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Vcds v vcds registered

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    [Jun 30, 2012]
    Hi can anyone tell me what the difference is between the vcds cable at £250 and a Ross tech registered cable for about £50 !
    I want to set the diesel pump timing on my 2002 A6 2.5 tdi I have a cable and have downloaded vcds lite but I don't have that function available will I be able to set the timing with a registered cable or do I need the £250 one
    Thanks for the help
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    [Jul 14, 2012]
    get vcds lite and regester it, nearly the same as the pro version for most people the regestered version is enough
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    unless you have a newer car then the cheapo cable is no good!
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    [Jul 17, 2012]
    Sorry but thats tbh very wrong, please check the chart on this page to know the distinct & worthy differences:

    Ross-Tech: VCDS: Function Table

    Function Chart / Feature
    Comparison






    [TD="width: 168"]
    VAS-505x $5-15k
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"]"New" VAS Function Number[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]VCDS-Lite Shareware
    $0.00 - $99[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]VCDS Full
    Version

    $249 - $699[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]Function Number / Name[/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"][/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"][/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"][/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]00 Auto-Scan[/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"]1001.01[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Registered Version Only[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]01 Control Unit
    Info
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"] [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]02 Read Fault
    Codes
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"]004.01[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Limited unless Registered [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]03 Output
    Tests
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"]005[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Registered Version Only[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"] Selective Output Tests[/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"]005[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]No[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]04 Basic
    Settings
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"]006[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Registered Version Only[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]05 Clear Fault
    Codes
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"]004.10[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]06 Close
    Controller
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"]022[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]07 Code
    Module
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"]007 (Service 1A)
    008 (Service 22)
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"] Code Slave Modules[/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"]007 (Service 1A)
    008 (Service 22)
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]No[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]08 Measuring
    Blocks
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"]010.02 (KW1281)
    011
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Limited unless Registered[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]09 Single
    Reading
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"]010.01[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]10
    Adaptation
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"]012
    014 (long)
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Limited unless registered[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]11 Login

    (called Coding II

    under KWP-2000)
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"]015.01[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]15 View
    Readiness
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"]020.01[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]16 Security
    Access
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"]015.02[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Registered Version Only[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]18 Supported Codes[/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"] [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]No[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]33 Generic
    OBD-II
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"] [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]No[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]Freeze-Frame Data[/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"] [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Registered Version Only[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]Dual K-Line Support[/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"] [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]7-Digit PINs (VAS only)[/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"]020.07[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Registered Version Only[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    Code Database current through MY 2012
    [TD="width: 112"] [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Current through ~2006[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]Diagnostics via direct CAN connection [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"] [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]No[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes
    (with CAN
    Interface)
    [/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]Transport Mode (VAS Only) [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"]1001.03 (on)
    1001.04 (off)
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]No[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes
    (with HEX+CAN Interface)
    [/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]Advanced Measuring Values[/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"] [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]No[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]Guided Readiness Scripts[/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"] [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]No[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]Support for Dual ECUs[/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"] [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]No[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]Data Logging
    (Factory
    tools cannot do this!)
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"] [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Limited unless registered[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]HighSpeed DataLogging
    (Factory tools cannot do this!)[/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"] [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]No[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes
    (with HEX
    Interface)
    [/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]Real-Time Graphs
    (Factory tools cannot do this!)[/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"][/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Limited unless registered[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]Real-Time Gauges
    (Factory tools cannot do this!)[/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"][/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Limited unless registered[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]Graphic TDI Timing Checker
    (Factory tools cannot do this!)[/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"] [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Registered Version Only[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]Control Module Finder
    (Factory tools cannot do this!)[/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"] [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]Automated Service Reset
    (SRI)
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"] [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]No[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]Yes[/TD]



    [TD="width: 168"]GeKo/Fazit on-line access to Immobilizer Codes and Component
    Protection
    [/TD]

    [TD="width: 112"] [/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]No[/TD]

    [TD="width: 200, align: center"]No[/TD]
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    [Jul 18, 2012]
    id say 23 out of 34 functions is "nearly" the same to me

    and you forgot to also quote the second half of my sentence were i said "for most people the regestered version is enough"

    for me registered is good enough as i have a 1999 a4, newer cars obviously need pro, i know theres some things there that are good to have but personally i dont have the need for them

    oh and as a bonus my lite version does auto scan, but cant clear codes from there, but can from the module so for me that works
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    [Jul 18, 2012]
    I didnt forget at all & yes to "you" they appear the same, but not to many others imho, I'm just showing that the shareware type is not even on the same page as the pro version, dont confuse the 2 products.

    But yes for a B5 then the cheaper product is good enough, I wont disagree there.
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    [Jul 18, 2012]
    yes there totally diffrent and the pro is a pukka piece of software, but for many the regestered is enough, and as far as i can see, for what i use it for, there nearly the same so i wouldnt benifet from upgrading
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    I dont think anyone's disputing the suitability of the product for each individual, just your statement isnt correct, just showing others there is a vast difference in the 2, what you use is your choice & I'm not trying to convince you to upgrade, just making sure people are aware there are fair number of differences.
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    [Jul 21, 2012]
    Shareware:

    - Cannot do Auto-Scan
    - Won't display Text for all Fault Codes
    - No Basic Settings (so no TBA, Xenon levelling, etc or checking timing on TDI's)
    - No Adaptation Saving (so no changing of locking/lights/horn behavior)
    - No Output Tests
    - No Tech Support from Ross-Tech

    Limitations of 311 and 409 even if Fully Registered:

    - No Generic OBD-II
    - Won't work with CAN-Bus vehicles
    - Fewer fault code definitions and label files
    - No built-in Activation (you'll be limited to a single PC)
    - No Advanced Measuring Blocks
    - No Direct Access for Adaptation and Basic Setting
    - No Acceleration Measurement
    - No Automated Service Reset
    - No Session Log Capabilities
    - No Support for Guided Readiness Scripts
    - No Optical Bus Diagnosis
    - No Battery/Gateway Coding/Long Coding Assistant
    - No (Automatic) Updates
    - No ECU Mileage Reading (EDC15/16)

    ...and some more minor things as well. ;)
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    [Jul 21, 2012]
    I seem to be able to auto scan and get advanced mess blocks? Im on lite.
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