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Strut Braces & 4motions

Discussion in 'A3/S3 Forum (8L Chassis)' started by Yohan87, Oct 30, 2012.

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    I have a Bora 4motion with the following handling upgrades: -

    H&R V1 Twin Tube Coilovers
    S3 Cast Wishbones
    Every bush replaced with Superpro/Powerflex bushes
    R32 Front ARB
    Neuspeed Rear ARB
    1x Pair of Forge Adjustable Tie Arms (Upper)

    I think the car handles very well, it sits very flat round corners and is also surprisingly comfortable considering the modifications.

    I know the S3 8L comes with a lower strut brace as standard but the Bora 4motion does not.

    Would front (upper/lower) or rear strut braces contribute anything to this setup? The car is used as a daily but I would like to attend the odd track day when I get the time.
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    The upper strut would help but the lower one doesn't really do anything, yes you could make a lower strut brace which i did and couldn't really tell but as soon as i fitted some solid sub frame bushes then you could feel the front end stiffen up and make the steering a little sharper

    034 Motorsport Audi 8L/VW MK4 front soild subframe bushings
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    Why you say that mate?
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    Your sub frame is like a strut brace, just fit the solid mounts in the link above and all will be good

    A strut brace is meant to brace the struts at the top, there is now way you can fit one to the rear of the S3
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    I fitted s3 front upper and lower to my a3 quattro,it did seem a bit tighter and due to being vag parts they were quite cheap too.
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    as andrew said, those braces dont brace anything lol.
    i think on a modern car there is V little to be had by strut braces, our cars are well built enough not to have masses of flex
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    Solid subframe bushes for the win

    The standard S3 lower brace can be bent by hand so if i can do that then its not much good under the car
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    Oki doki, ive already got the solid frame bushes fitted, love them, fitted them a while ago.
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    So...

    Solid subframe bushes = Yes
    Strut braces = money that could be spent on solid subframe bushes (although upper front might be worthwhile)
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    Depends on what plane it's meant to act as a brace: tension or compression? if it's tension you could theoretically use a steel cable which would be very flexible in every way except under tension.

    But is was taken off later models/not put on all models and is extra weight. Who know's whether it's worth it.
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    Bottom of the subframe I think.
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