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Westle and S3baby's late night mechanics. (Badger 5 TIP)

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    Well the late night mechanics is becoming a bit of a weekly thing now. S3baby gets to mine we get the tunes on, grab a beer or coffee, and try to get through some jobs on the long list of things to do.

    S3baby purchased one of Bills 3" Turbo Intake Pipes last weekend when we were down there for a rolling road day so we thought we'd get that on tonight.

    Firstly got the car in the garage:

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    For those of you that haven't seen a Badger 5 3" TIP where have you been!? IT looks like this:

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    As you can see compared to the silicone jobbie we took off there is going to be a lot less restriction:

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    Anyway got cracking with the tools and started to put the new TIP together:

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    We ran into a few issues with the way the catch can was plumbed in but we managed to improvise round it and it ended up like this:

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    A quick wash of the hands and a coffee we then grabbed the laptop and VCDS cable and hit the road to test.

    Last weekend S3baby hit around 199g/s on bills rollers so anything higher was going to be bonus air flow. I'll attach some of the logs below when I get to work tomorrow but it now peaks at 214g/s at 18psi!!!

    Very impressive gains of air flow i'd say.
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    Lookin good mate Ive been waiting 2 weeks for mine because of fitment issues Apy non Esp I get mine tomorrow its a shame your so far away from me otherwise I would be callin on the late night mechanics club lol...... Get more done on a night when there is no f@@ker bothering ya
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    Once again I admire your late night tinkering! Must be great fun havin two awesome cars in the garage doin the work.
    I need an evening buddy :(
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    Yeah it's all good. Takes me back to when I had my Renault 5 GT turbo and me and a mate would be modding it into the night ;)
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    I've been with the A4 diesels boys. So I had no idea what it looked like.
    Allways assume you was talking about something else. :)

    Thanks for the pic. Made it all clear.

    Thats a nice size garage you got there you lucky man.

    Can't be some late night mechanics.
    Friday nights use to be our play night at my mates breaker yard.
    Fitting V12s in to BMW E21s was fun or welding up my 3 series cause the rear axel thought it be a good idea to ripe it sell out of the floor.
    I miss that place. lol
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    My e46 m3 did exactly the same, very bad designs
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    awesome guys

    199g/s ~ 248bhp
    214g/s ~ 267bhp

    I dont remember what yours did on my dyno last week off hand tho to compare?
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    Here's the figures:

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    Nice numbers, great work guys :thumbsup:
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    There's a slight power loss at 6000 revs that was consistantly appearing. You can see the drop in air flow on the figures above too.
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    Do you mean in the second 'Torque' column, or am I missing something? :confused:
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    You have timing pull from 6k up and no doubt EGT's coming into play too mate... log block 031 with 002 and 020 and see what the fuel is doing... EGT protection will kill turbine energy and power...

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    Wouldn't this be expected when using the standard exhaust manifold/downpipe and SMIC's?
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    S3baby's car has standard DP exhaust mani but he does have a FMIC.
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    Have you got similar logs from S3Baby's? Would be good to see the difference in the data.

    I can feel a FMIC coming on....
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    We only fitted the TIP to S3baby's car as I didn't buy one as my turbo needs a refurb so all the figures above are from his car which does have a FMIC.
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    Another B5 TIP success story... :thumbsup:
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    Nice work, again! !!
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    chaps... remember that little blue ibiza that I am building?
    youtube video uploading now..

    new #1 on my top 10 dyno figures from it.. :)
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    What do we search bill?
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    Already heard, what a result!! Nice going dude. :thumbsup:
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    +1 !!!

    Out of interest what is the top 10?
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    He's not uploaded it yet I'm stalking him on YouTube lol
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    Get off my thread you bunch of hijackers!

    Bill was that the Ibiza that was wheeled out of your workshop last weekend for our dyno runs?
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    90% up to date
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    thats the one yes
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    I could be in for a top ten hit on a standard k04 :jump:

    Ahem, Really good results though Westle and S3baby Stellar effort :ninja:
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    Yep that'll be it ;)
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    you would be surprised how much chuffs out of the oil breather on "your" engine if only you could see it in the same circumstances..
    tucked out of tight rebreathing its own fume into the tip, you are none the wiser.
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    A bit mental for FWD...how can the power get down?
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    Gear controlled boost from an Apexi...

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    like tuffty says.. its got an apexi avc-r fitted which has the ability to do gear related boost
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    cool, torque steer must be terrible though?
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    Damn man this reminds me of the days of my S3, poxy APY engine made it very difficult to use the uprated tip, but forge supplied me with a load of silicone hoses & jubes, I made it fit, damn this was so many years ago now am I really 37 lol, but it worked, so result, but this one is some fat airflow, looks good to me.
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    nope.
    my ibiza runs >530kw power at the wheels.. it does'nt torque steer - myth, or a vauxhall thing - lol
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    Def a vxr thing lol, my mates remapped vxr is dangerous, 1 bump/skip on full song throws it into oncoming traffic
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