger 5 Edition...Its all about the flow...
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    If anything is going to get close it will be this turbo :)

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  9. Mpathe

    Mpathe 1st gear

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    anybody know a rough price for mapping the s3 when the hybrid has been fitted?
     
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    think its 550 plus vat
     
  11. Andrew@A.L.D

    Andrew@A.L.D May add NOS to 600+bhp?

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    I've been quoted £450 + vat for mapping my 2.1
     
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    Mpathe 1st gear

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    who gave you that quote andrew?

    mike
     
  13. Andrew@A.L.D

    Andrew@A.L.D May add NOS to 600+bhp?

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    i spoke with autograph at burnley, you really do need to upgrade to a bigger inlet manifold to get the best out of a hybrid otherwise you will only be getting 15/20bhp more than a stage 2 s3, a lot of money for a few ponnies.
     
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    Andrew@A.L.D May add NOS to 600+bhp?

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    Nothing wrong with the standard inlet maybe a bigger T/B
     
  16. Mpathe

    Mpathe 1st gear

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    they either don't have any experiance with 1.8t or were trying to sell you something as afew on here have made the 300 mark without upgrading the inlet manifold
     
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    sorry had 2 laugh, baz at autograph knows more about the 1.8t than badger and all the rest of us put together
     
  18. Mpathe

    Mpathe 1st gear

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    so how has welly made 340bhp on the std inlet manifold?
     
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    <tuffty/> Badger 5 Edition...Its all about the flow...
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    Agreed... Welly is running a std mani and throttle body... its even small port despite having a large port head... he is making a reliable 340ish bhp on 22psi... thats a little more than 15/20bhp over a std K04...

    Not saying a larger inlet wouldn't have an affect... couldn't tell you what it would be but the curve would change as would torque delivery, but to say you need one to get more than 20bhp out of a K04 hybrid is simply wrong... and we can actual prove it :)

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  20. aragorn

    aragorn "Stick a V8 in it!"
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    Tuffty, you yourself are running the stock inlet and have seen 370+ out of it have you not?
     
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    <tuffty/> Badger 5 Edition...Its all about the flow...
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    That I have mate... :thumbsup:

    Although to be fair I might benefit from a SEM lol ;P

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    superkarl MAN OF STEEL

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    is it not possible to bore the manifold out a little? although im sure you hybrid/BT boys would have tried already
     
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    <tuffty/> Badger 5 Edition...Its all about the flow...
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    I opened mine up to accommodate the R32 TB I now have but got the 383bhp on a std mani, small port head and 60mm TB...

    There isn't much you can remove tbh but its the larger plenum you benefit from... cylinder 4 gets left out a bit on the std mani when shifting lots of air... SEM is the best flowing mani out there IIRC but its 800 odd quid so not currently high on my list :(

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  24. badger5

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    lol - whoever Baz is.. I dont know him.. I dont think
    You dont know me.. so how do you know what I do or dont know.. LMAO.. Irrelvant that it is..

    Anyhows....
    You dont need an inlet manifold for k04 hybrid... nothing stopping you from adding one of course, its your money... but the gains vs outlay wont be favourable. SEM is a very good inlet mani..

    Exhaust manifold is a must have before intake on a k04 hybrid.. but I am sure your mate knows this

    Good luck..
     
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  25. Welly

    Welly VX220 SC Driver :)

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    Yawn.

    I'm off for a snooze.

    Then when I wake I'll go and buy and SEM to claim my extra horses.... :lmfao:
     

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