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Too low for the sump!

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by John-H, Mar 15, 2011.

  1. John-H

    John-H Member

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    I hit a raised manhole in a council roadworks section in Trafford Park today in my S3. The car is bog standard height but that's a little low to start with - it might serve as a warning to what can happen.

    The council have been resurfacing the road and have removed the top surface of tarmac. There was a sign saying "RAMP" but there was no sign saying "raised manholes" - consequently I was expecting the up ramp at the crossroads but not the raised manhole 20 feet before it, which I went over dead centre only seeing it at the last moment because of a car in front, with a left turning car on my left and bollards on my right I could go nowhere - BANG!

    I then bumped up over the ramp at the crossroad as expected with no problem but as I got to the other side the following cloud of oil smoke, which didn't go away as a splashed puddle might have, told a different story!

    Engine smartly turned off I coasted to a halt and getting out I could see the oil slick so pushed it round the corner and waited for recovery.

    To cut a long story short, it's at Awesome GTI: about £50 for an aftermarket sump (the original had a hole I could get two fingers in!), but with oil, filter, gaskets, sealant and checks comes to £227, then there's the dog mount ripped out of the gearbox casting - that's an estimated £200 for alloy welding (luckily the casing is not holed), then there's the cross brace captive nut ripped out of the subframe. They have a second hand sub frame but with fitting and geo that will add another £400 ... Perhaps I can fix that later in a different way but even so ....

    My insurance legal cover say that with no signs saying "raised manholes" and with one clearly high enough to strike a car without being adequately cautioned, ramped or coned off and given that the council were in control of the area so can't claim they didn't know about it - and given that I've taken plenty of pictures and videos of other cars clouting the manhole, then I have a good case.

    I think it's one of life's unfair moments; given that I generally advise people against lowering due to the chance of hitting a speed bump or pot hole. I suppose some may laugh and even I can see the irony - but then again perhaps it may serve as a warning for what may happen!

    The sump is now replaced and the engine runs seemingly as before so hopefully the bearings and turbo are OK. I did turn the engine off perhaps 5 or 10 seconds after the bang when it dawned on me what was going on and I had knocked it into neutral, but the oil pressure warning light does not come on immediately on the 1.8T - the switch operates at 1.4 bar and at idle with hot oil you may only get 1 bar so whether the light comes on or not depends on what the software decides is happening! Give me a live swithch any day! Just waiting on the alloy welding now.

    A rogues gallery:

    Entering roadwork zone...

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    Here's a car turning right (when rush hour had died down a bit)

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    Allowing him to swerve to the left - but what for?

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    The sump planer! This car clunked it...

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    Even the 4x4s were slowing down for it - ok if you could see it in time.

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    I'm not the first to hit it.

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    If you look carefully at this one you can see the leading corner of the cast iron manhole and the lack of adequate ramp before hand.

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    And the resultant oil slick:

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    And this is what it did:

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  3. Dani_B19

    Dani_B19 Audi-sports own special child.

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    **** me, that is just bad bad luck, think i may invest in a reinforced sump now though :/.
     
  4. warrenlord

    warrenlord Member

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    unlucky, make sure the council pay for it, defo wont be going down there for abit. they have been doing the same around my area and i wont even go near it as i know when i see that ramp sign that the floor is dropped down and all the man covers are raised like you said.
     
  5. S3KO4

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    God I feel your pain, you could have done the job yourself! I would sue the council and and take some sort of a proof from Awsome GTI, hopefully they can pay you back or something. hopeyfuly the damage has not affected the engine itself.
     
  6. Oranoco

    Oranoco Well-Known Member

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    No sign for "raised ironworks" that's non compliant with Chapter 8. Send the bill for repairs to your local authority, they'll wriggle and claim they aren't liable but keep being a pain and they should pay up. Had similar happen to the lower crossmember on my old XR2i
     
  7. S3KO4

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    Also try using the Iphone App 'Fill That Hole' they have a website thier special websites which supports people like yourself
     
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