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the half arsed wheel refurb

Discussion in 'A4/A4 cabriolet/S4 forum(B6 chassis)' started by fourcircle, Mar 20, 2011.

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    They look great on the car mate! You didn't buy a matt lacquer by mistake I don't suppose? I don't know what the Finnish for "Matt" is.....

    Sunshine and everything now ;)
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    apparently neither do I :)
    Yeah it was a glorious 12 degrees here today. You can see the last patches of snow in the background but we're almost free of the white stuff for a while. woohoo! bring on the BBQs!
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    dont think you can get a mat lacquer just how much you put on as to how shiny it will be
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    [Apr 22, 2011]
    I remember a plastokote clear matt lacquer from my halfords days many moons ago (didn't ever use it though)
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    oh right ill have a look next time im there
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    You can definitely get matt lacquer, I couldn't find any when I wanted it for my mirrors typically. Next time I'll just ask Noel lol
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    haha, yeah no problem... I can give you some tips for applying it like pebbledash too.
    17 degrees outside! BBQ!!!
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    Is there a particular rubbing compound you would recommend ? I have a Phantom black A4 Cab with some annoying but not deep scratches down the near side (no fingernal snagging when I run across them) caused by bushes and bits of brambles in the narrow country lanes.....
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    best way to see if you can buff any scratches out is to run a small amount of warter down them if they go when you do this it will buff out ;-) i use G3 regular grade paste compound its what the big guys use lol you can get it from any good car paint shop
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    does it get the swirl marks out mate
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    I've only done bits by hand and it's been very good so far. But I've seen the results on detailingworld when people have used a polisher and it's amazing. of course the G3 is apparently very good, as you said. I'm not sure if the poorboy's sp2 is well liked by the amateurs because it breaks down as you use it or something?
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    seems good had a look on youtube but you do need a polisher to get it to work me thinks im told the clay bars do the job but never used them ether lol g3 is really good stuf you can get it in all kinds of grain from ruf to the one i use or evan a smoth one im thinking is for the swirl marks its used in nearly every body shop
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    clay bar is good to get the **** off the surface of the paint,like hard dust build up. the kind of stuff you don't notice until you've clay bar'd it and run your finger across the glassy surface and go "wow". I'm guessing you use g3 or sp2 to really give the paintwork a going over but you wouldn't want to do it too often. I was advised to use the sp2, then put a layer of carlack polish on and then collinite 476 wax on top. I have the products but haven't done the whole lot until i get my hands on a polisher and also get the bubbling on the front arches sorted out.
    I reckon if there's a good polish and/or wax on there then you'd use the clay bar now and again just to take the **** off without affecting the paint underneath. I used it before on my s2 and loved the effect. funnily enough having kids has seriously affected the amount of time I have for making my car shiny though :)


    Oh yeah, here's a photo of my car this morning with silver mirrors
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    oh right so its a maybe on the clay bar then for me ill have a look at what auto glym do for swirl marks to. your car looks realy clean mate same coulor as mine to ;-)
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    choice of the connoisseur is crystal blue mate ;)
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    i no mate i had some paint made up for mine there is 3 difront shades to it so if you ever need paint make sure they match it right lol
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    that's why my front and rear lower valances are a fraction off, because I had them sprayed in the UK before sending out here. bugger. Best solution will probably be to get the bubbling sorted on the arches and then vinyl wrap it :)
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    yeah when i was getting it made for my rear spolier was a bit touch and go for a bit as they are all so very close lol iv thought about this vinyl wrap not sure what coulors it comes in though do you have a web page or some where you would get it from
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    it doesn't seem to be advertised too openly for general public purchase since it's usually bought trade by the people who apply it. Chris (cfoster with the matt black s4) recommended Hexis, as it has tiny perforations that will let you roll air bubbles out. that said i'm not yet convinced I could do it without making a total arse of it. I think a rough guide would be £300 for bog standard colours or £500 for matt black or something a bit more special.
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    thanks mate i will give that a look :)
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    Cue Simon's next post:

    "Help. I've wrapped my car but now I can't find the door handle".
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    was not thinking of doing the hole car but the lower part is that why you have not done yours mate talking from experience are we lmao
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    haha. wrap the whole thing and cut a hole to see out of. sorted! :)
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    haha no need to have the hole windscreen to see from its way over raited any way lol
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    [Apr 27, 2011]
    I was looking for a humorous image to continue the covered windscreen topic but randomly came across this in google image search.
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    that one is better lol
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    I reckon that picture is borderline legal!

    Yet you're both talking about vinyl wraps :search:
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    hahaha yeah we are but im talking about it in the same coulor as my car just for the lower part so :moa:
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    You're right. she's not wearing a seatbelt. well spotted.

    Ah yes. the choice of the connoisseur is crystal blue. The choice of the attention seeker is matt black. The choice of the lunatic is burnt orange. And the choice of the Scots-Irishman living in Finland who doesn't want to fork out for a full respray and thinks a change might be nice... is possibly gloss black or some kind of deep metallic blue. :)
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    man I hate it when I've left a window open for ages, then type a bit reply, hit send and the browser tells me my session has timed out. so back to typing it again. aghh!

    A couple of years ago one of the RS6 reps developed a crack in the rear rim edge and was leaking air so I bought 2 spares. Recently I discovered that 2 of the wheels on the car now also have small cracks so 3 out of a total of 6 have cracks so I've sold them to a mate who knows someone who does aluminium welding. I'm trying not to cry because I loved their 8.5 inches of raw stance. oof! So I'm on 16" pepperpots temporarily while I sort the Ronals out. I also have a pair of 10mm spacers for the front and 15mm spacers (on the way) for the rear to get back a similar stance.

    So I'm trying a bit of DIY refurbing again, this time on a set of abused S4 ronals. I'm doing it in summer this time and took the tyres off. I've rubbed the wheels down, filled the bits that needed it, sanded, rubbed, filled, sanded.. then added 3 coats of primer and have gone over every mm with 600 grit paper to smooth it all out. I'm about to start painting but am wondering whether I should use 1200 grit paper after I have painted them, before I do the lacquer?
    thoughts?

    Couple of pics of them as they arrived, one mid-sand and one of my spray booth (a wooden packing crate open on one side)
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    I'll talk to you mate, but I didn't flat back between top coat and lacquer.

    I didn't realise the Avus were so tatty! :crying:
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    Ah this thread brings back memories!

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    Also did a nice set of Superleggeras back when I had my Ibiza Cupra;

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    aha! the voice of experience! And did you rub down the paint before applying lacquer?

    James - To be fair that's the worst wheel of the 4. Fingers crossed they look OK when I've finished. They won't be perfect (I'm being realistic) but they definitely can't look worse that when I started :)
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    ?
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    I didn't, the finish of the paint seemed flat enough so I just threw a few coats of lacquer on top (ProXL brand).
    I suppose flatting the paint slightly with 1600grit would increase the depth/shine.
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    thanks mate. I'll see what the finish is like after the paint goes on and make a decision then.

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