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    Do you leave your electrical items on standby or flick them off by a switch or at the mains?

    I've always put my TV on stanby mode, that's what they made the function for right? The missus keeps flicking it off at the switch, so no red LED showing. She claims it uses up electric on standby mode.... :wtf: .... ok, it uses some electricity, and according to adverts, I'm producing more CO2 into the atmosphere, but it's annoying! :wacko:
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    Or even better, superglue her to the bed or cooker.
    (I'd probably opt for the bed though, as you can always order takeaway. Whereas ordering a prossie would probably be frowned upon.)
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    Ha, not in my house it wouldn't!! lol. Well I speak for myself anyway :eyebrows:
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    Anything electrical produces heat, which can cause a fire and burn your house down.

    Turning stuff off when you are not using it is a much smaller price to pay :yes:


    Sidibear's public informaiton post for the day :lmfao:
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    I'd go with that!

    Fire + House = Pain in arse.

    To say the VERY least. Still you can always claim on the house insurance for your Picassos, your collection of classic cars, that 72" LCD TV you had.......:undwech:
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    i am a nightmare for turning things off ! everything gets turned off in our house apart form sky !
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    Meh, i just press the big button on the front of the telly. I haven't yet got so lazy that I can't be bothered (plus the huge electricity bill that came though motivates me!)
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    Following seeing a house burn down the the ground down our street a few years ago (caused by TV left on standby) all my stuff gets switched off at the wall :)
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    My mates a fireman and always banging on about how important it is to unplug and switch off at the mains,:blahblah1: thats why i killed him!
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    I use bye bye standby switches/plugs.

    You plug the bye bye standby adapter in then plug your electrical device into that and switch the switch on your socket on.

    You leave this on at all times and then simply press the on button on the remote and will turn the electrical device on!, and then simply press agin to turn off, this eliminates standby and gives you remote contol of your sockets.

    I simple walk into my living room and turn on my tv/lamp/xbox etc with one remote.

    I have them all over my house as i turn everything off (except my sky box)

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bye-Standby...r_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=kitchen&qid=1260379810&sr=8-1
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    Some mixed opinions on this then, maybe I shall let the woman continue to save me a few quid per quarter then. Things like my cable router/modems are on 24/7, cable machine, 2 TV's, Nintendo Wii and the microwave are constantly on standby, maybe I should flick everything off when not in use then....
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    I don't know how TV's work, but I'm sure I've read somewhere that a TV on standby uses 90% of the power it would use if it was turned on. It also means the components are live all the time which could 'theoretically' shorten their lifespan.

    Don't be so lazy Jo ;)
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    Correct.

    With your typical LCD TV the power switch is pretty much nothing more than a standby switch. So long as the TV is connected to live mains then it will be drawing current.
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    Everything goes off in our house, except the phone, router and sky box, everything is off by the mains, just out of habit really...
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    Almost invariably true for CRT sets...

    ...Not quite as true with LCD/Plasma - particularly newer ones. Yes, early LCD/Plasma sets were still pretty bad, and kept everything hot for quick start up. Panasonic were particularly grim for it. The main type of measurement gadgets we use for LCD/Plasma sets uses either a little induction coil in a pick-up to be sited somewhere near a transformer or backlight driver, or a 'power detector' which is basically an ammeter and a relay to detect when the set is in use. Some earlier Panasonics were a real pain in the arse to get a 'TV Off' from. Luckily they were also extremely well shielded too, so when using a pick-up, could be equally difficult to get a 'TV On' from.

    However, newer LCD/Plasma sets now have all kinds of tree-hugging wizardry in them to reduce power consumption. They're much more efficient when in use, and there's yet more bleeding-edge high-tech electronics involved in reducing consumption when in standby (read a relay between the standby switch / IR receiver and everything else).

    If for example, you've got a tasty Sony/Samsung (in fact most of the big names) from a current or very recently-retired product-line, it probably isn't using all that much when on standby.

    A lot of the most up to date tellies might (when left in standby) use less than the Sky box you're more likely to leave turned on. In the Sky box you've got all the obvious electronics inside, plus a HDD if it's a Sky+(/HD) box; and they send 13V or 18V up to the LNB (the sitcky-outy bit on the dish) to switch modes for reception of either horizontally or vertically polarised signals. That's part of the reason they rolled-out that pesky Auto Standby feature - but it still doesn't go completely dead - you can still blow up an LNB by being sloppy connecting/disconnecting the cables when the box is in standby.

    Regards,

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    I have a 52" Samsung LE52A656 and it uses the following:-

    Normal operation - draws 290 watts
    Standby < Less than 1 Watt
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    Indeed, backing up all what I said above - and upon closer inspection - what you said too I guess...

    ...It was the "Correct." bit that threw me (and there was a big "aaaaaaaaaah I see now" a couple of seconds ago) - as quattrojames was suggesting that a TV generally uses 90% of the power it would use in operation while in standby.

    As your figures, and all my waffle says - not so these days.

    290 watts in normal operation isn't to be sniffed at though - but then I guess 52" requires some pretty heavy backlighting.

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    That was indeed what I meant, is it true then?

    I heard it years ago when TV's were as deep as they were high!
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    In short... It was, when TVs were as deep as they were high ;) It's false for the vast majority of (decent) TVs on Comet's shelves at the moment...

    Cheers,

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    Off at the mains 0 Watts :moa:
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    OK smarty pants...

    For that <1 watt saving, you have to walk over to the switch, and while it's always nice to burn a calorie or two as well as saving electricity... You're wearing out the switchgear, the patch of floor on your route to it, and the soles of your socks/slippers/shoes - all of which will need to be replaced at some point, probably by products made in factories which consume vast amounts of energy, and are less than carbon neutral!

    See... Standby saves the planet. :moa:

    (ClarksonLogic used under license)

    On similar lines, it always amuses me that Sky consider themselves carbon neutral now - they offset all carbon produced by their premises/vans (probably partly why they outsource lots to FirstLine Digital and the likes now!) and things like that - but they seem to have forgotten the immensely carbon-heavy process of manufacturing a rocket, and fuelling it to space in order to put the satellite up there. At least that's solar-powered I suppose!

    Cheers,

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    too much of a balls ache to switch everything off........sorry tree huggers

    anyway global warming is a myth, polar ice caps melting, my arse
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    Have just watched an old episode of brucy parrys amazon, poor tribesmen threatened with loosing there homes from deforestation due to the power hungry west, then flicked over to BBC and hot planet was on showing the miserable effects of global warming

    Guilt has now forced me to switch telly off at the wall

    Ooh the irony
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    And the paradox... Chicken or egg? If you hadn't switched the telly on, you'd not have seen the programmes which made you aware of the planet's plight, leading you to turn it off. So you'd have left it on... :think:
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    Right, I'm on a standby mission tonight, everything off, apart from the XMAS tree lights... :)
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    ??????!!!!!!


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    I only wish I have a body like that! LOL
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    I usually power everything off completely except the phone, fridge, freezer and microwave. It's just a habit.
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    I can't comment on the manufacture of the rocket itself but the propellent is usually Hydrogen Peroxide, which produces an exhaust gas of steam and oxygen.

    Global warming is a myth anyway, designed just so they can tax you for it.
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    Most of my stuff is on standby, Pc is on 24/7.
    Your also more likly to have stuff failing from switching it off than leaving it on. Thermal shock shortens more electronics life span than leaving it on 24/7.


    As for global warming Im just waiting for the fresh air tax next
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    I also leave stuff on standby tbh, going round & turning everything of at night then back on in morning is a ball breaker overall, call it laziness but hey.

    My samsung led is 0.1 watts in standby, also uses alot less power while in use, so happy to leave that as is given uses sweet fa overall when not used.
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    I will happily turn stuff off at the wall when remotes are designed to switch them back on.
    Until then the whole house remains on standby.
    In fact Ive been thinking about a remote start for the car. All this mains switching and key turning has got me worn out....:lazy:
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