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Track Car Content (K04 Inside)

Reesy Oct 16, 2012

  1. Reesy

    Reesy Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    As some of you will know I recently went halves on a track car.

    It's an '02 Seat Leon Cupra and came with a k03 hybrid which had been mapped by Niki at R-tech and made 275bhp.

    Also had:

    Walbro Fuel Pump
    Greddy Turbo timer
    Usual Stage 2 mods
    Tints all round
    5 doors (Because Racecar)
    Decat and proflow backbox
    18" Wheels with 3 pony tyres and 1 uniroyal

    Got it for cheap as it was stuck in 1st gear and had a big dent in the rear quarter panel.

    Got the car back and the issue was fixed via some jiggery pokery and spares from an s3 6 speed box.

    Rear of the car is completely stripped out, need to lift the front seats to get the carpet out the way though. Centre console will be going at some point, and probably so will the A/C.

    Next job was to get the hybrid off the car and go for a more reliable K03s. Hybrid was good fun, spat flames, spun up in the higher gears etc, but for a track car it wasn't the most reliable way and selling it more than halved the cost of the car.

    K03s went on, and as many of you will have seen:

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    http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/a3-s3-forum-8l-chassis/170480-destroyed-turbo.html

    Just before this, the nasty duel exit exhaust which made a vortexy whooshing noise that made the car sound like it was going about 300mph was chopped off, and a slashgrinder cut single pipe was fitted.

    After the k03s issues, a new plan was formed.

    Possibly the cheapest k03/k03s to K04 conversion ever.

    So far the grand total for the k04 conversion sits at £100. And as the car is 50/50 with BENJAMIN from here, it owes me £50.

    The k04 and associated bits were fitted yesterday evening, and the car is up and running..

    Needs an air filter and it's pretty much good to go, but it's going to get a welly cooler and a few pipes need to be bought to go with the few that we have got between us already..

    Car is going to have a stage 1 map on it, and will make between 250 and 260bhp.

    Will get some exterior pics at some point and post them up.

    (I know it's not technically an 8L, but it's similar and no-one looks in the general car chat!)
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2012
  2. Paradox1

    Paradox1 Active Member

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    Looking good mate.should Be a quick car too
     
  3. Westy

    Westy Well-Known Member

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    The car will be rapid once you get it's weight down. Would have been good if you did a before and after on a weigh bridge.
     
  4. Reesy

    Reesy Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    Were going to, but needed to shift the **** out the way and never got round to it.

    It's already really light compared to my lard arse tqs when you are pushing it around..
     
  5. 16Klappe

    16Klappe I <3 Panda's! Supporter

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    The best part of 250kg's lighter than an S3 or TQS as it is without stripping; when you get it on the road you might see some sense in what I have been saying for years.

    With the same power it would be about 60hp/ton better off.

    Good project, I look forwards to seeing it go fast. You getting Niki to map it?
     
  6. Reesy

    Reesy Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    No, it's only getting a stage 1 k04 map. All it needs for now.

    Although it had 10bhp less, in it's full fat form it wasn't as quick as my TQS.

    Also, pulling away quickly with any exuberance is impossible. Also understeers a lot in the wet/damp, and a fair bit in the dry.
     
  7. superkarl

    superkarl MAN OF STEEL

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    power to weight isnt everything.
     
  8. Westy

    Westy Well-Known Member

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    Imagine if you could get 200kgs out of a TQS or S3 :faint:
     
  9. coatesy

    coatesy poking badgers with spoons

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    No your right its all about the girth its always about the girth.....
     
  10. Reesy

    Reesy Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    Exactly, it does account for quite a bit but other factors have to be taken into account.

    No ones really gone the whole hog from what I can remember. To be honest, the 2wd will make it more fun and hopefully it'll only eat 2 tyres instead of 4! Not going into the whole queef diff malarky so it'll be about getting the power down properly.
     
  11. Reesy

    Reesy Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    All mapping will be done by Dan, hoping for flat shift, launch control, flames, torque, economy and max of 260bhp. MIght even see if I can leave it with him so he can get some proper time with it..
     
  12. Westy

    Westy Well-Known Member

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    I really want to go to town on my car at some point in the future just to see how light I can get it. I bet it'll be a good track weapon with the 4WD too.
     
  13. Prawn

    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    this thread is so gay without pictures.

    Props on the ko4 based fwd track car though, far better than the a3 estate!
     
  14. Reesy

    Reesy Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    This has the same about of doors :moa:

    Budget K04 conversion ftw. Hoping that a nice safe 250ish is the way forward, rather then trying to get 240 out of a little k03s.

    Might have a chat to you in the future about getting hold of some sticky tyres, seeing as you have the worlds supply of 17" A048's..

    I don't think I have any pics of the Leon unfortunately.
     
  15. superkarl

    superkarl MAN OF STEEL

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    put a cage in it and i can get you slicks VERY cheap
     
  16. Reesy

    Reesy Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    Is the cage a condition for cheap slicks or just a lack of grammar on your part?
     
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  17. Prawn

    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    it's a requirement at most tracks Chris, most only allow slicks with a full cage, as you're MUCH more likely to flip :p
     
  18. Westy

    Westy Well-Known Member

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    On a non competitive track day I'd like to think the chances of rolling the car are quite slim. On the Nurburgring though.......
     
  19. Reesy

    Reesy Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    Thanks for the offer Karlos, but I think the cost of the cage will take a while to recoup in cheap slicks. Let me know anyway and we might be able to sort something out..

    Wasn't aware of that Prawn, although it makes sense..
     
  20. Jason.s

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    You could say that about 15minute slots at Combe and the guy in the fiat coupe still managed to drive into the tyres and land on the roof. Also I've heard of people at Bedford going straight up the big banks taking off at the top lol. People do some silly stuff regardless of what event they're attending.
     
  21. Prawn

    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    Yes, indeed.

    How topical!
     
  22. Reesy

    Reesy Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    I'm going to get a sticker made up with the protocol for coolant and oil spillages! :p
     
  23. jojo

    jojo Looking for Boost! Staff Member Moderator Team Daytona quattro Audi S3 Audi A6 Audi Avant Owner Group

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    That is your next 'things to do' on your S3 then!
     
  24. Westy

    Westy Well-Known Member

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    Let me get a spare car first ;)
     
  25. Prawn

    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    probably worth noting that the leon is nowhere near as light as the A3,

    standard A3 turbo is around 1220-1240kg depending on spec, where a mk1 LCR is 1380kg, so I'd imagine the LC is 1350+.

    S3's are seemingly anywhere from 1440-1480ish, and the TQ is lighter than the S3, so with full interiors in both, there's probably not a huge deal in it power:weight wise, and the badass st2 ko4 is going to have much more torque and be stronger at the top end than a little CR ko3 hybrid
     
  26. superkarl

    superkarl MAN OF STEEL

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    is the different between A3 to LC just because of 2 extra doors?




    (for the record 4 doors is gahey)
     
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    Reesy Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    Apart from the fact that the Seat is horribly basic and pretty cheap feeling inside..

    I think the added weight is because Seat decided to put about 1000 screws in both the front and back bumper to hold it on. Seems to be about the only area that it has been severely over engineered!
     
  28. jojo

    jojo Looking for Boost! Staff Member Moderator Team Daytona quattro Audi S3 Audi A6 Audi Avant Owner Group

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    Wheelbases the same?
     
  29. Prawn

    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    Yea, same chassis totally JoJo, but both the mk4 golf and the Leon were mich heavier than the a3! Not sure why!
     
  30. Yohan87

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    Probably the extra weight of the indicators they install in VW/Seat cars :lmfao:
     
  31. Reesy

    Reesy Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    Both the golf and the Leon look and feel lardy compared to a3's, I suppose just because they share the same chassis doesn't mean they will weigh the same. Not too fussed really, just going to make it as light as we can. Think we're going to keep the dash though, and despite removing the headlining we still have the grab handles, sun visors and interior light in the front.
     
  32. Westy

    Westy Well-Known Member

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    Ge the swaging tool out on the mofo and remove as much as you can ;)
     
  33. Jason.s

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    Weld up the rear doors...
     
  34. Prawn

    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    This is a very good idea.

    Removing the dash instantly ruins the whole car, and makes it feel like a shed, it's properly **** in there with no dash.

    I still have my interior light, ziptied to the cage, it's SOOOO annoying not having lights inside the car if you use it in the dark ever. Grab handles again a sound idea.

    I had to lose my sun visors for the cage, so a huge sun strip went on instead.
     
  35. crazy88

    crazy88 Loving the anonymity

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    This thread is useless without proper pics of a car. I know nothing of k04's and all that jizz, I just want to see pretty car pics.
     
  36. Reesy

    Reesy Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    It's not a particularly pretty car if I'm honest. It has gangster tints, a sunstrip, a massive dent in the rear 1/4 panel and it's grey, if that helps.
     
  37. Prawn

    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    I've seen it, looks **** :laugh:
     
  38. Reesy

    Reesy Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    Faster then yours :moa:
     
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  39. Prawn

    Prawn My other car is a MINI!!!!

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    I've never understood that argument, perhaps mine doesn't have an engine at the moment, but it's a temporary state, and in that respect, it's no faster than mine RIGHT NOW, because it's probably parked up at Bens unit and not moving :laugh:

    My argument is about as valid. haha
     
  40. Reesy

    Reesy Well-Known Member VCDS Map User

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    Still faster then yours. Can be out on the road in under a minute :racer:
     

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