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Discussion in 'Detailing' started by sonnyjim, Jun 27, 2009.

  1. sonnyjim
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    [Jun 27, 2009]
    Hi all, before picking up my S4 I had the dealer supaguard the paint work, with a story of 'no need to polish for 3 years'. Had it a month now and it definitely needs polished. My question is, can I now just polish as normal even with the supaguard still on or will it need removed first?

    In my opinion the supaguard was a bit of a waste anyway, could of done a better job on the outside myself. Although carpets are a good idea with kids and a dog I suppose.

    Cheers.

    Sonnyjim
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    10blazin HYPERDRIVE NEEDED

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    [Jun 27, 2009]
    terrible **** i clayed my car and started again use the meguires clay kit its easy to use and will leeve your car like glass really smooth
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    [Jun 27, 2009]
    I had mine Supaguarded, and yes a complete waist of time......
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    [Jun 27, 2009]
    Thanks guys, did a search on supaguard after I left this post. Looks like the stuff is ****. Never clayed a car before, is it a lot of work and does it basically remove any previously applied protection from the paint?

    Cheers

    Sonnyjim.
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    [Jun 28, 2009]
    yeah claying will get it smooth as silk.

    But, do not use turtle wax liquid caly, I know it sounds like an easy option, but it will FU*K your paint.

    I still have an outstanding complaint with them at the mo.

    propper clay and LOADS of lube.
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    [Jun 28, 2009]
    you will scratch/marr the surface of the paint with any clay especially if you press too hard. i always recommend at least one polishing stage after claying to remove any surface marking
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    I thought it was me !!!!....had my S4 2 weeks and also had it Supaguarded at the dealership....I wanted to wax it today, but there are parts of the bodywork where it feels really rough, almost like overspray.
    I am tempted to take it to a proper valet specialist and have it done properly. What a complete waste of money !!
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    Using a clay bar will not completely strip polymer sealants like Supaguard, so it's better to conduct a two stage decontamination process, starting with a tar and glue remover (which will remove all of the sealant plus any bonded organics) followed by a mild clay to nip off any bonded inorganics. It's simply not true that mild clay bars cause marring - yes they do if your method isn't correct, but as long as you keep them soft in use and use plenty of lube it's perfectly possible to clay and not have to machine polish afterwards. More info on decontamination methods here...

    http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/car-care-advice-faq.html#2.1

    Going back to the original question, yes, Supaguard and all other dealership applied treatments are a complete waste of time and money, and simply give the dealer more profit per sale as opposed to any significant long term user benefit. Much better to buy yourself a comprehensive car care kit and do the work yourself - it's not difficult to prepare a new car (unless the dealer has knackered the paint with a lazy pre-handover wash).

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    [Jul 9, 2009]
    Looks like we all live and learn, looked good when picking it up - or maybe it was just a hell of a lot cleaner than the one I dropped off!

    Cheers
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