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Discussion in 'A4/S4 forum(B5 Chassis)' started by ALPINE, Oct 15, 2009.

  1. ALPINE
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    ALPINE Yes its diesel, now cry u lost

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    Trying to find my old thread of scooby vs Audi and cant find it. For those that remember me (as im sure theres newbes) this was my old Audi for a refresher...
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    Anyways i aint been about for ages as i been a busy bee, and for those few people on here that are still interested i thought i would come back with an update.
    After the influence of your very own byzan (a good mate of mine) i decided im going to up the power of my scoob again!

    SPEC:
    New hybrid Turbo (ported and highly polished)
    Hybrid Headers (ported and highly polished)
    Hybrid up-pipe (ported and highly polished)
    HKS 3.5" de-cat (de-seamed, ported heat wrapped and polished)
    JDM forged bottom end (pistons, rods)
    3.5 H&s exhuast system
    Steel gaskits all round,
    Hybrid Throttle body, (de-seemed, ported and highly polished)
    Pcv valve delete
    Idol control valve (highly polished)
    Hybrid deep core FMIC (de-seamed and polished)
    550cc injectors
    Apexi custom mapped ECU
    Walbro fuel pump
    Twin plate Exedy organic race clutch
    Uprated MAF
    Apexi air filter
    Type RA boost solaniod
    Air-con Removed
    Oil catch tank fitted
    Toad alarm fitted
    Tracker fitted
    Evo rear spoiler
    Re-ferbed gold wheels to white
    JDM front splitter
    6000k HIDs
    High Temp (as in color) White LED sides
    Plasma digital boost gauge
    Plasma digital oil pressure gauge
    Momo Lmd edition steering wheel
    Custom Apexi turbo timer/af/o2/volt meter built into dash
    New Crystal head lights
    New crystal side light clusters
    New higher amp battery (cant remember ampages now)

    TO COME
    light weight Pullys (roger clark or hybrid)
    Carbon fiber bonnet
    Re-skinned roof (sunroof delete) black vinyl wrapped.
    Tints
    Shares in Vpower to run the mofo!

    currently 342BHP/323lb atw!! its a animal!

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    I must admit... i DO MISS THE AUDI purley coz of the build quality and comfort, but pleasure from the scoob over rides that all day long!!

    Once again thanks to mark (byzan) for ya help and support over my lastest mission!!

    How is all the old skool ASN crew n e ways?? we all good? sienas car a V8 yet?
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    I can't wait to go out in her now, she was fast before !!!
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    ALPINE Yes its diesel, now cry u lost

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    i have not gained a massive amout of power figure wise, but the torque is loads more! love it!! cant wait to come down in it mate! :)
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    Have fun.
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    Still doing things the Alpine way, huh?

    Car looks good, that intercooler looks as big as the radiator in my living room!
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    Lee Goodall ..got my head together!

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    Ey up mate,

    Good to see you're still chasing those horses! lol
    You've got to have your eye on 400HP.. for pub talk if nothing else.

    How's life treating you? All good hopefully.
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    them scooby and all jap engines for that matter always look confusin to me, i wouldnt know where to start with one of them lol the car has a good spec by the sounds of it

    one question alpine, would a scoob at that spec do an audi with the exact same spec mate, do they spool up quicker than the audis?????? not the most elaborate question but my S4 is running close to 300bhp and someone says that the scoob(STI) will be a little quicker, not having raced any STI's yet i cant find out the outcome, but i heard jap cars are mental lol
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    What's that you say?.. Santa Pod?
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    342bhp at the wheels will be WAY over 400bhp. I think my S4 only gets around 325bhp at the wheels, which equates to 415bhp crank.

    How much has all this cost Alpine? Must have been a fortune!!!
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    everything is sweet my man, i think its over 400 at the crank, BHP was calculated by the mappers laptop it aint been on a roller yet.

    sh1tty old bug eye! they weigh more than a cruise ship! lol

    spools up alot faster than the Audi did. full 16psi @2950 rpm all the way to 6200. power to weight i think the scoob will pull it off (not being bias) the newer scoobs are heavy tho. My classic weighs just a smidge over a ton now. Audi for comfort and poke, scoob for insanity!!

    yeah baby!!

    as said, i aint been on the rollers yet, bhp has been calculated via mapper laptop and road runs etc. will be exsact once on rollers but he said the lappy gives a 20bhp reading either way!

    As for cost.. yeh it aint been cheap tho i have had alot of touches. ECU should be over £1400 but i payed £300!! lol FMIC was £100 off me mate with pipework! i changed the engine myself, all the other bit have been through mates and ebay. (gotta mate who owns a scooby garage in essex!) MOT tomorrow, more money!!!
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    Your car should be a lot of fun,........not classy, but definitely fun :cool:
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    Glad everything's good mate.

    Maybe you should be looking for 500HP at the wheels then.. 400 does sound a bit tame now you mention it! ;)
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    I still think the purple one will scare it.........
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    Definitely when she's had a bit more tweakage :ninja:
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    I ran 12.8 at Santa Pod at the last RWYB. The S4 weighs 1700-1800kg I think.

    If Alpine's Scooby is over 430bhp (crank) and just over 1000kg I would expect to see it crack 10's. The gauntlet is down! :)
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    Maybe we should be setting a date?.. I'll be there for sure.
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    10's??????? Few roadcars achieve that over here.

    And aren't S4's around 1550KG?
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    B5 S4's are around 1500-1550.

    Alpine: What boost pressure are you running and what turbo have you got?

    I was looking for an OE turbo just recently for a mates Volvo T5 that would do about 400hp, we'd settled on a twinscroll TD05 from an Evo, but being twinscroll its not ideal for a 5 pot.
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    From letstorquebhp calculator..

    Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 430

    Weight without Driver (KG) : 1080

    Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 404.54

    0 - 60 (Secs) : 2.98

    0 - 100 (Secs) : 7.67

    60 - 100 (Secs) : 4.69

    Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.55

    Terminal Speed (MPH) : 122.73

    Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.15

    Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 127.08
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    2.98 to 60 lol
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    where did 1080kg come from?

    letstorque says a UK spec '96 impreza is 1235kgs...
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    Why does Letstorque use the 'without driver' weight? Surely it would be more accurate including the driver.

    Plugging in my figures of 1700kg (without driver weight) I get a 1/4 mile drag time of - 12.92

    After checking on the t'interweb i've found an S4 weight of 1680kg, plus my weight of 90kg gives a 1/4 mile drag time of - 12.86... almost bang on the money!

    Although letstorque BHP states 0-60 of 4.68 whereas I actually managed closer to 4.2.

    But still.... Alpine's car is the fastest in the world eva!!!
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    the S4is about 1515KG but with me in it id say its about 1700KG lol
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    Alpine said (above) that his is now just over 1000 KG/1 ton.. so I thought 1080KG would be fair.
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    I would imagine it's so you can make a fair comparison between cars.. as obviously the driver weight is a variable depending on who is driving at the time.
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    I was pulling some legs. You should take those figures with a pinch of salt really.

    Max BHP isn't truly indicative of how fast a car is. You could have two cars with the same peak BHP but massively different torque curves which would produce totally different results. Also, with so many options on these modern cars, the kerb weight is very variable. My Recaros weigh loads more than my standard seats did.

    Alpine - your motor does sound like a beast though. Even when mine was tuned to around 380bhp, a mate of mine had a totally standard Subraru STI estate(supposed to be 270 bhp I think) and I could only just keep up with it up to around 70. With all those bits and pieces, I would expect it to seriously shift. What sort of MPG do you get?
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    True.. but still interesting to see what they come up with lol.
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    2 cars with similar pwoer and weight...comes down to gearing.
    scooby have 6 gears or five?
    car with 5 longer gears will usually be a bit swifter in a 1/4 mile, less changing
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    Ello dude. How's tricks?
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    yeh baby!! lol i wish!

    mine has a jdm WRX box that come with the JDM bottom end, all 5 gears!

    tricks are good mate thanks, how about your self.


    As for the weight, there has been alot of un-needed stuff removed. steel bonnet replaced with ali, ali boot, AC system removed etc. altho i still have seats and carpets (as its still a family car) the sound deadning, plastic runners and littlerally, if i could get away with taking it out i did! Even down to the fuel filler door, was steel, now plastic!! lol every little helps!
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    sorry didnt reply. im running a VF35 @ a safe 16psi. 18 peak!
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