Thanks for the replies - much appreciated! Ya they are pretty rank alright now that I've sobered up today lol. This is my problem...been through this thread so many times and while the bbs are ok I'm not mad about them. Don't like the vw helios at all. The selection over here (Ireland) is not as good as you guys have in the UK. Looking on-line, the shipping costs to Ireland are massive in some cases, as they can only ship by courier. MTM's are No.1 on the list as soon as I can track them down. I dont mind spending the money just want to be sure I'll be 100% happy with what I get.