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Urgent help needed ! Car wont start !

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    my car was ok,until this morning,it started then cut off.(thought nothing of it)..then i started it took it out the drive and parked it outside the house,5 hours later i started it,it started then cut out.......hooked up vcds got 2 faults.

    cleared them,then car started and i drove it 2 miles without any issues,soon as i parked it outside the house...it wont start or clear the faults,well 1 fault clears but then does come back once i read faults again.........any ideas?

    Glow plug light is flashing on dash

    faults : 16988-Internal Control Module RAM Error

    17084- MIL Request from Transm. Control Module ...


    A3 2.0 TDI (BKD)

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    16988-Internal Control Module RAM Error < duff ecu or wiring fault
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    duff ecu just like that? wiring fault? where do i start? sometimes it will start and run
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    VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3
    Data version: 20120401
    Monday,28,May,2012,10:48:32:07342
    Chassis Type: 1K0
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 56 62 72 7D
    VIN: WAUZZZ8P************* Mileage: 160800km/99916miles
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 1010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl
    Part No SW: 03G 906 016 FF HW: 028 101 190 5
    Component: R4 2,0L EDC 0000SG 6337
    Revision: 12345678 Serial number: AUX7Z0E1FNG04N
    Coding: 0000072
    Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
    VCID: 6CDCD1CB4F90D69
    1 Fault Found:
    16988 - Internal Control Module
    P0604 - 000 - RAM Error - MIL ON
    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 0 /min
    Torque: 84.0 Nm
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Load: 0.0 %
    Voltage: 11.70 V
    Bin. Bits: 00000100
    Hex Value: 0xFF00
    Bin. Bits: 00100000
    Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
    Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
    Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0104
    Coding: 0023174
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 3A7027937544B89
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 H HW: 8P0 820 043 H
    Component: KlimavollautomatH14 0180
    Revision: 157642 Serial number: 8P0820043H
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 316200BFA8327B1
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8P0-907-279-23-H.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 C HW: 8P0 907 279 C
    Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 0301
    Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000001569068
    Coding: A5884F02B214100000160000160000000000FE0F5C
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 08192
    VCID: 3D7A2C8F646A8F1
    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P2 955 119 B Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
    Component: Wischer AU350 H01 0130
    Coding: 00062736
    Shop #: WSC 06314
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8P0-959-655-94.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 C HW: 8P0 959 655 C
    Component: Airbag 9.41 H10 3230
    Revision: 91H10323 Serial number: 003620028UHP
    Coding: 0034622
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 42805F731D94F09
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8P0-953-549-F.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 F HW: 8P0 953 549 F
    Component: J0527 H36 0070
    Coding: 0000012
    Shop #: WSC 00047 210 91020
    VCID: 4182507F1892EB1
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY7.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 A HW: 8P0 920 981 A
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H73 0300
    Revision: D04 Serial number: 2241ED04006344
    Coding: 0004443
    Shop #: WSC 00047 210 62144
    VCID: 366833A3415C5C9
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 D HW: 1K0 907 951
    Component: Gateway H08 0100
    Revision: 08 Serial number: 2500105208043E
    Coding: 3D3F0B42072103
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 2854EDDB9BE83A9
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
    Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 A HW: 8P0 920 981 A
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H73 0300
    Revision: D04 Serial number: AUX7Z0E1FNG04N
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 366833A3415C5C9
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN1.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 801 E
    Component: Tuersteuerger. H10 0040
    Coding: 0000048
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 3D7A2C8F646A8F1
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
    Part No: 1K2 909 144 H
    Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.7 1502
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 316200BFA8327B1
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 433 C
    Component: KSG H04 0050
    Coding: 188000186D08850D489FC63000
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 3C7C218B7F70869
    Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
    Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H02 1301
    Part No: 1K0 907 719 B
    Component: Neigungssensor 004 0003
    Part No: 8P0 951 177
    Component: Innenraumueberw.H03 0020
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P4 035 382 HW: 8P4 035 382
    Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH03 0180
    Revision: 00002 Serial number: 10000001230153
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: F1E240BFE8B2BB1
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 8P0-959-802-MIN1.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 802 E
    Component: Tuersteuerger. H10 0040
    Coding: 0000048
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 3E782B83696C949
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio Labels: 8P0-035-1xx-56.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 035 186 C HW: 8P0 035 186 C
    Component: concert II EU H51 0100
    Revision: 01S Serial number: AUZ2Z3E2059450
    Coding: 0001001
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 32600FB3AD34409
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 8P4-959-801.lbl
    Part No: 8P4 959 801 B
    Component: Tuer-SG 010 0020
    Coding: 0000144
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 3E782B83696C949
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 8P4-959-802.lbl
    Part No: 8P4 959 802 B
    Component: Tuer-SG 010 0020
    Coding: 0000144
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 3F8656876E669D1
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 7D: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E HW: 1K0 963 235 E
    Component: PTC-Element 0404
    Revision: 00800000 Serial number:
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 2D5A1CCFB40A1F1
    No fault code found.
    End ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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    just an update went back inside and came back to the car within 1-2 minutes turned on ignition,glow light went off as normal......car started ! what the hell is it ? i then knocked it off tried to restart glow light on constantly...and car not starting,however if i remove key from ignition......even tried locking/unlocking via remote then it still dont start but glow light starts flashing again............basically sometimes glow lighs on constantly and sometimes flasing........car starts when it wants to.

    Ive took the pipe off the intake manifold flap and that is in the open position (i think that how it should be?) but cant move the flap manually by hand,its solid........but i aint forced it..............that ok or should i be able move it manually?


    Now and again when i turn on the ignition the fan kicks in aswell
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    come on guys........can some one shed sum light here....is it the ecu or wiring?....which wires should i check?
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    High pressure fuel pump failure ? **** in fuel pump /canister where do you fill up with diesel?
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    how do i check that..........vcds wont communicate to ecu....says 'no response from controller' IT WILL CUMMUNICATE VIA ABS BRAKES AND SAYS ENGINE CONTROL MODULE NO SIGNAL/CUMMNICATION.........funny thing is i filled up £20 at tesco 1 night before..........where do i go from here what should ni check....fuses/engine bay etc,etc?
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    ill go on ****ed ECU or a wireing fault
    check ECU for water damage
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    cant see no damaged wiring,had ecu out but no signs of water damage at all,drove ok 1 night before on a 40 mile run,cant beleive it!
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    Where in UK are you? Does sound like ECU failure reading through it all.
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    STOKE ON TRENT STAFFORDSHIRE...........IL SEND YOU MY TEL-NUMBER NOW IF YOU CAN HELP....CHECK PRIVATE MESSAGE,THANKS.
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    glow plug light constantly stays on weather ecu is connected or not (when ignition is turned on obviously)
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    managed to do a scan today (car still does Not start) glow plug light still showing

    Wednesday,30,May,2012,16:32:03:07342
    VCDS Version: Release 11.11.3
    Data version: 20120401

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Chassis Type: 1K0
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 56 62 72 7D
    VIN: WAUZZZ8p********** Mileage: 160800km/99916miles
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine
    Cannot be reached
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
    Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
    Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0104
    Coding: 0023174
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 3A7027937544B89
    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module
    004 - No Signal/Communication
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 H HW: 8P0 820 043 H
    Component: KlimavollautomatH14 0180
    Revision: 157642 Serial number: 8P0820043H
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 316200BFA8327B1
    1 Fault Found:
    01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
    008 - Implausible Signal
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01101000
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 85
    Mileage: 160806 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2012.05.28
    Time: 03:14:12
    Freeze Frame:

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8P0-907-279-23-H.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 C HW: 8P0 907 279 C
    Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 0301
    Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000001569068
    Coding: A5884F02B214100000160000160000000000FE0F5C
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 08192
    VCID: 3D7A2C8F646A8F1
    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P2 955 119 B Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
    Component: Wischer AU350 H01 0130
    Coding: 00062736
    Shop #: WSC 06314
    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module
    004 - No Signal/Communication
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8P0-959-655-94.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 C HW: 8P0 959 655 C
    Component: Airbag 9.41 H10 3230
    Revision: 91H10323 Serial number: 003620028UHP
    Coding: 0034622
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 42805F731D94F09
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8P0-953-549-F.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 F HW: 8P0 953 549 F
    Component: J0527 H36 0070
    Coding: 0000012
    Shop #: WSC 00047 210 91020
    VCID: 4182507F1892EB1
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY7.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 A HW: 8P0 920 981 A
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H73 0300
    Revision: D04 Serial number: 2241ED04006344
    Coding: 0004443
    Shop #: WSC 00047 210 62144
    VCID: 366833A3415C5C9
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 D HW: 1K0 907 951
    Component: Gateway H08 0100
    Revision: 08 Serial number: 2500105208043E
    Coding: 3D3F0B42072103
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 2854EDDB9BE83A9
    2 Faults Found:
    00470 - Combination comfort Databus in Single Wire
    011 - Open Circuit
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01101011
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 254
    Reset counter: 85
    Mileage: 160802 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2012.05.28
    Time: 00:09:43

    01314 - Engine Control Module
    004 - No Signal/Communication
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100100
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 33
    Reset counter: 85
    Mileage: 160805 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2012.05.28
    Time: 12:54:56

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
    Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 A HW: 8P0 920 981 A
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H73 0300
    Revision: D04 Serial number: AUX7Z0E1FNG04N
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 366833A3415C5C9
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN1.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 801 E
    Component: Tuersteuerger. H10 0040
    Coding: 0000048
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 3D7A2C8F646A8F1
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
    Part No: 1K2 909 144 H
    Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.7 1502
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 316200BFA8327B1
    4 Faults Found:
    00750 - Warning Lamp
    013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 800 km
    Temperature: 20.0°C
    Voltage: 12.30 V
    Voltage: 12.10 V

    01314 - Engine Control Module
    004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 800 km
    Temperature: 18.0°C
    Voltage: 12.30 V
    Voltage: 12.10 V
    00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
    002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Mileage: 800 km
    Temperature: 20.0°C
    Voltage: 9.50 V
    Voltage: 9.30 V
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
    000 - -
    Freeze Frame:

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 433 C
    Component: KSG H04 0050
    Coding: 188000186D08850D489FC63000
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 3C7C218B7F70869
    Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
    Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H02 1301
    Part No: 1K0 907 719 B
    Component: Neigungssensor 004 0003
    Part No: 8P0 951 177
    Component: Innenraumueberw.H03 0020
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P4 035 382 HW: 8P4 035 382
    Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH03 0180
    Revision: 00002 Serial number: 10000001230153
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: F1E240BFE8B2BB1
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 8P0-959-802-MIN1.lbl
    Part No: 8P0 959 802 E
    Component: Tuersteuerger. H10 0040
    Coding: 0000048
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 3E782B83696C949
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio Labels: 8P0-035-1xx-56.lbl
    Part No SW: 8P0 035 186 C HW: 8P0 035 186 C
    Component: concert II EU H51 0100
    Revision: 01S Serial number: AUZ2Z3E2059450
    Coding: 0001001
    Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
    VCID: 32600FB3AD34409
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 8P4-959-801.lbl
    Part No: 8P4 959 801 B
    Component: Tuer-SG 010 0020
    Coding: 0000144
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 3E782B83696C949
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 8P4-959-802.lbl
    Part No: 8P4 959 802 B
    Component: Tuer-SG 010 0020
    Coding: 0000144
    Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
    VCID: 3F8656876E669D1
    No fault code found.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 7D: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
    Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E HW: 1K0 963 235 E
    Component: PTC-Element 0404
    Revision: 00800000 Serial number:
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 2D5A1CCFB40A1F1
    No fault code found.
    End ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    Last edited: May 30, 2012
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    just an update and a thankyou to all who helped with solutions ........... well vagtronics in stoke finally sorted it out ! problem was the ecu,got a 2nd hand/used unit......then vagtronics coded it and car is up and running sweet again!
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2012
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    did they say what might have caused this?
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