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Turbo upgrade :)

Discussion in 'A4/S4 forum(B5 Chassis)' started by Lee Goodall, Apr 28, 2008.

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    They fit them to the later cars with small port heads and flashable ECUs for the likes of the hammer file and the K04-15 off the shelf setups
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    Hmmmm? I thought the TT injectors were supposed to fit?.. not a problem if not but would be much easier to get hold of.

    Yeah the airbox may fit with some tweakage but I think I'll be going down the custom intake route. I'll investigate when I get the kit to see how much space is available.
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    Aftermarket it is then.. no UK suppliers/importers?
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    If you get a set of TT unit's I will swap you my 280 injectors I bought SH from the US for my old car.
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    That'd be good mate.. I pressume SH will be ok for the TT injectors? Has there been any variation in the TT injectors through the years of production?
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    SH works for me and I have no idea if there has been any change but as long as they are in good working order they should be good to go.
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    Is there any need to upgrade FPR or pump?.. what does the standard max out at?
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    Excellent.. I'm on it as soon as the T28 arrives. Cheers mate.
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    So having my 2000 1.8tqs mapped will only be a generic map? I cant have it 'live' mapped?
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    Yeah you could get a custom/live map and I pressume yours can be done via the diagnostic port too with it being a much later model.

    The generic maps generally push the turbo to a safe limit though so a custom map on a standard/factory fitted turbo wont really be worth it. Custom maps are better for modified setups really.
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    I see, well id like to upgrade the turbo but it does seem a minefield. I just wish there was a 'to do' route, as in:

    You need this turbo, this actuator, and this remap

    Just read so many bits here im even more confused now...
    Ill be having a full milltek and FMIC before anything else is done but from there im lost on where to go and what to buy....
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    My turbo will be up for grabs in a few weeks which will bolt straight up to your existing manifold... With exhaust, FMIC, DV valve, uprated TIP and a custom map you should see 220+ BHP.

    Just pick a tuner for the map that knows a turbo from their A.hole and you'll be sorted.. I'd look to the route of Custom Code or Jabbasport personally.
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    ..all depends on what power you're aiming for really mate?
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    Reliable power. Shame that its such a mission to get to cupra R standard power. Maybe i should have bought one of them instead LOL
    Ive read all youre post but im running a Bailey DV26 so that should be ok as ive used that at 300bhp on a Vauxhall LET.
    Whats the TIP?
    And what will youres be up for?
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    Not sure about the dump valve as our engines use different ways of measuring airflow.. I had an atmospheric DV on mine but it wasn't ideal. A diverter valve will feed the air back into the system but an atmospheric wont.

    The money you'd pay for a Cupra R would def get you to 300hp in an A4 IMO.

    TIP - Turbo Intake Pipe.

    Errrmmm not sure on the price yet.. I'll have a think and let you know.
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    Yeah please do. I was advised that id run into issues with my bailey item but its running fine on my standard engine, and ive kept all the bits i took off just incase....
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    Yeah it's not a power issue.. it's more of a problem with the measured air escaping and the ECU not knowing about it. Could run fine but to be certain I'd use a diverter valve.
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    well if i get running issues ill revert back but for now i like it :)
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    vrummmmmmmmm psssssssssssst vrummmmmmmmmm pssssssssst lol
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    Been a couple of years since ive had a turbo motor so im enjoying the dump for a while LOL
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    Just thought mate if yours is a 180HP A4 then you'll probably only gain 20HP more by using my SP51R anyway over the K03s you already have.
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    I may have to buy a cupra R engine then and make it fit mine LOL
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    Get a K04-15 hybrid (outlaw) as Mark (Byzan A4) is running and you'll see Cupra figures easy.
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    And who retails those?
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    Scroll Products..

    You'll either need to supply a K04-15 for them to work on to make the hybrid or ask them to supply the parts from new. They might even have a second hand unit there if you're lucky.

    Email Sean at Scroll Products.. he knows his shizzle. They made my hybrid K03 and I was very pleased with the service.
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    Click the USA flag at the top mate.
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    Docurley and I went for the Full hybrid he was offering that isn't advertised. It's a Sp51X Outlaw turbo, It's based on a K04-15 but has larger hot and cold side and is machined out to take the new internals as well as having Dual feed bearings fitted and being balanced to a high tolerance.

    Mine at the mo is making 250bhp and 270 ft/lb torque, but we are of the opinion that with a new plashable Me7 ECU she is capable of quite a bit more.

    Drizz if you are at GTi Inters, both Lee and i will be there with our different setups, should be good for comparison on the strip,as its a more real world difference than actual power figures
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    I had a Bailey DV on my B5 1.8T with no issues at all.
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    Will you be there on the saturday gents?
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    ..saying that though my map isn't good so probably wont be a very realistic comparison as I don't dare crank the boost up too high as the fueling goes way out using a bleed valve.

    Although I'm still up for the Q.mile lol.. Next year I'll be set to take the A4 AEB crown :p
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    I'll only be there on the Sunday as I have a wedding to go to on the Sat.
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    Byzan what was the total cost of youre turbo conversion?
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    From start to finish? As i didn't have a turbo engine in my car originaly. Or to put the Hybrid unit on?

    IIRC it was around $650 delivered from Poland, then the map, which i got from Chipped UK as it was my 2nd map from them from a std K03 map, i had the 2nd second bit at a discount still it was £500 ish for mapping .

    That took me several attempts to get it somewhere near but it's close on std 4 BAR FPR and Injectors. I have since added a high flow Exhaust mani( $100) and FMIC (£400 ish) so i want to get the map tweaked to suit, but will wait until i fathom out the Flashable ECU conversion properly so i can get it done once. I understand Custom Code can do it for a shade under £400, though my first preference is to go to Jabba as they seem to know a lot about these ECUs being used in Golf 1.8t Conversions and the like
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    Yeah yeah,lol:gun2::p
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    Is there a particular MAF that is preferable when upgrading from the AEB to the TT MAF?

    I assume it's from the 225HP TT but there are various different Bosch part numbers available.

    Has Docurley purchased a MAF previously? If so which one?
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    S3 or TT225 MAF will do the latter the better I would have thought.
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    I just remembered i have a MAF from one of the newer cars ill include it in the kit just to get you running. But ill have to confirm part no's so i 100% know its the newer MAF.
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    Nice one cheers.

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